Ever Heard of a Nissan SD33 Diesel Powered FSJ?

[AMC-J/20]

Seek out some AM-General AM715/A2's or KIA Motors KM450's for your Nissan diesel power train parts . . . The AM-G's were Badge engineered FSJ's

Mike

[TexTJ209]

Just from ordering parts for a CJ-10A aircraft tug, the SD33 starter is really hard to find and about $600 for a reman.

[AMC-J/20]

I had a 1981 or 83' Chevette with a 1.8L I4 Diesel a reman starter for it was $450 ! ! !

Mike

[Grantshire]

Just from ordering parts for a CJ-10A aircraft tug, the SD33 starter is really hard to find and about $600 for a reman.

Yes they are! But, I have two complete running engines with working starters. That's why I am trying so hard to make this work.

[Chevelleguy]

The SD33 engine has a SAE #3 bolt pattern because it was designed for industrial use, not automotive. They were the standard engine for a lot of forklifts. Someone with machine shop experience would not have a problem with making/modifying a bellhousing to fit but those skills aren't in my tool box.

No need to fab one, Phoenix Casting (among other, I'm sure) makes one already. http://www.phxgrp.com/transmission.htm

[Grantshire]

No need to fab one, Phoenix Casting (among other, I'm sure) makes one already. http://www.phxgrp.com/transmission.htm

I have been talking to the Phoenix people for a couple of years, they do not make an adapter to mate a SAE #3 engine to the AX15. Most of their adapter are for automatics (GM 700R4, Ford C6 or Chrysler 727). My enine is already mated to a TF 727. I have not found anyone else that mates a SAE #3 to the AX15 transmission.

[Grantshire]

Seek out some AM-General AM715/A2's or KIA Motors KM450's for your Nissan diesel power train parts . . . The AM-G's were Badge engineered FSJ's

Mike

Mike, you have any more information on these? I have googled both and cannot find much. KM450 is a M715 look-a-like but I don't think parts are available here. Not turning up much on AM-General other than their 6.2 & 6.5 powered HUMVEES.

[biotex]

Richard,
Back in Dec. 09, you posted (on a different forum) that you parted out your CJ10-A. Did you end up keeping it afterall, or get another one?

Since you mentioned you had 2 engines, I guess you parted one, then realized your mistake, and corrected it?

I just started mine up for the first time and test drove it. All that is left, is to fabricate a bed. I have a parts YJ bed I'm going to chop up.

I would be very interested if you find the adapter to mate a T176. I have a scout T-19 mated to a D20, and am tempted to use it, but am going to try the 727 and see how it works out first. I'm running waggy D44's with 3.31 ratio IIRC. Whatever came with the tow package in 86.

Eric

[Grantshire]

Richard,
Back in Dec. 09, you posted (on a different forum) that you parted out your CJ10-A. Did you end up keeping it afterall, or get another one?

Since you mentioned you had 2 engines, I guess you parted one, then realized your mistake, and corrected it?

I just started mine up for the first time and test drove it. All that is left, is to fabricate a bed. I have a parts YJ bed I'm going to chop up.

I would be very interested if you find the adapter to mate a T176. I have a scout T-19 mated to a D20, and am tempted to use it, but am going to try the 727 and see how it works out first. I'm running waggy D44's with 3.31 ratio IIRC. Whatever came with the tow package in 86.

Eric

Eric,

Yep, same tug. My best friend I build my Jeeps wanted the tug tub for his sand dragger project so I let him have it. He was building a CJ10 type pickup on a bobbed aftermarket Scrambler frame. He died unexpectedly midproject and I am going to finish it. I have a YJ tub that I plan to modify to be a CJ10A tub but 6" longer (tug is shorter than Scrambler cab) then will put pickup bed on back.

Will keep you posted on T176/AX15 quest. I know it can be done judt have to find the right person with the details. Keep me posted on yours.

Richard

[boghog360]

Richard, Dennis here. I just last week put my t-176 back into my cj5. I wish I would of taken out the alum. bellhousing for pics. Just had it out for a rebuild. I would like to have a 5 speed also. I was wondering if the bellhousings on the Toyoto or Nissan trucks would match up. I just don't believe Nissan made up 5 of these BH's for those waggy's. Oh, on the other side, it is so nice to have syncros that work.
Thanks again for the disc you sent me, it has been useful.

[JeepinPete]

I missed this thread first time around...

You should be able to use your adapter with a manual trans as is. What you need depends on which bell housing pattern your 727 is. Chrysler, Jeep (AMC), etc. If it is a Chrysler pattern, use a NV3500 out of a Dakota or 1500 Pickup. You would need the Chrysler flywheel, clutch, etc. If it is AMC, NV3500 out of a 4.0L Jeep. The adapters used on diesel engine simply replicate the back of the engine the trans is supposed to be mounted to.

[threepiece]

AM-General's AM715/720 A2's were Nissan Diesel powered, Those were FSJ's rebadged !

Mike

Perhaps not all had the SD33. I have what I think is an AM 715, it has an AMC 258

[Carnuck]

Is the 727 a Jeep/AMC pattern bellhousing or a Mopar pattern ?

Big Block Mopar (I've seen a couple up close) with an adapter.

If you do the swap, get the turbo motor (built stronger internally than non-turbo)

Here's my thought: Either run an '80 up Jeep T18A (long input shaft) with the T19 Scout bell or find a Mopar big block std bell and see if say the 5 speed from a Turbo Cummins would work with it, then get an adapter input shaft and you're good to go.
Or buy a Ranger O/D (bolts inside the bellhousing) and put that between the T18A trans and SD33T motor with the IH T19 bell.

And check out John Meister's SD33T to J10 Honcho thread.

http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/0_best-of-CJ-10A.html

[MCoyle101]

I have a 88 Wagoneer that I put a SD33T from a 80 Scout. I run the t19 close ratio and 3.73 gears at the moment. I'm sure this rig weighs over 4500 and it seems to do the speed limit fine. If you have any questions let me know.
Marcus

[nc wagoneer]

What sorta mpg do yall get with the sd33??? I might do an sd33(t) swap or see if my dad will let me use the ld28 (sd33's little brother) out of the old datsun wagon sitting behind the house.