how to tell the difference between a t-18 and a t-18a

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  • Gwamp
    High Tech Redneck
    • Mar 08, 2002
    • 4563

    how to tell the difference between a t-18 and a t-18a

    I have a t-18/D-20 combo that I am going to be selling and I am wanting to know which of hte T-18's I have. It is marked T18 1B on the case. Does this make it the closer ratio 4.02 first gear instead of the 6.32 granny geared T-18a?
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  • #2
    t-18-1b is the 4 to 1 rate

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    • Gwamp
      High Tech Redneck
      • Mar 08, 2002
      • 4563

      #3
      Originally posted by mandoneer:
      t-18-1b is the 4 to 1 rate
      thanks, that is what I thought. I just wanted to make sure.
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      • #4
        Ummm I would double check that, I have seen the 6.32 to 1 in the 1B case. Put it in 1st, T-Case in Hi, turn the t-case output once, count the trans input, 4 turns 4.02, 6 1/4 is the 6.32. If it came out of a FSJ, I would bet it to be a 6.32 to 1
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        • Knucklehead
          327 Rambler
          • Apr 10, 2002
          • 592

          #5
          Hey Gwamp, what do want for that set up?

          Jon
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          • #6
            I will check mine too I assumed that it was the 4 to 1 but who knows

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            • #7
              yep 4 turns

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              • #8
                http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html good info on a t-18

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                • Gwamp
                  High Tech Redneck
                  • Mar 08, 2002
                  • 4563

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Crazy_Jeepman:
                  Ummm I would double check that, I have seen the 6.32 to 1 in the 1B case. Put it in 1st, T-Case in Hi, turn the t-case output once, count the trans input, 4 turns 4.02, 6 1/4 is the 6.32. If it came out of a FSJ, I would bet it to be a 6.32 to 1
                  I will have to try that tomorrow to make sure. Thanks for the tip!
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                  • Gwamp
                    High Tech Redneck
                    • Mar 08, 2002
                    • 4563

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 66HD:
                    Hey Gwamp, what do want for that set up?

                    Jon
                    Probably $250. I just pulled it out and got it inside today. I need to open the cases up and make sure everything is in good shape. the tranny seems to shift fine in and out of gear. The T-case is sticky and needs to be "worked" a bit
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                    • Knucklehead
                      327 Rambler
                      • Apr 10, 2002
                      • 592

                      #11
                      Let me know what you find. I'm interested if I can figure out the shipping. You want a new th400 and high range q-trac?

                      Oh yeah, and what bell housing does that t-18 use (as jeep used about 14 different t-18s)

                      Jon

                      [ December 31, 2003, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: 66HD ]
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                      • scotty
                        • Jun 12, 2000
                        • 6627

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mandoneer:
                        t-18-1b is the 4 to 1 rate
                        the casting number has absolutely nothing to do with the ratio. both my t18(from behind a 360) and my friends t18(from behind a 6 cyl) are cast T18-1B as well,and both are the wide ratio-little over 6 1/4 turns in 1st. the only way to verify is to count the turns.

                        if the t18 is from a FSJ its prolly a wide ratio,i have never know a fsj to come with a 4:1,close ratio t18

                        if its from a cj,it doesnt really matter,cause the cj guys will pay big bucks for the short input shaft t18,regardless of the ratio [img]smile.gif[/img]

                        also,just a FYI, the link above has one bit of incorrect info- the 80+ t18/208 has a 31 spline output,not 23
                        scotty
                        85 grand wagoneer
                        258/t18/d20/10 bolt/14 bolt
                        38" TSL SXs
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by scotty:
                          </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mandoneer:
                          t-18-1b is the 4 to 1 rate
                          the casting number has absolutely nothing to do with the ratio. both my t18(from behind a 360) and my friends t18(from behind a 6 cyl) are cast T18-1B as well,and both are the wide ratio-little over 6 1/4 turns in 1st. the only way to verify is to count the turns.

                          if the t18 is from a FSJ its prolly a wide ratio,i have never know a fsj to come with a 4:1,close ratio t18

                          if its from a cj,it doesnt really matter,cause the cj guys will pay big bucks for the short input shaft t18,regardless of the ratio [img]smile.gif[/img]

                          also,just a FYI, the link above has one bit of incorrect info- the 80+ t18/208 has a 31 spline output,not 23
                          </font>[/QUOTE]Yup I agree, have seen the same, and have never ever pulled a 4 to 1 out of a FSJ, though that has only been a couple dozen over the years. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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                          • scotty
                            • Jun 12, 2000
                            • 6627

                            #14
                            now that i think about it,another friend has a t18 out of a 77 chero,from behind a 360 and its t18-1B as well. im pretty sure that even the t18/208 a friend is running in his xj from an 83 j20 is also cast the same.
                            scotty
                            85 grand wagoneer
                            258/t18/d20/10 bolt/14 bolt
                            38" TSL SXs
                            chopped,bobbed and caged

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                            • Grantshire
                              350 Buick
                              • Oct 16, 2002
                              • 827

                              #15
                              Weren't the T-18B's all the long shaft FSJ T18's? I have never seen one that didn't have a 6.32:1 first gear. Don't the CJ, Scout and Ford T-18's have short(er) shafts? I think it was some of the Scout T-18's that also came with the 4:1 ratio.
                              Richard

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