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  • charleslriddle
    230 Tornado
    • May 21, 2008
    • 15

    6.2 700r4 conversion in 88GW

    This is my story of the diesel conversion of the GW. I have many questions, and wanted to document the process on the forum so others can get answers to what I've posted. Building the knowledge base.

    Donor: 1991 GMC Suburban 6.2 diesel non turbo

    I've read all the threads for the past 2 years planning the great conversion.

    Below is a picture of the Donor towing the Donee, which is now stripped of the 360 and 727. I kept the np 229 and will use the novak adaptors.

    Thanks everyone in advance for your help!

    88 GW Black w/ Mint Maroon Interior (6.2 700r4 conversion in progress)


    Charles
  • charleslriddle
    230 Tornado
    • May 21, 2008
    • 15

    #2
    First Question - Fuel Lines Set Up

    The first thing I am thinking through is the fuel line set up. Can I use the lines sized as they are? Can I use rubber hose, braided flex line, or hard plumb the line? Where should I put the electric fuel pump? How should I wire the Fuel Pump? Do I need a safety shut off?

    Thanks
    88 GW Black w/ Mint Maroon Interior (6.2 700r4 conversion in progress)


    Charles

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    • joe
      • Apr 28, 2000
      • 22392

      #3
      Personally I'd keep the barn door dsl burb and shake off that thing hanging from it's butt.
      joe
      "Don't mind me. I'm just here for the alibi"

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      • Greeeeenberg
        232 I6
        • Sep 13, 2010
        • 32

        #4
        Agree with Joe. That burb looks clean.
        '87 Grand Wagoneer - 360
        '97 ZJ Orvis Edition - 318

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        • KaiserMan
          I got the Willys....
          • Jun 21, 2005
          • 8702

          #5
          Originally posted by joe
          Personally I'd keep the barn door dsl burb and shake off that thing hanging from it's butt.
          Hate to say it, but ditto. Unless that Suburban is a rotted train wreck in person, I'd drive the burb and find a drive train elsewhere.
          Thomas Russell
          1987 Cherokee Laredo 2-Door 4.0/AW4
          1971 Gladiator
          J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

          1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
          1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400

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          • #6
            My plan is to use the frame mounted lift pump and 3/8" hard line, but the stock 5/16 line would probably work good.
            Mark B. Jones

            Originally posted by GrandWag&Prix
            Actually, now that I think about it, that could be either awesome or really terrible.


            '79 Cherokee Chief "Junaluska"

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            • The PIG Smith
              King Browless

              Moderator
              • Nov 30, 2001
              • 6538

              #7
              Originally posted by KaiserMan
              Hate to say it, but ditto. Unless that Suburban is a rotted train wreck in person, I'd drive the burb and find a drive train elsewhere.
              X3
              If the Suburban is 3/4 ton rated, then by all means keep it, drive it and use it.

              I ran into this same issue with my Diesel powered van.
              Use the 6.2L from the van for a FSJ project or not.
              The van was in too good of shape to part out, so I fixed it and am now driving it.
              A one ton extended length cargo that sips Diesel fuel has been super handy.
              Bryan Smith
              2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
              - 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green
              1986 Jeep J20
              - Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line
              1982 Jeep J10
              - Has become a Long Term Project.
              1981 Jeep J20
              - Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
              1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
              - Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone

              IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001

              Originally posted by Jayrodoh
              ...but if it works, I wouldn't touch it.
              Originally posted by Lindel
              Best laid plans, yada yada yada...

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              • #8
                I failed to mention that my donor is a '97, so that is why it has an electric frame mounted lift pump. The lift pump on a 6.2 is typically a mechanical unit mounted to the block.
                Mark B. Jones

                Originally posted by GrandWag&Prix
                Actually, now that I think about it, that could be either awesome or really terrible.


                '79 Cherokee Chief "Junaluska"

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                • charleslriddle
                  230 Tornado
                  • May 21, 2008
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Burban Rotted

                  The suburban has 255000 miles on the chassis. I may keep it, but I'm definitely taking the 6.2 out of it. It was rebuilt and put in the suburban by a diesel mechanic - so I know it's good.

                  The suburban is 3/4 ton. Plus it has all kinds of upgrades. It was an off road paramedic truck. Put stock seats where the stretcher was. All kinds of interior lighting and switches.

                  This thing is rotted to sh it. So - It may go to parts when I'm finished. Unless I find another 6.2 to put back in it.

                  I towed the GW from the cuts of Philadelphia across many shady places about 40 miles away to my place, and the motor was strong. I'm stoked about putting this beast in the luxury of the GW.
                  88 GW Black w/ Mint Maroon Interior (6.2 700r4 conversion in progress)


                  Charles

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                  • The PIG Smith
                    King Browless

                    Moderator
                    • Nov 30, 2001
                    • 6538

                    #10
                    Originally posted by charleslriddle
                    I towed the GW from the cuts of Philadelphia across many shady places about 40 miles away to my place, and the motor was strong.
                    Do not let the naysayers beat you down.
                    The 6.2L in my van runs strong as well.
                    Bryan Smith
                    2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
                    - 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green
                    1986 Jeep J20
                    - Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line
                    1982 Jeep J10
                    - Has become a Long Term Project.
                    1981 Jeep J20
                    - Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
                    1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
                    - Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone

                    IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001

                    Originally posted by Jayrodoh
                    ...but if it works, I wouldn't touch it.
                    Originally posted by Lindel
                    Best laid plans, yada yada yada...

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                    • charleslriddle
                      230 Tornado
                      • May 21, 2008
                      • 15

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The PIG Smith
                      Do not let the naysayers beat you down.
                      The 6.2L in my van runs strong as well.

                      ... and The Legendary Pig Smith speaks. Heed his word!
                      88 GW Black w/ Mint Maroon Interior (6.2 700r4 conversion in progress)


                      Charles

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                      • charleslriddle
                        230 Tornado
                        • May 21, 2008
                        • 15

                        #12
                        Fuel Set Up - Plan

                        OK- Here is my plan for the diesel swap fuel set up.

                        The lines (feed and return) run up the drivers side rail on the GW. The 6.2 needs them on the passenger side. I thought about redoing all the lines and running them up the pass side, but I'm not going to do that. I'm using the existing lines - connecting where they terminate in the engine bay - and crossing over (probably with rubber fuel lines) under the radiator crossmember.

                        Any objections or comments to running rubber fuel hose along that radiator crossmsmber to get it over to pass side?

                        I'm also going to set up an electrical fuel pump in the inside frame behind the gas tank in the area of the GW spare tire bay.

                        I'm not 100% about taking the mechanical fuel pump out of service. I may run a loop around the electrical pump so the mechanical pump does not have to suck through the electrical pump. I'm looking into a fuel check valve for the loop so the electrical pump does not short circuit through the bypass.

                        I may just use the electric pump to prime / bleed the fuel system clamping off the bypass when priming. Then normal duty i'll open the bypass and let the mechanical pump do it's job. Leaving the electrical pump off.
                        88 GW Black w/ Mint Maroon Interior (6.2 700r4 conversion in progress)


                        Charles

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                        • rustywagoneers_com
                          304 AMC
                          • Feb 02, 2006
                          • 2334

                          #13
                          Electric pump for the win.
                          There is no way to rule innocent men.
                          The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
                          Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them.
                          One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

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                          • budojeepr
                            350 Buick
                            • Feb 02, 2006
                            • 933

                            #14
                            Diesel fuel rots rubber. Get the best quality (fuel injection) hose you can afford.
                            Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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                            • charleslriddle
                              230 Tornado
                              • May 21, 2008
                              • 15

                              #15
                              Fuel Lines

                              10-4 on the rubber fuel injection line $6/ft.
                              88 GW Black w/ Mint Maroon Interior (6.2 700r4 conversion in progress)


                              Charles

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