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  • GI-John
    258 I6
    • Apr 11, 2006
    • 262

    I'm Stumped, please explain these markings!

    Tearing down the engine I picked up, I noticed these punch marks on every piston. I've never seen this before. Someone PLEASE explain the logic to this.

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    Just Emptying Every Pocket
  • babywag
    out of order
    • Jun 08, 2005
    • 10286

    #2
    Someone trying/tried to free up a locked engine?

    Someone trying to remove the pistons the hard way?
    Tony
    88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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    • GI-John
      258 I6
      • Apr 11, 2006
      • 262

      #3
      I should mention that I have no clue as to the history of the engine. The guy I bought it from claimed it was out of a 72 J truck. The amount of crud on it made me think that it had not been opened up.
      The heads have an 83 code on them. (I'm guessing that's the year)
      The cam and lifters had some wear on them, but nothing that looked out of the ordinary for a 30-40 year old motor.
      The crank and rods, as well as the bearings were okay, I think I might be able to get away with just polishing the crank. I've never built an AMC motor before, but I'm working with my mechanic buddy who is the Maintenance Manager for my shop.
      Just Emptying Every Pocket

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      • CheapJeepBrad
        232 I6
        • Jan 10, 2012
        • 175

        #4
        That is either the highly-sophisticated science of piston balancing or somebody dumped a sack of bbs in the carb.
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        • mokurt
          258 I6
          • Feb 23, 2014
          • 431

          #5
          Originally posted by CheapJeepBrad
          That is either the highly-sophisticated science of piston balancing or somebody dumped a sack of bbs in the carb.
          BB's came to my mind also.


          What do the heads look like?
          1967 J2000
          1985 CJ7

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          • fsj454
            Long time member
            • Jan 02, 2015
            • 521

            #6
            piston nerl

            They do that to expand piston in bore .That is a redneck piston nurl .Works good
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            • mattmopar440
              AMC 4 OH! 1
              • May 17, 2007
              • 4092

              #7
              has to be "man made" no way something internally caused that on every piston
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              80' J10 4BT/AX-15/208
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              • #8
                I haven't seen that done since the '70s!
                Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental.

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                • pineymike
                  327 Rambler
                  • Feb 22, 2008
                  • 506

                  #9
                  Punched?

                  Are there matching marks on the heads,I agree they look to be made on purpose? for some reason? who knows?

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                  • mokurt
                    258 I6
                    • Feb 23, 2014
                    • 431

                    #10
                    Yep someone could have swaged the tops to try to reduce the clearance.
                    1967 J2000
                    1985 CJ7

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                    • serehill
                      Gone,Never Forgotten.
                      • Nov 22, 2009
                      • 8619

                      #11
                      So

                      If that was going on to expand the piston & it would only expand the top & bottom then the expansion would be egg shaped? Why did they not do the sides. They are gapped. Wouldn't the mark be concentric & not so close to the edge. Just curious I've never seen this done. I would think ball bearings or BB's also. Weakening the edge of the piston can't be good. It would be a great reason to sell the motor.
                      The fact there are matching marks on the head dispels the piston expansion theory to me. The fact there are marks on the head make me believe they were bearings not BB's. It would have to be something awfully hard to mark the head.

                      If he still has the vehicle it would be interesting to see what's in the muffler.

                      I certainly would not trust the rods. This could be similar to Hydro locking.

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                      360 ci 727 with
                      Comp cams 270 h
                      NP208
                      Edlebrock performer intake
                      Holley 4180
                      Msd total multi spark.
                      4" rusty's springs
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                      If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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                      • Adam_Tinkerer
                        232 I6
                        • Mar 16, 2011
                        • 156

                        #12
                        It's braille, for blind engine builders!

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                        • GI-John
                          258 I6
                          • Apr 11, 2006
                          • 262

                          #13
                          There are no other marks on the heads; they look pretty good. My father in law also thought that it was a redneck way to fit the pistons in the bores.

                          I think there was another sign that the motor was rebuilt but didn't think about it until now; the rods were already marked. This wasn't something that the factory did, was it?

                          I'll find out more later this week when I hear back from the machine shop.
                          Just Emptying Every Pocket

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                          • #14
                            Most of the ones I took apart were already marked in post '70 vehicles.
                            Jeep gauges are for amusement only. Any correlation between them and reality is purely coincidental.

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                            • Ristow
                              • Jan 20, 2006
                              • 17292

                              #15
                              lol. doing that would do nothing to make the piston fit tighter in the bore.

                              those pistons would go in the scrap bin.
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