Hey, Rob - wondering if you have any pix of how your fuel line & return is routed? Mine routes similar to what you show to where the frame bends up over the axle; once there, I have rubber line following the frame to the front of the block, up the front & over the intake to the throttle body. Am wondering if you came up the firewall & straight over? Or, if there
Howell TBI / EFI Installation How-To for CARB E.O. #D-452-2
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Originally posted by TheodoreHey, Rob - wondering if you have any pix of how your fuel line & return is routed? Mine routes similar to what you show to where the frame bends up over the axle; once there, I have rubber line following the frame to the front of the block, up the front & over the intake to the throttle body. Am wondering if you came up the firewall & straight over? Or, if there
I've looked up and down this forum for good Wagoneer-specific ideas on how to install the Howell TBI kit, but info is rare both here and via google searches. Figured I'd create a thread to separately track the Howell install I'm doing on my mechanically stock 88 Grand Wagoneer. This will be an "as I build it" type--Rob--
1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
My build thread:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...er-restoration
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...rb-e-o-d-452-2
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Originally posted by MysticRobHard to see I think, but my #4 thread post shows both feed and return lines. Since mine is an 88, both the feed and return lines are on the driver side frame rail, so I simply cut the feed hardline near the frame void in front of the fuel tank cover to install the filter and pump, and cut the return line just before where the e-brake cable pops out of the frame. That's the pic where I'm flaring that return line, as it's a slightly smaller diameter and the return hose wouldn't naturally stay on.
https://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/show...95&postcount=4
Edited: bit by the apostrophe bug…
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Originally posted by MysticRobHard to see I think, but my #4 thread post shows both feed and return lines. Since mine is an 88, both the feed and return lines are on the driver side frame rail, so I simply cut the feed hardline near the frame void in front of the fuel tank cover to install the filter and pump, and cut the return line just before where the e-brake cable pops out of the frame. That's the pic where I'm flaring that return line, as it's a slightly smaller diameter and the return hose wouldn't naturally stay on.
https://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/show...95&postcount=4
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Originally posted by TheodoreApologies, I must have not been clear; where does it go from there? Ie., does it route up the firewall on the drivers side, or toward where the mechanical fuel pump was & up the front of the block & back over the intake to the throttle body? I dont have a pic of mine right now; will try to post what I have tmw to compare.--Rob--
1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
My build thread:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...er-restoration
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...rb-e-o-d-452-2
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Originally posted by MysticRobJust straight up the back of the engine near the firewall (since both TB nipples are on the rear) to keep it away from the exhaust.Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
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Originally posted by rang-a-stangSame as mine. I routed mine up near the brake booster, then soft line just behind the valve cover, meeting up with the TBI near the EGR valve.
Head-on pic:
PXL_20210518_233159515 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
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Yep, along firewall as well. I strongly recommend to folks metal lines off TBI, then soft lines.
Especially folks running an EGR valve.
Dorman sells TBI line repair kits with correct fittings for TBI.
Bend easily and gives me a little piece of mind.
OEMs used metal sections for a reason.Tony
88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8
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Originally posted by TheodoreK; thanks. MysticRob, looking back at old pix, is the fuel line running in parallel with the brake booster line in this pic?--Rob--
1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
My build thread:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...er-restoration
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...rb-e-o-d-452-2
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Hi Rob
I want to thank you for this tread. I just started the installation of a Howell system on my 89 wagoneer and it has cleared up a lot of questions i had. how were you able to remove the evaporator from the houseing. there doesn't seem to be enough slack in the lines to get it out.
thanks again. Lane
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Originally posted by bristolf2bHi Rob
I want to thank you for this tread. I just started the installation of a Howell system on my 89 wagoneer and it has cleared up a lot of questions i had. how were you able to remove the evaporator from the houseing. there doesn't seem to be enough slack in the lines to get it out.
thanks again. Lane
Also, be aware there should be at least 2 screws that are on the back of the housing that secure the evaporator inside the housing. Make sure all that is removed, obviously.--Rob--
1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
My build thread:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...er-restoration
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...rb-e-o-d-452-2
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Originally posted by bristolf2bRod
How did you get the the the transmission linkage to fit on the lower arm of the throttle linkage.
thanks Lane
PXL_20220220_033003221 by Robert Stone, on Flickr
You can see I still don't have the cruise control linkage hooked up but then again I don't even have the module under the dash at this point either.--Rob--
1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
My build thread:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...er-restoration
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...rb-e-o-d-452-2
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It's a straight back and forth movement and I can't pull it off by hand, so I'm not too worried about it. Not sure how it not being hooked up would damage the transmission.--Rob--
1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer / Baltic Blue & Tan
My build thread:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...er-restoration
My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://forums.ifsja.org/forum/tire-...rb-e-o-d-452-2
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