International Full Size Jeep Association
Home Forums Reader's Rigs Tech Library Trail Stories FSJ-List
International Full Size Jeep Association  

Go Back   International Full Size Jeep Association > Tire Kickin' > General FSJ Tech

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-08-2006, 06:14 PM
donwag's Avatar
donwag donwag is offline
Grease Monkey
 
Join Date: Dec 07, 2003
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 379
727 Auto Tranny Front Seal

How is this done? I have searched the tech library and it is not clear. Can you replace the front seal without removing the oil pump?

I have the engine out and I have seen several postings suggesting one should replace the front seal. The TSM says to remove the oil pump with two slide hammers, then you have to deal with adjusting bands, o-rings and gaskets. Sounds like I might as well rebuild the tranny. Am I reading too much into this?

Can I just pull off the torque converter and remove/replace the seal?
__________________
Don
82 Cherokee
89 Grand Wagoneer
84 CJ7
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-08-2006, 06:37 PM
bigun's Avatar
bigun bigun is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 10, 2003
Location: Back in Mountainair NM
Posts: 19,822
I don't know about 727s but I know with ford c-4s all you do pull the tranny pop out the tork converter pull the old seal out then put in the new one. The fun part is getting something to fit down over the shaft that will alllow you to drive the seal in straight.
__________________
charlie
KB0HXA
"Crom" 76/75 Cherokee/J20 Hybred,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gambler68
congrats...that's the first post on here I have absolutely no effing clue how to comment on.


How you behave toward cats here below determines your status in Heaven.
Robert A. Heinlein
The birth of CROM is recorded here
http://www.alaska4x4network.com/showthread.php?t=7778
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-08-2006, 06:45 PM
J10Joe's Avatar
J10Joe J10Joe is offline
Bleedin' Gasoline
 
Join Date: Oct 06, 2005
Location: UPper Michigan
Posts: 1,699
geez Don, idunno. I have always heard" do the seal while it's out" too, but have never had the pleasure. Good luck.
__________________
1985 J-10 LWB
258/727/NP208
4" lift, TFI, MC 2100

1988 J20-one of the last ones
8400 GVRW
360/727/208
TFI, Rustolium (brushed)
Fisher/Meyers plow truck
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-08-2006, 07:25 PM
J10Joe's Avatar
J10Joe J10Joe is offline
Bleedin' Gasoline
 
Join Date: Oct 06, 2005
Location: UPper Michigan
Posts: 1,699
maybe this will help you, or some one else here, but this is what you should see when the TC comes off



hope this helps Don.
__________________
1985 J-10 LWB
258/727/NP208
4" lift, TFI, MC 2100

1988 J20-one of the last ones
8400 GVRW
360/727/208
TFI, Rustolium (brushed)
Fisher/Meyers plow truck
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-08-2006, 07:29 PM
Ristow Ristow is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2006
Location: The Great Googley Moogley Midwest.
Posts: 13,771
yep,there's the seal.

if it 'aint leakin' i'd leave it alone.

that'd be a non-lock up you have there joe.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hankrod
Ristows right.................again,


It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-08-2006, 07:31 PM
J10Joe's Avatar
J10Joe J10Joe is offline
Bleedin' Gasoline
 
Join Date: Oct 06, 2005
Location: UPper Michigan
Posts: 1,699
stock out of my old 80 with 3.31's, thanks dad!
__________________
1985 J-10 LWB
258/727/NP208
4" lift, TFI, MC 2100

1988 J20-one of the last ones
8400 GVRW
360/727/208
TFI, Rustolium (brushed)
Fisher/Meyers plow truck
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-08-2006, 07:31 PM
Crazy_Jeepman's Avatar
Crazy_Jeepman Crazy_Jeepman is offline
Super Moderator
Sloppy Shifter
 
Join Date: Jan 16, 2001
Location: Norway Michigan
Posts: 16,007
I have never had to pull the pump out to change a front seal. Pop it out pop it in
__________________
Daily Driver 2008 Wrangler Sahara
Going, Gone, or Thinking Fishing
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-08-2006, 07:32 PM
donwag's Avatar
donwag donwag is offline
Grease Monkey
 
Join Date: Dec 07, 2003
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 379
Problem is I do have a small leak. Although not as bad as the pic above. I can see the seal. Can you remove/replace without removing the oil pump?
__________________
Don
82 Cherokee
89 Grand Wagoneer
84 CJ7
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
corner corner