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Originally posted by fulsizjeep
'tis always good to have happy ending 
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Hey, let's not jump the gun yet :P Only halfway there!
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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Waited patiently for another box to come..came today with new set of hardware, oil seals, and brackets.
Not sure on the oil seals though...I sent him the correct part number National 415003 with links where to get it, he sent me National 415458. The 458's are noticably thinner. So..asking why.
Haven't cross referenced the part number yet to application, but will in a bit, or if someone is bored...
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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the 458 is noticeably thinner than the thick 003.
There is a noticeable difference- the OEM 003 has a metal backing at the oil lip seal, the other one is open rubber.
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okay found both on Rockauto:
003: Nitrile Seal, Shaft Size=2.625", Housing Bore=3.623, Outer Diameter=3.628, Width=0.468in
458: Nitrile Seal, Shaft Size=2.625", Housing Bore=3.623, Outer Diameter=3.628, Width=0.375in
so the only difference is in the width. Should I just order the ones I need and say screw it at this point? Does the width matter?
I of course, sent the vendor this new predicament with the info above. Maybe his supplier screwed up, I dunno. I'm a patient dude. Really..I am.Last edited by Gambler68; 12-16-2010, 04:23 PM.1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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i'd take the thicker one with the metal backing.
it's true,i have parts here for him from months ago unsent,he hasn't even had the traditional ifsja style "RISTOW SUCKS" drama explosion thread or nuthin.I'm a patient dude. Really..I am.Originally posted by Hankrod
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...Comment
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Oh, just wait till I get workin the front axle :P I'm going to send a Strip-O-Gram girl wearing nothing but Little Debbie Snack cakes to your door.....and I ain't requesting the cute one this time...Originally posted by Ristow
Yeah, I want the correct seal for it. If I have to order them myself for 19 dollars for the pair I will, but offering to send the 2 sets now I have of wrong ones so he can get a refund and send me the right ones, hopefully.
Just always *my* luck things get messed up, I guess
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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and it'll take even more little debbies to cover up the corn-fed girl. i'm kinda excited now......Originally posted by Hankrod
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...Comment
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that was my thought exactly :P1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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LOL!
hey,come do my D44 on my GW next. the caliper will help keep my wheels under me. maybe i should lay off the little debbies...may have overloaded the axle bearing. it was the drivers side y'know.
Originally posted by Hankrod
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...Comment
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hmmm good point. No, my D44 is getting a high steer drag link and tie rod and tre kit. You need Flint to come fix your rear end, he's got practice at itOriginally posted by RistowLOL!
hey,come do my D44 on my GW next. the caliper will help keep my wheels under me. maybe i should lay off the little debbies...may have overloaded the axle bearing. it was the drivers side y'know.
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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<sigh> Experience tells me it is much easier to put new bearings and seals in them if the backing plate isn't ground to scrap.Originally posted by Gambler68You need Flint to come fix your rear end, he's got practice at it
Hmmm, mine was a lefty too. <moon pie weakness>
Flint
Ran when parked.
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88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
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I blame the gas tank...that's why I keep mine on empty all the time :P1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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Vendors reply was that they are an updated design, and perhaps the thinner seal will be less leak prone. I dunno. When it warms up I'll try em out, or drop 20 clams and order the OEM ones if they don't work..seals on the FF D60 are stupidly easy to change, so it's not a huge issue.
Now time to get some studs and get on with this swap!
1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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I went to Napa and they crossed the original National seal # to Napa part# 26238. $21.49 Each. Worked great.Comment
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Mine came with National 003's installed: $9.72 cents each. The other ones sent are 7.50 or so each..from Rockauto.Originally posted by Jeep madness
ah I see yours..the difference is yours has the dirt lip that the 003's have, and the new ones do not.
Wheel Seal I.D. : 2.625"
Wheel Seal O.D. : 3.628"
Wheel Seal Width : .375"
looks like yours are the thin ones too. Well..I'll use the ones sent and get the right ones next time I think about it. I think you overpaid though going through napa..1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Hunter S. Thompson .
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Napa is the only place around here that could cross the #s for me. $47 was cheaper then driving to next town and taking all day to find new seals. Gas and time cost more then $20. And yes me rear hurt a lot when I walked out of the Napa store. But gunbi refunded me for the seals.
Now get on with the project!!!!
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