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  • trail mule
    232 I6
    • Aug 29, 2007
    • 124

    Which Header?

    What Header are you using? Do you like it if not what would you recomend for an amc360 with an np435 behind it? What horsepower and torque did it give you? Any Gas Mileage improvements?
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    Headman Header
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    Doug Thorley
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    Edelbrock
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    Another
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    Jesus is Coming Soon.
  • BRUTUS
    360 AMC
    • Dec 06, 2005
    • 3442

    #2
    headman because it was cheap! No noticable gains in gas mileage, HP or torque.
    "Brutus" '74 J10 360/T18/D20/Front D60 Pro Rock & ARB/2" shave, ARB, 15 bolt FF Rear/ 4.56 Gears/38.5 x 16 TSL
    Current Jeep Status:Under The Knife
    Current Homepage Status: RUNNING

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    • misfittom138
      350 Buick
      • Dec 19, 2007
      • 1492

      #3
      I'm thinking the doug thorley. That and a flowmaster 40 series muffler. No cat on my jeep, so that should be nice!
      81 Wagoneer 360/727/208, lockrite rear/welded front,4.10s, 7"SOA/shackle flip,3" body,OBA,37" Iroks,chopped,caged,highsteer,hydro assist....

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      • incommando

        #4
        Years ago, I had to replace the headers on my drag car ( '71 Ply Road Runner / 440) in a hurry due to a loading-it-on-the-trailer incident. I had some fairly decent hooker 2" primary headers/4" collector headers, but the only thing I could get in time was 1.75" /3.5" Dynomax Black Jack el-cheapos. They are probably exactly like Hedmans. Well, they made zero, zilch, nada difference in my 60' foot time, ET, or trap speed. And this is on a 550 hp engine. So, on most engines I don't think the "better" headers will really make a difference at all.

        My concern, through experience, with 4x headers is rust through. That may not be a concern where you are, but I would recommend some sort of coated header for longevity. When I had headers on my 2A with a swapped in 225, I replaced them about every other year. Luckily they were easy. But the rust problem also occured on a 78 w150 and a CJ5.

        Just my 2 cents.

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        • JERSEY JOE
          304 AMC
          • Jan 15, 2004
          • 1610

          #5
          EDELBROCK SHORTIES

          I LIKE THE EDELBROCK SHORTIES AND I HAD MINE JET HOT COATED FOR LONG LASTING USE. I ALSO LIKE THE EDELBROCK TES SYSTEM ON A STOCK TRUCK THAT WILL USE LARGE SINGLE EXHAUST RATHER THAN A DUAL SET UP. MY CURRENT J-20 IS USING THE TES
          1985 J-20 401 6 inch lift, 37's plow truck. CURRENT PROJECT
          1986 CJ 7 360 T-18 granny low Dana 44 , 4 inch lift 35's
          1882 CJ 7 360 727 auto Dana 60's 35's cage
          1970 AMX was SCCA B production. 390 cross ram. GOOGLE IT

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          • TPICherokee
            Administrator
            • Jul 02, 2001
            • 3363

            #6
            Doug Thorleys are far superior headers but it looks likely that they are discontinuing the FSJ Header....
            www.bjsoffroad.com - BJ's Off-Road - Your Full-Size Jeeps Parts Specialist

            1987 Grand Wagoneer - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, NP242
            1979 Cherokee Chief - 6-inch BJ's Off-Road Lift Kit, TPI Chev 350, 700R4 with NP208 and 4.56 gears, 35x12.50R17, Rhino Front End, J-Truck Rear Axle, GoMango Orange.
            1979 Cherokee Chief​ - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, Quadratrac, Alpaca Brown Paint, new stock interior
            1976 J10 Longbox - 258, T18, Dana 20 - Sniper Fuel Injection
            1967 M715 - 454 Chevy, TH400, 1100R16 Michelin XZL Tires, Stock otherwise (sold)

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            • jeeping1974
              360 AMC
              • Jun 17, 2007
              • 3066

              #7
              i have hedman headers and i don't care for them. they were and are cheap. the flanges started to warp once they would heat up and cool down and i have had to retighten then bolt multipe times. i finally changed over to studs and am hoping that that will help with the problem.
              03 GMC 2500HD - DD/toy hauler
              06 Street Glide - Cruiser

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              • cajun_lad
                350 Buick
                • Feb 17, 2006
                • 1368

                #8
                I am running Thorley headers on mine. (They came with it when I bought it.) I love the sound, and have never had a "lack" of power. Don't really have anything to base it off since they were always there. They do get pretty hot (ask Casey). The only issue I had, was the dum-dum who put them in did not tighten the header bolts good and I eventually was down to about 5 or so (total for both headers). Once I changed the blown header gaskets and replaced the missing bolts, my exhaust leak went away and never looked back since.
                Joey
                Jeep-Less

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                • shackwrrr
                  360 AMC
                  • Mar 04, 2006
                  • 3145

                  #9


                  they still makem
                  Jeepless

                  In to Turbo crap now

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                  • TPICherokee
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 02, 2001
                    • 3363

                    #10
                    Originally posted by shackwrrr
                    Call them, they don't, we are actually trying to work a deal where they remake them for us...
                    Last edited by TPICherokee; 01-17-2008, 10:29 AM.
                    www.bjsoffroad.com - BJ's Off-Road - Your Full-Size Jeeps Parts Specialist

                    1987 Grand Wagoneer - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, NP242
                    1979 Cherokee Chief - 6-inch BJ's Off-Road Lift Kit, TPI Chev 350, 700R4 with NP208 and 4.56 gears, 35x12.50R17, Rhino Front End, J-Truck Rear Axle, GoMango Orange.
                    1979 Cherokee Chief​ - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, Quadratrac, Alpaca Brown Paint, new stock interior
                    1976 J10 Longbox - 258, T18, Dana 20 - Sniper Fuel Injection
                    1967 M715 - 454 Chevy, TH400, 1100R16 Michelin XZL Tires, Stock otherwise (sold)

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                    • 78indian
                      232 I6
                      • Dec 02, 2003
                      • 215

                      #11
                      thorley headers - $550 - $800
                      headman - $150

                      thorley headers might be nice but for $600 more, they could be gold plated i wouldn't pay that much more for what maybe 5 extra ponies and 1 mpg if any at all.
                      i wish i had money like yall(yous guys-for the yanks) i would invest it in somthing that makes a diference.
                      hmm.... i can get a detroit locker and a set of hedmans for what you pay for crome!
                      78 Cherokee WT

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                      • Charlie_B
                        327 Rambler
                        • Dec 18, 2005
                        • 644

                        #12
                        I dont think it is +/- a couple ponies that make people spend a few extra bucks on headers. My Hedmans leak pretty bad. They need tightening a lot more than they should. I finally got some of the crushable metal gaskets, and its not as bad, but it still leaks. I'd rather have a set of stock manifolds than my Hedmans. Im looking into getting some Thorleys now. And hopefully I can before they stop selling them.
                        '79 Cherokee "Goldie" - under the knife Part I; Part II
                        Currently: body is on, now finishing undercarriage
                        '92 Cherokee "Rusty" - 3" lift, 31s
                        '05 Evo MR "Eve"

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                        • cajun_lad
                          350 Buick
                          • Feb 17, 2006
                          • 1368

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 78indian
                          thorley headers - $550 - $800
                          headman - $150

                          thorley headers might be nice but for $600 more, they could be gold plated i wouldn't pay that much more for what maybe 5 extra ponies and 1 mpg if any at all.
                          i wish i had money like yall(yous guys-for the yanks) i would invest it in somthing that makes a diference.
                          hmm.... i can get a detroit locker and a set of hedmans for what you pay for crome!
                          You are probably that same guy who always has his hood popped on the trail wondering wtf this time?!?! By the way, there is an H in cHrome.

                          Just kidding man, I don't even know you, I don't think. Unless you are Jared, then I do know you. Anyhow, I understand completely. I wouldn't have paid the money for them, but they came with the rig.
                          Joey
                          Jeep-Less

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                          • TPICherokee
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 02, 2001
                            • 3363

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Charlie_B
                            I dont think it is +/- a couple ponies that make people spend a few extra bucks on headers. My Hedmans leak pretty bad. They need tightening a lot more than they should. I finally got some of the crushable metal gaskets, and its not as bad, but it still leaks. I'd rather have a set of stock manifolds than my Hedmans. Im looking into getting some Thorleys now. And hopefully I can before they stop selling them.
                            They don't have any more in stock and aren't making anymore unless BJ's Off-Road buys a bunch which looks like it might happen.

                            Also, they should be for sale for $450 and that includes the Y-pipe, this is why Thorleys cost more. You get what you pay for.
                            www.bjsoffroad.com - BJ's Off-Road - Your Full-Size Jeeps Parts Specialist

                            1987 Grand Wagoneer - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, NP242
                            1979 Cherokee Chief - 6-inch BJ's Off-Road Lift Kit, TPI Chev 350, 700R4 with NP208 and 4.56 gears, 35x12.50R17, Rhino Front End, J-Truck Rear Axle, GoMango Orange.
                            1979 Cherokee Chief​ - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, Quadratrac, Alpaca Brown Paint, new stock interior
                            1976 J10 Longbox - 258, T18, Dana 20 - Sniper Fuel Injection
                            1967 M715 - 454 Chevy, TH400, 1100R16 Michelin XZL Tires, Stock otherwise (sold)

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                            • TPICherokee
                              Administrator
                              • Jul 02, 2001
                              • 3363

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 78indian
                              hmm.... i can get a detroit locker and a set of hedmans for what you pay for crome!
                              Ha, you will also be pissed off everytime you have to tighten your headers because they leak and you sound like you are farting down the road with all of your exhaust leaks. We don't even sell the Hedmans because they are junk, total junk.
                              www.bjsoffroad.com - BJ's Off-Road - Your Full-Size Jeeps Parts Specialist

                              1987 Grand Wagoneer - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, NP242
                              1979 Cherokee Chief - 6-inch BJ's Off-Road Lift Kit, TPI Chev 350, 700R4 with NP208 and 4.56 gears, 35x12.50R17, Rhino Front End, J-Truck Rear Axle, GoMango Orange.
                              1979 Cherokee Chief​ - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, Quadratrac, Alpaca Brown Paint, new stock interior
                              1976 J10 Longbox - 258, T18, Dana 20 - Sniper Fuel Injection
                              1967 M715 - 454 Chevy, TH400, 1100R16 Michelin XZL Tires, Stock otherwise (sold)

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