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  • Mikel
    • Aug 09, 2000
    • 6330

    What I've been up to...



    1969 M715 6x6
    1963 J300 Swivel frame
  • 44BZ
    304 AMC
    • Dec 10, 2009
    • 1570

    #2
    So what's it gonna be? Is it set up to swivel in the middle? I'm sure whatever you've got planned will be epic, just like the 6x6
    Zack - 68 J2000, AMC 327, 4bbl intake, dual exhaust, Pertronix upgrade, Holley 600cfm, T18, dana 20 (twin sticked), 3" body lift w/ 35x12.50 MTRs ~ running AND driving!

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    • Driftwood
      350 Buick
      • Jun 12, 2000
      • 959

      #3
      oooooh, what can it be for? Is the 6x6 going to be sold to make room for this project?
      1979 Wagoneer

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      • threepiece
        350 Buick
        • Sep 17, 2005
        • 1433

        #4
        I find it interesting that I too have been working on such a project. I had a design much like yours but I couldn't commit myself to separating the frame near it's most loaded point. I am now building a touque limiting sub-frame instead.
        FSJ Hybrid build thread: http://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums/...ad.php?t=43332
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        • Mikel
          • Aug 09, 2000
          • 6330

          #5
          Originally posted by threepiece188
          I find it interesting that I too have been working on such a project. I had a design much like yours but I couldn't commit myself to separating the frame near it's most loaded point. I am now building a touque limiting sub-frame instead.

          Keep in mind that the swivel completely eliminates all torsional loads (articulation).

          Got any photos of your setup?
          1969 M715 6x6
          1963 J300 Swivel frame

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          • Oolah10293
            232 I6
            • Oct 17, 2009
            • 64

            #6
            Where is the driveshaft going to go?

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            • Mikel
              • Aug 09, 2000
              • 6330

              #7
              Originally posted by Oolah10293
              Where is the driveshaft going to go?
              Over the swivel.
              1969 M715 6x6
              1963 J300 Swivel frame

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              • threepiece
                350 Buick
                • Sep 17, 2005
                • 1433

                #8
                Originally posted by Mikel
                Keep in mind that the swivel completely eliminates all torsional loads (articulation).


                Got any photos of your setup?
                This is what drew me to this design in the first place however it was dealing with the high bending moment in this area that I could not get comfortable with. It looks like you may have dealt with that issue. I suspect you intend to use this truck in a way that differs from mine. It looks like you have tapered roller bearings and a lock-out feature?

                Other than parts for the assembly jig I have nothing tangible at this point.
                Last edited by threepiece; 04-25-2013, 04:08 AM.
                FSJ Hybrid build thread: http://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums/...ad.php?t=43332
                We are Borg, but we don't know it yet.
                We are being assimilated but we don't know it yet.
                Resistance is not futile yet.
                Are you and your children connected yet?

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                • threepiece
                  350 Buick
                  • Sep 17, 2005
                  • 1433

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mikel
                  Keep in mind that the swivel completely eliminates all torsional loads (articulation).
                  Yes, this is what drew me to the design in the first place however it was dealing with the high vertical bending moment that I could not get comfortable with. It looks like you may have accommodated that issue. I suspect you intend to use this truck in a way that differes from mine.

                  It looks like you have tapered roller bearings and a lock-out feature?

                  Got any photos of your setup?
                  Other than parts for the assembly jig I have nothing tangible at this point.
                  FSJ Hybrid build thread: http://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums/...ad.php?t=43332
                  We are Borg, but we don't know it yet.
                  We are being assimilated but we don't know it yet.
                  Resistance is not futile yet.
                  Are you and your children connected yet?

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                  • Mikel
                    • Aug 09, 2000
                    • 6330

                    #10
                    Originally posted by threepiece188
                    This is what drew me to this design in the first place however it was dealing with the high bending moment in this area that I could not get comfortable with. It looks like you may have dealt with that issue. I suspect you intend to use this truck in a way that differs from mine. It looks like you have tapered roller bearings and a lock-out feature?

                    Other than parts for the assembly jig I have nothing tangible at this point.

                    I couldn't find tapered roller bearings small enough that had the necessary thrust and radia loading capacities, so I went with a combo of cylindrical needle roller bearings and thrust bearings. The cylindrical needle bearings have a static capacity of 65,000 lbs and the thrust bearings 55,000. If I lifted the (loaded) truck from the swivel, it would still be within the acceptable loading range. The entire assembly is sealed and will be filled with gear oil.
                    1969 M715 6x6
                    1963 J300 Swivel frame

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                    • Brizio
                      AMC 4 OH! 1
                      • Apr 11, 2008
                      • 4850

                      #11
                      Looks interesting!
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                      • e_digg
                        258 I6
                        • Oct 26, 2009
                        • 351

                        #12
                        You are an engineering genius! I hope it doesn't look like this though!
                        1991 Grand Wagoneer
                        My 91 Phoenix Build Thread

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                        • austinaubinoe
                          360 AMC
                          • Aug 08, 2010
                          • 2994

                          #13
                          first thing that came to my mind:

                          Austin

                          1991 Hunter Green Grand Wagoneer
                          5.9 2bbl-727-NP229-TFI-30x9.5 Firestone M/T's-Brush Guard-tire mount
                          SOON: 4350 and cast iron intake

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                          • e_digg
                            258 I6
                            • Oct 26, 2009
                            • 351

                            #14
                            I was actually thinking of this (below) but flipped on the joint axis for suspension purposes. I studied Mechanical Tech in college so I know what he is getting at. I however could never fabricate something like it!
                            1991 Grand Wagoneer
                            My 91 Phoenix Build Thread

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                            • bigun
                              • Feb 10, 2003
                              • 20092

                              #15
                              Is this going to be another 6X6?
                              charlie
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