New Prothane Body Mounts Kit?

[Graphics360]

Prothane

I spoke with Prothane and they said that they are unaware of their kit not fitting any early Wagoneer's. Bo in R&D wants me to stop by so that he can see how my mounts are. I informed him that there are several threads over many years complaining about this issue and he was shocked. I plan on stopping by there this week and will post what they say. I'm hoping that they will be willing to make a new kit for 63-75. (Sounds like those are the years in questions) Correct me if I'm wrong.

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[TPICherokee]

I spoke with Prothane and they said that they are unaware of their kit not fitting any early Wagoneer's. Bo in R&D wants me to stop by so that he can see how my mounts are. I informed him that there are several threads over many years complaining about this issue and he was shocked. I plan on stopping by there this week and will post what they say. I'm hoping that they will be willing to make a new kit for 63-75. (Sounds like those are the years in questions) Correct me if I'm wrong.

1963-1973 are easy, just plain pucks

1974-1975 are the oddball, Jeep shows a different part number for them and I haven't had one of those years to check and see what's the difference.

I am guessing that about 8 years ago we told Prothane that the core support mounts were different and in their kits they just supply the same mounts for everything, they didn't seem to care which is why we stopped selling their kits.

[Graphics360]

Thanks for the reply.

I've rebuilt my 84 Scrambler and have had about every model there is, but I'm new to the Wagoneer world. Learning as I go. Do the bolts for the older puck style bushings go through the tub and down through the frame with a nut on the bottom? This is how mine is. If I took some photos, would you be able to tell me if the older style pucks would work with mine?
Thanks.

[TPICherokee]

Thanks for the reply.

I've rebuilt my 84 Scrambler and have had about every model there is, but I'm new to the Wagoneer world. Learning as I go. Do the bolts for the older puck style bushings go through the tub and down through the frame with a nut on the bottom? This is how mine is. If I took some photos, would you be able to tell me if the older style pucks would work with mine?
Thanks.

Here are the 63-73 Mounts

http://www.bjsoffroad.com/Rubber-Body-Bushing-Kit-1963-1973-Wagoneer_p_177.html

[bkilby]

Thanks for the reply.

I've rebuilt my 84 Scrambler and have had about every model there is, but I'm new to the Wagoneer world. Learning as I go. Do the bolts for the older puck style bushings go through the tub and down through the frame with a nut on the bottom? This is how mine is. If I took some photos, would you be able to tell me if the older style pucks would work with mine?
Thanks.

My '74 was the same way. IIRC, there are 3 different size holes in the frame so your body bushing need a shoulder, 3 different sizes to go through the frame holes. I ended up reaming the holes out to the bushings I went with. I still dropped the bolts down from the top and used a washer and nut on the bottom. I mentioned this here somewhere.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=178154&page=3

[Heep-J4000]

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That dog looks like he has a hard life!


For my 73'J4000 truck i made rubber pucks from a piece of a conveyer belt
made a hollow punch tool from a piece of big radius pipe and hit it with a hammer to cut out the round pieces ,made them nice on a belt sanding machine and drilled a hole through them and stacked them together for using them as body mounts.

[acct21]

I spoke with Prothane and they said that they are unaware of their kit not fitting any early Wagoneer's. Bo in R&D wants me to stop by so that he can see how my mounts are. I informed him that there are several threads over many years complaining about this issue and he was shocked. I plan on stopping by there this week and will post what they say. I'm hoping that they will be willing to make a new kit for 63-75. (Sounds like those are the years in questions) Correct me if I'm wrong.

I had a miscommunication with Alcan on some custom leaf springs they built a few years back -- the spring eyes were bent to a different diameter -- so none of the off-the-shelf bushing kits would work. Had about an hour phone call with R&D at Prothane, and they explained how I could piece together a full kit of spring eye bushings. I don't remember any names, but they were beyond helpful -- one guy told me if I had to I could just send measurements and they "had something that would fit" -- even if it was for another application entirely.

Seems like if enough of the '74-'75 owners reached out to them they could get this sorted out once and for all.

[Graphics360]

Great News!

I just stopped by Prothane and met with Bo in product development. (nice guy) He looked at the original mounts on my 74 and we talked a bit about the years that their kit (1-106) doesn't fit. It's listed as fitting 63-91, but we know that's not true. He realizes there is an issue, but all of the wagoneer guys that he has spoken with are on the east coast and the ones that are local aren't willing to leave their vehicle with them to create the new mounts. So I've volunteered my wagon to them for a 3-4 week period in order to get a kit created for all of the older wagons.

He is asking me to reach out to all of you and try and pin point the years the 1-106 won't fit. I think it's 63-75, but I'm not sure. Can you guys chime in and let me know what years you think have the old puck style like mine? Mine has the plugs in the cabin floors that you need to open in order to access the top of the bolts. The nuts are on the bottom under the vehicle.

Thanks!

[TPICherokee]

He is asking me to reach out to all of you and try and pin point the years the 1-106 won't fit. I think it's 63-75, but I'm not sure. Can you guys chime in and let me know what years you think have the old puck style like mine? Mine has the plugs in the cabin floors that you need to open in order to access the top of the bolts. The nuts are on the bottom under the vehicle.

Thanks!

1974-1975

If you read the previous posts there is a link to the 1963-1973 bushings which are just a rubber puck and are readily available in polyurethane.

[Graphics360]

I understand that, but the Prothane kit (1-106) says 63-91, which is not true. They want to make a kit based on the puck style like my 74. Are you saying that the puck style that I have is different than the 63-73 puck style? 74-75 is completely different than the other years?

[TPICherokee]

I understand that, but the Prothane kit (1-106) says 63-91, which is not true. They want to make a kit based on the puck style like my 74. Are you saying that the puck style that I have is different than the 63-73 puck style? 74-75 is completely different than the other years?

They carry a different part number than the 63-73. If they are the same, it's easy but I suspect they are different.

[TPICherokee]

Take some pics of yours and post them up.. It's been a long time since I've looked at 74-75 mounts.

[Graphics360]

Does the 63-73 have the bolts going from the cabin down threw the body, frame and mount with the nuts at the bottom? Strange that Jeep would have a different body mount system for only 2 years.

[Graphics360]

My 74 mounts

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[bkilby]

Hey Graphics360, you want my old body bushings from my '74? I've already replaced them and don't need them. I'll be happy to contribute to the cause. If you want them, just PM me your address and I'll ship them out. Those rear four are funky and me thinks they're going to want a good set.