Front springs

[Dmntxn77]

I stand corrected....they are not allllllll the way wrapped like an old timey junky military spring....I guess I forgot, and I have a set.

Well that topic has been discussed for years on this board. I know that all true military wrapped springs are all the way around. Now that said I believe this is as good as you can get....I have read that the reasoning behind not military wrapping the fsj spring is due to the shackles. They will not fit. So I believe Rancho made them this way to accomidate that. The goal was to keep the vehicle stable if the rear main leaf of the spring breaks just like any other military wrapped spring. You will be able to drive it home. I think it would serve its purpose if installed the correct direction. Strongest spring I have used. I would go through a set every two trips before. Been out 5 with these.

It seems to me that this half wrap style would be better. Looks like it would serve its purpose and is way less bulky.

If I dont link my next build, I may have to consider these springs.

I wonder if there is a 63" equivalent for the rear...

[El_Diablo]

the point to a mil warp is to have a redundancy system so that if you break a spring eye you still have another one to bust through

[j20brett]

It seems to me that this half wrap style would be better. Looks like it would serve its purpose and is way less bulky.

If I dont link my next build, I may have to consider these springs.

I wonder if there is a 63" equivalent for the rear...

No, if possible, you want the full military wrap. Ive bent my main leaves twice. With a military wrap, you would have to bend two leaves instead of one. of course, i stopped bending springs when i installed the shackle stops.

[duncanstives]

If shackle stops solve the problem (and it seems like they would in the majority of cases) why does everyone not do it? Seems like it would prevent an annoying failure AND Save you money in replacements costs (a couple bits of metal it a lot cheaper than a new set of springs)... Stops were on my list of stuff to do and they fell off somehow... But now that I am reminded I have re-added them.

Incidentally looks like my springs are not sagging a whole lot worse than everyone elses... I think the ranchos will be perfect since they will give me a little lift, better driveshaft angle and better approach angle... Not to mention greater durability.

[will e]

Ok. I am going to go google military wrap springs and shackle stops but if you guys can tell me what each of these are that would be cool

[will e]

got the info on the military wrap springs. That totally makes sense.

Military wrap is the curl over of the second leaf around the main leaf eye. It is designed such that if the mainleaf breaks, the secondary leaf will keep the spring pack attached to the vehicle to help minimize damage and to allow you to limp home

[j20brett]

Ok. I am going to go google military wrap springs and shackle stops but if you guys can tell me what each of these are that would be cool

Shackle Stop

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showpost.php?p=1166932&postcount=13

[orangecherokee]

Good to know, about what I need.

JTR:
Just a hint, never weld spring steel with E6010 or E6011.
They got you folks out (I read the post) but those are fast freeze rods designed for root passes on pipe welds.
E6013 burns through grease and paint much better and will survive a bit longer for a trail fix. Obviously neither will last, but it's a better trail fix rod and does not go bad with exposure to atmosphere, so you can store them in the rig for a long time.

that's good information to know. thanks

[will e]

[quote=j20brett]Shackle Stop

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showp...2&postcount=13[/quote}

Thanks! I see how that could help.

[J20 project]

I'd really like to find something a bit cheaper.

And you will pay over, and over, and over.
Sorry but now now that hunting season is over I will be jacking up the truck and relocating my spring perches due to execessive sag on my 6in springs. I AM NOT a fan of extended shackles or bump stops that limit spring travel.
J20

[Tigger4X]

Man I was really getting worried about my diesel build and leaf spring failure. Militray wrap and shackle stops will for sure be incorporated now.

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