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  • Mikel
    • Aug 09, 2000
    • 6330

    Post vs non-post articulation

    Hello,
    I'm considering moving the front springs in my J300 outboard (now they use the later style under the frame mounts), to the same spring spacing as the old post style mounts. I'm wondering how much articulation I'm going to lose by moving the springs outboard.

    Do the non-post trucks flex noticeably better in the front than the older post trucks?

    Thanks,
    Mikel
    Last edited by Mikel; 01-06-2008, 09:10 AM.
    1969 M715 6x6
    1963 J300 Swivel frame
  • joe
    • Apr 28, 2000
    • 22392

    #2
    Can't help ya Mikel cause I dunno...but I love your avatar.
    joe
    "Don't mind me. I'm just here for the alibi"

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    • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
      Cherokee Outlaw
      • Jan 10, 2006
      • 7292

      #3
      Originally posted by joe
      Can't help ya Mikel cause I dunno...but I love your avatar.
      POST PADDER!!!!!!!
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      PAD...I dont know either...but you shouldnt lose a WHOLE lot but it probably will be noticable
      -Jonny B.
      1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
      7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
      AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
      NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
      F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
      R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

      1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
      1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
      1979 Wagoneer - Sold
      1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed

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      • Mikel
        • Aug 09, 2000
        • 6330

        #4
        Thank you both. I made that years ago, using the gif below and adding the truck, the mud and the face wiping action. I also made the driving a bit more erratic


        Didn't have a FSJ to waste my time on back then
        Last edited by Mikel; 01-06-2008, 09:49 AM.
        1969 M715 6x6
        1963 J300 Swivel frame

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        • KaiserMan
          I got the Willys....
          • Jun 21, 2005
          • 8702

          #5
          I just had my Gladiator jacked up in the rear (one side at a time, had each side up real high I as had to drop the axle real low to swap spring pins-12" pins) causing the front suspension to flex. Seemed to flex great. Never seen my truck flex off road since I'm always the one driving it.
          Thomas Russell
          1987 Cherokee Laredo 2-Door 4.0/AW4
          1971 Gladiator
          J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

          1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
          1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400

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          • FSJeeper
            King of Unfinished Projects
            • May 20, 2000
            • 5270

            #6
            Mikel, The further out you move your springs, the less articulation you'll have to a degree. Also, the further out you move your springs the more stable you will be. I have owned both post mount trucks and late model mounts and really can't tell any difference other than the later model FSJ's drive and handle better.
            In Process: 91 Wagoneer, D61/71 axles with 3.07 gearing, NV4500, NP205. Cummins 6BT.

            Back burner project: Crew cab M715, Cummins/Allison/Rockwell Tcase/Dana 61/Dana 71.

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            • Herk
              350 Buick
              • Jun 12, 2006
              • 1124

              #7
              The farther out you move your springs the sooner the tires will hit them, limiting your turning radius and overall tire size. Also, you will have to move the shock out as well, causing even more trouble. Jeep moved the springs IN for a reason.
              There are 2 rules to success in life...
              Rule #1: Don't tell people everything you know.

              1971 J-4700/Buick 350 Stage 1/TH400/D20/D44/D60/Koenig PTO Winch
              2005 LJ Rubicon Pretty close to stock

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              • Mikel
                • Aug 09, 2000
                • 6330

                #8
                Originally posted by Herk
                The farther out you move your springs the sooner the tires will hit them, limiting your turning radius and overall tire size. Also, you will have to move the shock out as well, causing even more trouble. Jeep moved the springs IN for a reason.
                Using stock sized tires, there is more than enough room for the steering motion of the front tires. I'm not interested in large tires for this truck.
                1969 M715 6x6
                1963 J300 Swivel frame

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                • #9
                  the amount of leverage the axle will need to move the same spring in a closer to wheel position will be greater (more spring compression), meaning less flex. will you notice it? probably not.

                  Al
                  79 Cherokee Chief "Kronk" - TBI350/SM465/NP205
                  99 Dodge 2500 4x4 - Cummins 24v
                  07 Mazdaspeed3 GT - Big turbo, 340whp

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