Borg Warner 1305 / 1339 QuadraTrac Transfer Case

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  • MadMax78
    258 I6
    • May 26, 2010
    • 289

    Borg Warner 1305 / 1339 QuadraTrac Transfer Case

    Is the QT obsolete (now that they are no longer making the drive chain or the emergency drive vacum shifter)? I have one in the jeep with low range and one in the garage with low range. Just curious if I will have to look at swapping transfer cases in the future due to lack of parts for the QT.
    MadMax78
    78 Cherokee Chief, Wide Track, 360, TH400, Quadra Trac, SOA, 35" BFG KM2, Edelbrock Carb & Intake
  • tgreese
    • May 29, 2003
    • 11682

    #2
    Obsolescence comes gradually. For some people, that are willing to put aside good parts or don't drive enough to wear out the parts they have or have the resources to make the parts they need, such things are never obsolete.

    You'll have to decide what you are willing to accept in terms of parts and service. There's no direct replacement for the BW13xx, so any replacement with a different case will require time, effort and money.
    Tim Reese
    Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
    Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
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    • fulsizjeep
      Señor Jackhead
      • Aug 21, 2002
      • 22496

      #3
      Yep, support is tapering off. Get at least one spare chain and seal kit to keep you going for a while. If you need a chain now, buy 2.
      Flint
      Ran when parked.
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      88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
      76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
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      • mdill
        Gone. Not Forgotten.
        • Nov 22, 2000
        • 7076

        #4
        Stock up on parts, or swap it out, whichever, I personally went the swap route, 241C with a couple special parts, and some bench time to rebuild the tranny and swap tail shafts, it was a bolt in deal into the truck. (i.e. I can swap back and forth between a Th-400 Q-trak, setup and this setup using the same stock flex-plate/mounts, in the same time it would take to R&R a stock unit .. (Drive lines have to be swapped also)

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        • wiley-moeracing
          350 Buick
          • Feb 15, 2010
          • 1430

          #5
          just curious but how do you supply lube with the case upside down? I thought they had an internal oil pump on those? Thanks Tim

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          • grand_wag_85
            Murphy's Law Poster Child
            • Dec 03, 2003
            • 10719

            #6
            Originally posted by wiley-moeracing
            just curious but how do you supply lube with the case upside down? I thought they had an internal oil pump on those? Thanks Tim
            No internal oil pump on the QT. There are several plugs similar to the ones in the picture above. As the chain rotates thru the oil it will send the lube to the other parts of the case. Don't forget to fill the low range reduction unit as well.
            You know it's bad when your car's on the EPA's 10 most wanted list!

            '82 J10
            '88 GW
            '77 J10 Golden Eagle 401


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            • grand_wag_85
              Murphy's Law Poster Child
              • Dec 03, 2003
              • 10719

              #7
              Originally posted by MadMax78
              Is the QT obsolete (now that they are no longer making the drive chain or the emergency drive vacum shifter)? I have one in the jeep with low range and one in the garage with low range. Just curious if I will have to look at swapping transfer cases in the future due to lack of parts for the QT.
              IMO, a properly working and maintained QT on a stock or mildly modified FSJ is a force to be reconned(SP?) with. If you ever get the chance to get a spare transfer case from a junker that's a good thing to hang onto just in case
              You know it's bad when your car's on the EPA's 10 most wanted list!

              '82 J10
              '88 GW
              '77 J10 Golden Eagle 401


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              • mdill
                Gone. Not Forgotten.
                • Nov 22, 2000
                • 7076

                #8
                If you are refering to the 241C it is not upside down, tilted a few degrees, but not more than ~7-> 10 degrees from how GM mounted them.

                Originally posted by wiley-moeracing
                just curious but how do you supply lube with the case upside down? I thought they had an internal oil pump on those? Thanks Tim
                Last edited by mdill; 08-02-2011, 08:25 PM.
                -----------------------------------------
                Home of ADHD project list

                1977 J-10 Honcho 360-T15-D20
                1977 Cherokee WT 360-Th400-NP241 true-trac(s)
                1979 Cherokee 4 Door 258-T-18-D20
                1981 Cherokee Chief WT 360-727-NP208
                1972 K20 Suburban 350 SM465 205
                And the other stuff that gets driven
                ----------------------------------------

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                • wiley-moeracing
                  350 Buick
                  • Feb 15, 2010
                  • 1430

                  #9
                  got you I was thinking jeeps 241 which has d.s front output. what year is that out of and what about the adapter? just in case my stash of q.t. chains runs out. thanks tim

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                  • jaber
                    Dragin Az
                    • Oct 17, 2003
                    • 8104

                    #10
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                    Jeff

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                    • MadMax78
                      258 I6
                      • May 26, 2010
                      • 289

                      #11
                      I would like to keep the stock drivetrain. That's why I got another QT with low range. Looks like I'll be stocking up on parts and running it. The Qt worked great this past winter in the freak snow storm we had hear in N AL.
                      MadMax78
                      78 Cherokee Chief, Wide Track, 360, TH400, Quadra Trac, SOA, 35" BFG KM2, Edelbrock Carb & Intake

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