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  • toyotajeep
    350 Buick
    • Oct 29, 2003
    • 939

    Dana 44 Axle Weight?

    Hello,

    I am contemplating a new set of axles for a Cj build and I need to know the weight of some axles.

    What is the actual weight of a complete front NT Dana 44 out of say a mid to late 70's Wagoneer?

    Preferably seperate front and rear weights.

    Anyone shipped any of these etc. and gotten a weight?

    ROB
  • janie
    • Aug 11, 2001
    • 8270

    #2
    Rob,

    Not sure about the NT, but the WT front Dana 44 tips the scales at about 500 lbs.
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    • cincyjeeprs
      327 Rambler
      • Oct 15, 2003
      • 564

      #3
      I've got an exact set like that in my garage right now waiting for me to get them ready for my Willys. Let me get home tonight and I'll drop them on my foot. I'll let you know how heavy they feel. I know I can only pick up one end at a time. Those suckers are heavy, complete with drums.

      What if I put a bathroom scale under each end and add them together. Will that work? (Seriously, will that work?)
      '85 CJ8 Shiny but Rough
      '54 Willys Aero Lark, 161 F-Head six
      '90 SJ Everything works - sorta. (edit: most things...edit: some things)
      '04 WJ Overland (Blue Pill)

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      • toyotajeep
        350 Buick
        • Oct 29, 2003
        • 939

        #4
        Whoa! 500LBS..........I am making a lightweight CJ-5 with my students and I'm just shopping around for axles.

        I may have to use axles after my namesake!

        Thank you. Any one with NT weights?

        ROB

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        • Dmntxn77
          Hey watch this...
          • Nov 19, 2004
          • 8329

          #5
          All axles are heavy, but D44's probably have the best weight to strength ratio..

          What are the other specs on your CJ? That would help determine your best axle choices...

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          • toyotajeep
            350 Buick
            • Oct 29, 2003
            • 939

            #6
            Here is the dealio. I am building a low weight DD capable CJ-5 that will get close to 20mpg and push 37-38 tires. Before you say I am nuts, here is how. I am using a toyota engine, tranny and t.case. I have the whole truck here now. It would seem logical to just use all the yota stuff.....I know.

            The only reason why the Dana's are on the table is that I already have alot of the support parts, I have 5.38's already, and a Trac-Loc for the front etc. Two main reasons, cheaper and they would match my tow rig which uses Wagoneer 44's.

            According to my limited research the solid-axle yota front axle weighs around 275 or slightly less, and the rear weighs 210 or so.

            BTW- My screen name is derived from my earlier days when I made a Toyota powered CJ-5. It had 5.71's with 38" tires and got upper teens. I hoping to better that with much less weight and so forth.

            I guess I am answering my own question right now.....

            I would still like to know the weight just to help in the math process.

            Thank you, ROB

            Looking like the

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            • TPICherokee
              Administrator
              • Jul 02, 2001
              • 3361

              #7
              Originally posted by janie
              Rob,

              Not sure about the NT, but the WT front Dana 44 tips the scales at about 500 lbs.
              500?!!? That can't be right, can it? If 2 regular size people can lift one, it can't weigh that much...
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              1987 Grand Wagoneer - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, NP242
              1979 Cherokee Chief - 6-inch BJ's Off-Road Lift Kit, TPI Chev 350, 700R4 with NP208 and 4.56 gears, 35x12.50R17, Rhino Front End, J-Truck Rear Axle, GoMango Orange.
              1979 Cherokee Chief​ - 5.3 Vortec, 4L60E, Quadratrac, Alpaca Brown Paint, new stock interior
              1976 J10 Longbox - 258, T18, Dana 20 - Sniper Fuel Injection
              1967 M715 - 454 Chevy, TH400, 1100R16 Michelin XZL Tires, Stock otherwise (sold)

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              • shepherdskeep
                258 I6
                • Aug 12, 2006
                • 277

                #8
                2 regular sized people can lift a D44 rear easy - but a FRONT D44 is another story. It took 3 guys to move my spare WT front into & out of the trailer - and we all nearly busted a gut doing so. The inner & outer knuckles make the extra weight, followed by the brakes.

                I don't have exact weights though, sorry.
                Last edited by shepherdskeep; 09-04-2007, 09:37 PM.
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                79 Cherokee WT
                01 TJ Sport

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                • Dmntxn77
                  Hey watch this...
                  • Nov 19, 2004
                  • 8329

                  #9
                  I loaded a front and rear N/T D44 from an 86 Waggy, and a front and rear W/T D44 from my Chief on a trailer by myself, so I woudnt call them nut busting or anything..

                  BTW, neither had wheels and tires on them, and it wasnt easy, but i wouldnt be afraid to do it again..

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                  • malodin
                    304 AMC
                    • Sep 03, 2004
                    • 1527

                    #10
                    i pulled the front widetrack axle outta my fsj by my self with no one to help and moved it way out of the way of where i was working without much problems, yes its heavy but 500 does seem eccessive
                    1977 CHEROKEE CHIEF, 401, SOA FRONT SITTING ON HD44 4.10'S, TH400/D300 COMBO, 14BFF REAR WITH TT'S FAB'S REAR SHAKLE FLIP KIT, RB'S BRONCO TANK MOD. 35'S

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                    • Subic Jeep
                      327 Rambler
                      • Apr 03, 2007
                      • 549

                      #11
                      http://www.jpmagazine.com/projectbuild/

                      Speaking of weight, we decided to throw the stock axles and the Pro-Rocks on a scale to see how much weight we gained in the swap. A stock TJ Dana 44 rear axle tips the scales at 221 pounds versus the Pro-Rock 60's 338 pounds. Up front the factory TJ Dana 30 weighs in at 238 pounds and the Pro-Rock front a portly 473 pounds. Overall, the axle swap only added 352 pounds to our Jeep. That's less than what we added by switching from 30-inch tires to 37s. Besides, the added weight complements stability by lowering your Jeep's center of gravity to help prevent rollovers. Reducing unnecessary weight is a good idea, but a well-designed, heavier axle that always performs is better than a lightweight axle that breaks down frequently.

                      Lars

                      I am in the five bananas category!
                      Cherokee 1981 officially 1974 huh local irony
                      Gen 1 GM-SB 350 V8 TBI - TH400 - Klune V - Twin stick NP205 w. Nippon shifter
                      Dana 60 w. ARB locker, hydraulic assist + GM 14FF w. Detroit locker.4-link rear on LC80 19mm coils
                      Rancho 5036 Shocks 14 inch travel. 39.5x15.5x15 TSL

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                      • toyotajeep
                        350 Buick
                        • Oct 29, 2003
                        • 939

                        #12
                        It seems like I had heard at one time that a GM 60 SRW weighed 618 or so. I know it was way heavier than any 44..........way heavier.

                        Currently I am looking at the spring thing. I'll post up on that.

                        Thanks people, ROB

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                        • LTS06
                          232 I6
                          • Nov 29, 2006
                          • 246

                          #13
                          I have picked up a front D-44 (mine...from a wagoneer) by myself. I'm a big guy but I agree that 500 seems excessive even for a complete axle. (***I didn't really move it anywhere but I can/did pick it up***)

                          I had an XJ D-44 rear shipped at about 275#...I doubt the knuckles/hubs/spindles add 225#. I could believe 400 but if I can lift 500# I am stronger than I thought.
                          1973 J2000 360/T15
                          1978 CJ-5 304/T-150/D-20 STOCK
                          1987 MJ 10B/14B axles with 5.13's
                          1967 M-416 1/4 ton trailer
                          1974 Scout II 345/T-18/D-20

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                          • SCscoutguy
                            327 Rambler
                            • Jul 25, 2005
                            • 692

                            #14
                            There is no way a front widetrack dana 44 weights 500lbs. I took one out of a J-10 and picked it up by myself and lifted it a few feet up into my trailer. Then I took it off the trailer and walked about 15 feet with it to put it on jackstands.
                            John

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                            • janie
                              • Aug 11, 2001
                              • 8270

                              #15
                              Fellas, I know something was posted about the weight of the WT 44 not to long ago. I'm a doing a search now to try and find it. Obviously, I've never picked one up, but I know I saw on here where someone mentioned the weight being right at 500 pounds.
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