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  • BIGYELLOW78J10
    304 AMC
    • Jul 18, 2000
    • 1517
    #1

    Frame Rail Width. Riverbeast!!!!

    Hey
    I scored an awesome pushbar off a 70/80's Suburban the other day, and I was wondering what sort of trouble I will get into trying to put it on my 78 J-10. What is the frame width on the Suburban? I doubt the jeep god will smile upon me enough to make it similar to my jeep, which incidently, if anyone knows the outer framerail to outer frame rail width I would appreciate it. My J-10 is currently with my parents, as my mother was driving it last week. Thnaks a lot for any help.

    Daniel Toon

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    78 J-10 Rumblin Wreck
    2v 360 V-8
    Stock down to the rust
    Highway speed in about an Hour
    78 J-10 Rumblin Wreck 2v 360 V-8 Qtrac TH400 Stock down to the rust Highway speed in about an Hour
    85 J-20 4v 360 V-8 Transplant w/ 30k Fresh Rebuilt 727 and a working 208!!! A/C might even work one day!
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  • jeepbob
    Jeep Idiot
    • Jan 16, 2001
    • 2513
    #2
    according to the FSM 35.38" on the j truck

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    65 wag. 360/edelbrock rb4/t400/20 t-case/4:10 d27/d44 tracloc/onboard air/onboard 110v power(no inverter)/1999 Lincoln t.c.leather buckets/taurus ctr console/winch/33x12.50/tunes/water proof door pads
    soon to have new motor/d44frt/d60r(4:10)welded diff/custom bumpers
    see ya in da mud

    [This message has been edited by jeepbob (edited January 21, 2001).]
    65 wag. with a bunch of stuff done and more happening.<br /><br />\"If the local junkyard calls you for Jeep parts, you might be a redneck\".... and yes they do!

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    • River Beast
      approaching Ristows' level of B.S
      • Apr 18, 2000
      • 11642
      #3
      I'll get back to ya.... it was dark outside this morning before I went to work....


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      Todd
      78 Wagoneer, "River Beast"
      360/TH400/QT
      Dana 44's locked w/ 4.89's
      39.50x15x15 Super Swamper TSL's
      7" SOA in front-7" Rear Shackle Inversion Mods
      4" Skyjacker Softride
      3" Trailmaster Bodylift
      My FSJ site: http://www.geocities.com/spazz4life
      My E-mail: [email protected]
      "If you can't stop...SMILE as you go under!"

      '93 3/4 ton 4x4 Suburban...a.k.a. "FSJ Hauler"
      Todd
      www.ttsfabworks.com

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      • bigjeepguy
        232 I6
        • Aug 04, 2000
        • 76
        #4
        On my 73, it is a little under 35.5 inches.
        Jonathan landon<BR>1973 J-4000 3602v ,TH-400<BR>Dana20,Dana 44\'s

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        • Gladi8r
          304 AMC
          • Jun 20, 2000
          • 1733
          #5
          Sounds to me like 'BURB' brushguards will fit a FSJ !!

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          DON

          1988 GW mostly stock, &lt;---Wifey's truck (won't let me "fix it up")

          1971 J-4000,Rhino Grille(to be installed)
          360 CID 8.5/1 ratio 2v, 245 HP, 365 ft/lb
          T-18A, Dana 20, PTO, DANA 44 (Front/Rear)
          Soon to be torn down for Resto
          71 Gladiator Pics

          78 GW (parts truck)
          360 4v Th400
          Dana 44 F/R
          Home Page
          http://www.j-trucks.freeservers.com/

          78 Wagoneer Pics
          DON <br /><a href=\"http://www.Gladi8r.com\" target=\"_blank\"><b>Website</b></a><br /><br />1988 GW 360<br />Edelbrock Intake & 1406<br />TF727/Dana 300<br /><br />1971 J-4500,Rhino Grille<br />A work in progress <br />Soon to be:<br />500 Caddy |Th400 | 205<br />DANA 44/60 (3:73)<br /><br /><b>\"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little<br />temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.\" </b> Ben Franklin

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          • BIGYELLOW78J10
            304 AMC
            • Jul 18, 2000
            • 1517
            #6
            Well, tonight I finally got the chance to check out the Bumper/pushbar/100lb pile o' metal. It measures 28.5" from outer edge of the mounting brackets. So I am headed to the drawing board as to how to mount it up. There is 7" of differece between the overall width outside to outside of the Jeep(thanks guys) and the mounts on the bar. I'm guessing 2" of width for the rail themselves. So that leaves 3". I'd have to grind the mounts off just to move them in 3". what should I do? Should I have some extra steel welded in beside the existing and bolt through it all? Or should I grind the mounts off and go from there. I'd love to keep my 3 piece bumper on the truck, but would that require cuttig through the bumper? Argh! such decisions. Thanks for you help. I'll try to get some pictures up soon! It is awesome.

            Daniel Toon

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            78 J-10 Rumblin Wreck
            2v 360 V-8
            Stock down to the rust
            Highway speed in about an Hour
            78 J-10 Rumblin Wreck 2v 360 V-8 Qtrac TH400 Stock down to the rust Highway speed in about an Hour
            85 J-20 4v 360 V-8 Transplant w/ 30k Fresh Rebuilt 727 and a working 208!!! A/C might even work one day!

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            • Gladi8r
              304 AMC
              • Jun 20, 2000
              • 1733
              #7
              Will it work if you use some steel tubing between them??? Maybe 2" X 3" tubing???

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              DON

              1988 GW mostly stock, &lt;---Wifey's truck (won't let me "fix it up")

              1971 J-4000,Rhino Grille(to be installed)
              360 CID 8.5/1 ratio 2v, 245 HP, 365 ft/lb
              T-18A, Dana 20, PTO, DANA 44 (Front/Rear)
              Soon to be torn down for Resto
              71 Gladiator Pics

              78 GW (parts truck)
              360 4v Th400
              Dana 44 F/R
              Home Page
              http://www.j-trucks.freeservers.com/

              78 Wagoneer Pics
              DON <br /><a href=\"http://www.Gladi8r.com\" target=\"_blank\"><b>Website</b></a><br /><br />1988 GW 360<br />Edelbrock Intake & 1406<br />TF727/Dana 300<br /><br />1971 J-4500,Rhino Grille<br />A work in progress <br />Soon to be:<br />500 Caddy |Th400 | 205<br />DANA 44/60 (3:73)<br /><br /><b>\"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little<br />temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.\" </b> Ben Franklin

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              • ibnfe
                258 I6
                • Jan 26, 2001
                • 433
                #8
                For those searching for the "brush guard/100# pile of metal". I scored one off of a '91 full size Dodge truck. Fits like a champ on my '85 Grand Wag. I can't use the same mount holes, of course, but being able to use a drill is a prerequisite for an FSJ. Also, Killer 32 Fabrications makes custom bumpers, brush guards for the FSJ. If any of this is already common knowledge, I apologize. Still pretty new.

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                If my Jeep can't get me where I want to go the way it sits, then I need to modify it some more. After all, Jeeps owners can do anything!
                Jeep owners can do anything! \'85 GW, not stock anymore!

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                • BIGYELLOW78J10
                  304 AMC
                  • Jul 18, 2000
                  • 1517
                  #9
                  So now I have dilemma. The distance between the mounting plates on the pushbar-28.5. Distance innner rail to inner rail on my rig, 29.5 inches. Maybe I should make spacers out of 1/2" steel plate and run a plate of steel over the top? Or will this compromise strength. I need guidance by some welders. Thanks,

                  Daniel

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                  78 J-10 Rumblin Wreck
                  2v 360 V-8
                  Stock down to the rust
                  Highway speed in about an Hour
                  78 J-10 Rumblin Wreck 2v 360 V-8 Qtrac TH400 Stock down to the rust Highway speed in about an Hour
                  85 J-20 4v 360 V-8 Transplant w/ 30k Fresh Rebuilt 727 and a working 208!!! A/C might even work one day!

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                  • River Beast
                    approaching Ristows' level of B.S
                    • Apr 18, 2000
                    • 11642
                    #10
                    Sorry I took soo long... I've been busy with night school and my three boys are in soccer as well....

                    My frame is 37.5" wide in the back and 34.5" in the front (outside dimensions)

                    Frank Almaas has a GREAT bumper bracket he fabbed on his site http://www.fullsizejeep.com/

                    download his drawings... it will give you great insight on new mounting brakcets....I will be using the drawings myself...someday...


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                    Todd
                    78 Wagoneer, "River Beast"
                    360/TH400/QT (maybe changin' QT soon to a Dana 18/20)
                    Dana 44's locked w/ 4.89's
                    39.50x15x15 Super Swamper TSL's on 15x12 Eagle 589's
                    7" SOA in front-7" Rear Shackle Inversion Mods
                    4" Skyjacker Softride
                    3" Trailmaster Bodylift
                    My FSJ site: http://www.geocities.com/spazz4life
                    My E-mail: [email protected]
                    "If you can't stop...SMILE as you go under!"

                    '93 3/4 ton 4x4 Suburban...a.k.a. "FSJ Hauler"
                    Todd
                    www.ttsfabworks.com

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