International Full Size Jeep Association
Home Forums Reader's Rigs Tech Library Trail Stories FSJ-List
International Full Size Jeep Association  

Go Back   International Full Size Jeep Association > Tire Kickin' > General FSJ Tech

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #21  
Old 07-09-2012, 02:10 PM
cma's Avatar
cma cma is offline
Gear Head
 
Join Date: Jan 26, 2012
Location: Austria
Posts: 748
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ristow
at the 10-12 second mark,and the 24-25 second mark on you video i see what looks like spark arcing at the rear cylinders. that will make a sharp ticking as well. check it out.

sure?????? i think you see the smoke from the leaking valve gasket
the cables looking like new, even the sparks, and also the distributor.
i knew the sound of spark arcing, but this one sounds mor metallic
will check again the spark nut, maybe the are to soft on the thread.
__________________
Markus!

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. - Mike Tyson

Seize the night! If you have time, you are rich!

Cherokee Chief Laredo, 360 cui, selec trac, black, 12/1982
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-09-2012, 02:27 PM
Ristow Ristow is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2006
Location: The Great Googley Moogley Midwest.
Posts: 13,777
no,it aint' smoke. watch the video markus,i can actually see sparks jumping at the 10-14 seconds mark. at the rear cylinder. i see the lighting shadows of the same on the other side later. i can also here it is misfiring from the arcing.


start it up at night and look under the hood.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hankrod
Ristows right.................again,


It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-09-2012, 02:31 PM
Ristow Ristow is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2006
Location: The Great Googley Moogley Midwest.
Posts: 13,777
watch the upper right of the screen during of seconds 10-11 on your video.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hankrod
Ristows right.................again,


It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-09-2012, 02:54 PM
cma's Avatar
cma cma is offline
Gear Head
 
Join Date: Jan 26, 2012
Location: Austria
Posts: 748
Ristow: you are right! i cannot idle the Jeep actual, it is after 10:00 pm, but: i checked the sparkplug before the last cylinder, and i could cryyyyyyyyyy, the threadcap on the plug is loosley and the sparkplug is not fitted well in the cylinderhead!!!!

this could be too the explanation why the engine is running rough / hard, similar if there are only 7 or 5 cylinders are working

tomorrow the first is to fix this and check again! (maybe before i drive to work)

on this way i want to say in advance thanks for this perfect analyse!!!!!

god let it be this fu..ing spark plug.

concerning the old oil: it was an Mobil 1 Filter mounted, and i think anybody filled in some additives to do something good for the engine.......let me trie to shoot a pic of the oil.
__________________
Markus!

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. - Mike Tyson

Seize the night! If you have time, you are rich!

Cherokee Chief Laredo, 360 cui, selec trac, black, 12/1982

Last edited by cma : 07-09-2012 at 02:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-09-2012, 03:54 PM
Ristow Ristow is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2006
Location: The Great Googley Moogley Midwest.
Posts: 13,777
now go look at seconds 29-30,looking at cylinders 6 and 8. you will see flashes of light around the plugs,indicating sparks jumping there too.

the crappy oil COULD be a cam going bad. not the end of the world. throw a new cam/lifters in,like the performer,and a timing set. can be done in the car.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hankrod
Ristows right.................again,


It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 07-10-2012, 01:48 PM
cma's Avatar
cma cma is offline
Gear Head
 
Join Date: Jan 26, 2012
Location: Austria
Posts: 748
have retighten the spark plugs caps. all sparks too.
the cables are all nearby new, thinking the last owner changed them all.
the cable into the ignition coil was also not completly on the ground of the coil.

now the noise is a little bit better but still there. my feeling is that the noise is now more like "steel", and it sounds like the source is on the right side (in front of the Jeep).

will do a new video.

now it`s time for step 2: put away the valvehousing. for what do i have to look when its open?

How sounds a "good" 360 engine? does anybode have a video?
__________________
Markus!

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. - Mike Tyson

Seize the night! If you have time, you are rich!

Cherokee Chief Laredo, 360 cui, selec trac, black, 12/1982
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 07-10-2012, 03:17 PM
WHSII's Avatar
WHSII WHSII is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Feb 06, 2010
Location: Frankfort, KY
Posts: 965
Take a wooden broom handle, place one end where you think the noise is coming from, and put your ear next to the other end.

It will act as a stethoscope. You can move it around the engine, alternator, water pump, valve covers, etc and somewhat locate the noise.

I know it sounds crazy, but it does work!
__________________
WH
Dad's J10, 1980 J10 Jeep Honcho,
Sport Side
Link to build pictures
https://picasaweb.google.com/113072766039246994279/JeepJ10Honcho

1980 J10 Honcho, in restoration
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 07-10-2012, 04:58 PM
Ristow Ristow is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2006
Location: The Great Googley Moogley Midwest.
Posts: 13,777
the arcing in that video warrants new wires and plugs.

is it still missing? if it is you 're still arcing.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hankrod
Ristows right.................again,


It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Windshield wiper chatter... at my wit's end iroc86 General FSJ Tech 14 02-15-2012 02:08 PM
fram shorty oil filter? lifter chatter? 3rdelement General FSJ Tech 13 11-11-2010 04:55 PM
Reverse clutch Chatter tazzerzz General FSJ Tech 1 08-21-2010 06:21 PM
360 rocker arm chatter 4x4fEvEr General FSJ Tech 7 10-20-2005 10:54 PM
Windshield wiper chatter? It's annoying! Treadted2 General FSJ Tech 11 11-11-2000 05:13 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
corner corner