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  • 81cherokee laredo
    258 I6
    • Jun 20, 2005
    • 467

    #31
    WOW!! that is amazing work
    Dan
    81 Cherokee Laredo- 360 727 NP219 SOA/SF 35 Coopers 4.56 Gears
    83 Cherokee - Katy- long term project
    89 Grand Wagoneer- 360 727 NP229 31x10.50's on slot rims

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    • tgreese
      • May 29, 2003
      • 11682

      #32
      Wow, this looks like heaps of fun. Very impressive. I wish I had the time/skill/space/tools to do metal work like this.

      Interesting that you use the jig saw here - I too have used the jig saw to cut out panels and found it a very effective method.

      Keep it coming! I'm subscribed
      Tim Reese
      Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
      Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
      Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
      GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
      ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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      • Kaiserjeeps
        360 AMC
        • Oct 02, 2002
        • 2808

        #33
        Geez, you guys are gonna give me a big head. I am seriously new to this. I got some cool training at a extreme high end shop, but the work went away with the economy. I was bummed and would have worked for free if I could.
        I figure it's only metal right? It can be moved.

        And yes the skil saw works great for sheet metal.

        Thanks for the words. There is something to be said about following your bliss. Unseen doors will open. And they have.

        Thank you.
        Last edited by Kaiserjeeps; 07-09-2010, 10:45 AM.
        Melford1972 says...
        I’d say I feel sorry for you, but I really don’t, Mr. “I-stumble-into-X-models-the-way-most-people-stumble-into-Toyota-Carollas.” 🤣
        -----------------------
        I make wag parts
        1969 CJ-5 41 years owned
        1969 1414X Wag in avocado mist
        1970 1414X Wag in avocado mist
        1968 M715 restomod
        2001 Dodge 3500
        2002 Toyota Tundra
        2006 Toyota 4runner was Liz's, parked



        Building a m715 over at the m715zone
        Beloved wife Elizabeth Ann Temple Murdered by covid on Oct 19th 2021

        Small violin, large amp

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        • billyj7175
          304 AMC
          • Sep 10, 2001
          • 1513

          #34
          I hate to be a broken record here, but wow...that is some outstanding metal work there!
          83 J-10 Jeep "Oscar"
          360/727/229
          4" Rusty's w/33X12.50 BFG AT's

          I'll apologize ahead of time...my inner voice has Tourette's...

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          • Smithers
            230 Tornado
            • Dec 21, 2009
            • 15

            #35
            You can never have too many Vise-grips and C-clamps. They just make life more easy. Looks great man!

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            • Kaiserjeeps
              360 AMC
              • Oct 02, 2002
              • 2808

              #36
              And I need more visegrips!

              I got a little more done. The floor was toast. A good reason for carpet instead of the original rubber or vinyl mat. Fortunately the hat channels and the rocker were excellent. I needed a new toe piece in front of the patch panel.
              And new floor between the patch panels.









              Everything is rough cut. Lots of fitting left.



              More to follow.
              Melford1972 says...
              I’d say I feel sorry for you, but I really don’t, Mr. “I-stumble-into-X-models-the-way-most-people-stumble-into-Toyota-Carollas.” 🤣
              -----------------------
              I make wag parts
              1969 CJ-5 41 years owned
              1969 1414X Wag in avocado mist
              1970 1414X Wag in avocado mist
              1968 M715 restomod
              2001 Dodge 3500
              2002 Toyota Tundra
              2006 Toyota 4runner was Liz's, parked



              Building a m715 over at the m715zone
              Beloved wife Elizabeth Ann Temple Murdered by covid on Oct 19th 2021

              Small violin, large amp

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              • tgreese
                • May 29, 2003
                • 11682

                #37
                I've been collecting links to rust repair projects for a while. This thread was added. Here are a couple that you guys might like:

                http://spi.forumup.org/viewtopic.php?t=1939&mforum=spi

                Tim Reese
                Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
                Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
                Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
                GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
                ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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                • joe
                  • Apr 28, 2000
                  • 22392

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Kaiserjeeps
                  Geez, you guys are gonna give me a big head. I am seriously new to this. I got some cool training at a extreme high end shop, but the work went away with the economy. I was bummed and would have worked for free if I could.
                  I figure it's only metal right? It can be moved.
                  Thank you.
                  Good attitude. I'd work for a metal masher for free to learn. I'm no mechanic by any means but due to the enviroment outside the house I grew up with the wrench in hand rather than a hammer. Looking back it's odd cause my old man was a tool-n-die maker by trade and one year the shop he worked for was contracted to build an Indy race car body. Old man made the model and hammer formed the entire body for a 60 something Indy car. Made me take notice of how much skill/eye is required to do nice work rather than just standard bang it, weld it, grind it, paint it, cash the check.
                  If you ever go commercial and can provide tent or bag space email me I'd give you some serious time mucking the shop, cleaning heads or whatever to learn from you.

                  Nice work sir!
                  joe
                  "Don't mind me. I'm just here for the alibi"

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                  • Kaiserjeeps
                    360 AMC
                    • Oct 02, 2002
                    • 2808

                    #39
                    Well here is some more. I started on the rear seat surround after finishing the front passenger floor pan. I was going to build forward and join with the new panel. Then I found a X model wagoneer in the desert here in southern OR. The floors in it are ten times better than this one. The rest of it is way to rusty to deal with. I will be cut and pasting big parts in now. I won't have to hand make each piece. The rig is 5 hours away and my tow rig is down. So time to sweet talk a friend who has been known to volunteer for a jeep recovery or two in the past. I did score the whole interior of the X model for spares for me. Sweet!

                    The brittle gas filler necks are starting to soften from the daily sprays of 303 protectant. Looks like they will be able to be saved.

                    When I get the cab here I will post up more. Grafting in factory components is the best way to go here. Stay tuned...


                    My pictures won't load.
                    Melford1972 says...
                    I’d say I feel sorry for you, but I really don’t, Mr. “I-stumble-into-X-models-the-way-most-people-stumble-into-Toyota-Carollas.” 🤣
                    -----------------------
                    I make wag parts
                    1969 CJ-5 41 years owned
                    1969 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                    1970 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                    1968 M715 restomod
                    2001 Dodge 3500
                    2002 Toyota Tundra
                    2006 Toyota 4runner was Liz's, parked



                    Building a m715 over at the m715zone
                    Beloved wife Elizabeth Ann Temple Murdered by covid on Oct 19th 2021

                    Small violin, large amp

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                    • Kaiserjeeps
                      360 AMC
                      • Oct 02, 2002
                      • 2808

                      #40
                      Thanks Joe. I am trying to move to a bigger shop, smaller home. I would expand if it happened. I also want to go back to school on this stuff.
                      Or afford the wheel and bigger tools and learn by trying hands on.
                      I was working on a 150K copy of the graffitti coupe for a while at a great job a couple years ago. Now that was intimidating. Every move watched by the owner in Tacoma via camera along with all day updates. Rivit's in the frame would get moved 2 inches to be correct. Nutso.

                      I like the old waggie sitting here. Low key and she is going to be a cream puff with SS hubcaps in the end.
                      Cheers!
                      Melford1972 says...
                      I’d say I feel sorry for you, but I really don’t, Mr. “I-stumble-into-X-models-the-way-most-people-stumble-into-Toyota-Carollas.” 🤣
                      -----------------------
                      I make wag parts
                      1969 CJ-5 41 years owned
                      1969 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                      1970 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                      1968 M715 restomod
                      2001 Dodge 3500
                      2002 Toyota Tundra
                      2006 Toyota 4runner was Liz's, parked



                      Building a m715 over at the m715zone
                      Beloved wife Elizabeth Ann Temple Murdered by covid on Oct 19th 2021

                      Small violin, large amp

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                      • Kaiserjeeps
                        360 AMC
                        • Oct 02, 2002
                        • 2808

                        #41
                        I'll use photobucket. My camera has changed and my files are to big for uploading directly.









                        All this will be removed now. I will capture the whole surround from the other cab. It is in great shape while the rest of the cab is toast. It would have taken some panel fabbing.

                        Melford1972 says...
                        I’d say I feel sorry for you, but I really don’t, Mr. “I-stumble-into-X-models-the-way-most-people-stumble-into-Toyota-Carollas.” 🤣
                        -----------------------
                        I make wag parts
                        1969 CJ-5 41 years owned
                        1969 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                        1970 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                        1968 M715 restomod
                        2001 Dodge 3500
                        2002 Toyota Tundra
                        2006 Toyota 4runner was Liz's, parked



                        Building a m715 over at the m715zone
                        Beloved wife Elizabeth Ann Temple Murdered by covid on Oct 19th 2021

                        Small violin, large amp

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                        • hkjensli
                          258 I6
                          • Jan 29, 2001
                          • 284

                          #42
                          Extremely impressive work!
                          1991 GW 4bbl Edelbrock intake, carb & MSD ignition (wrecked)1988 GW bone stock (donor)(Under Recovery)
                          Drive safe Drive a FSJ!
                          Henning Kjensli

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                          • JTRUCKJMC
                            232 I6
                            • Feb 14, 2007
                            • 50

                            #43
                            Updates pleaseeee.
                            74 J10 1ton
                            73 Waggy

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                            • Kaiserjeeps
                              360 AMC
                              • Oct 02, 2002
                              • 2808

                              #44
                              Hey good timing. I have been busy securing land to build on in the woods here. Talk about a time hog. The Land use and Fire folks have a lot of hoops to jump through.

                              I ended up finding a1969 1414x model donor in southern Oregon (thanks Rob) that had excellent body parts. It took several weeks to get everybody organized to go pick it up. My friend John who generously donated his tow rig for my trailer haul has done these all day recoveries before. It was a very long day and I owe him a thank you.
                              I also scored the interior for my X model I will build next. That included the factory AC for mine. Sweet!
                              Most of the rear of this donor rig was gone. Same with the quarters. But the carpeted passenger area was close to perfect. It was exactly what I needed.
                              Rob wanted the axles so we landed it on the trailer and took the axles from under it.



                              The floors were incredible.



                              Meanwhile back at home the rig waited. I found the drivers side hat channel rotten and collapsed. The 69 had near perfect metal with only surface rust. Time to graft.



                              Not much holding this rig down when it came here.



                              Cut lines.



                              Cut and paste. The toe board of the firewall on the drivers side. I am glad to have found this extra rig even though I enjoy making panels. There was a ton to do. This is going to make it a lot faster.



                              I will fill the front pan area with a BJ's patch panel. The entire rest of the floor will be replaced as a unit. Including the rear seat surround.

                              This is starting to become comical.

                              Last edited by Kaiserjeeps; 09-15-2010, 09:44 PM.
                              Melford1972 says...
                              I’d say I feel sorry for you, but I really don’t, Mr. “I-stumble-into-X-models-the-way-most-people-stumble-into-Toyota-Carollas.” 🤣
                              -----------------------
                              I make wag parts
                              1969 CJ-5 41 years owned
                              1969 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                              1970 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                              1968 M715 restomod
                              2001 Dodge 3500
                              2002 Toyota Tundra
                              2006 Toyota 4runner was Liz's, parked



                              Building a m715 over at the m715zone
                              Beloved wife Elizabeth Ann Temple Murdered by covid on Oct 19th 2021

                              Small violin, large amp

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                              • Kaiserjeeps
                                360 AMC
                                • Oct 02, 2002
                                • 2808

                                #45
                                The donor hat channel. I need to strip the sheet metal off of it and fit it in. Notice the hole for the console shifter in the trans hump. The X model and D model had em. The C model did not.



                                With the rest of the floor removed this is what is left.
                                I still need to clean all edges back to parent metal. Then lay in the panel and see what happens.
                                It has all new body biscuits and I upgraded the body bolts from 3/8 to 7/16.





                                I have seen easier ways to clean and paint the frame.

                                I will have more soon. Including making the 69 donor rig a serious low rider.
                                Last edited by Kaiserjeeps; 09-15-2010, 09:32 PM.
                                Melford1972 says...
                                I’d say I feel sorry for you, but I really don’t, Mr. “I-stumble-into-X-models-the-way-most-people-stumble-into-Toyota-Carollas.” 🤣
                                -----------------------
                                I make wag parts
                                1969 CJ-5 41 years owned
                                1969 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                                1970 1414X Wag in avocado mist
                                1968 M715 restomod
                                2001 Dodge 3500
                                2002 Toyota Tundra
                                2006 Toyota 4runner was Liz's, parked



                                Building a m715 over at the m715zone
                                Beloved wife Elizabeth Ann Temple Murdered by covid on Oct 19th 2021

                                Small violin, large amp

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