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  • tomd
    304 AMC
    • May 04, 2002
    • 1826

    Headlight Relay Harness

    Finally got around to making a headlight harness, so figured i'd throw some pics up. Next up will be attacking the mess of wiring underhood haha.


    Picked up some ceramic headlight plugs


    And some relays and pigtails


    Mounted the relays behind the front valence


    Voltage at battery while engine is running (now we'll show why i did this)


    Voltage at Passenger headlight with stock wiring (Passenger since its furthest in the harness)


    Voltage at Drivers headlight with new relayed wiring (Drivers since its furthest in the harness)


    Kept original wiring as a backup for now so zip tied new loom along the stock one

    Works great, haven't actually driven it like this but the numbers show a significant benefit! Let me know if you guys have any questions

    Next project
    71 J-4000 on a 76 Cherokee chassis with homemade flatbed
    360/Th400/PT QT/3.07 D44s
  • dbabicky
    258 I6
    • Dec 31, 2011
    • 339

    #2
    I did the same to mine except I cheated.................I bought mine complete for $29 from LMC.
    1975 J-10,360,TH400,QT,
    1998 Wrangler,TJ,4.0L,5spd
    2000 Chevy K3500,454 Auto
    2009 GMC Canyon,3.7,Auto, 2.5" lift/leveling kit
    all with a looney DAV behind the wheel.
    "Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill"

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    • tomd
      304 AMC
      • May 04, 2002
      • 1826

      #3
      Originally posted by dbabicky
      I did the same to mine except I cheated.................I bought mine complete for $29 from LMC.
      Hehe i thought about doing that but i have enough other wiring to work on i figured it was a good start
      71 J-4000 on a 76 Cherokee chassis with homemade flatbed
      360/Th400/PT QT/3.07 D44s

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      • serehill
        Gone,Never Forgotten.
        • Nov 22, 2009
        • 8619

        #4
        Looks good

        A lot better than the chinese single relay junkers. I had nothing but trouble with them. The double relay allows redundancy. The single relay chinese ones when the relay goes out your're done. Try to find one LOL. The relay goes out on the one you still have lights. Replacement at any Mc parts store. Besides the better light from this set up.

        Last edited by serehill; 11-27-2012, 04:47 PM.

        80 Cherokee
        360 ci 727 with
        Comp cams 270 h
        NP208
        Edlebrock performer intake
        Holley 4180
        Msd total multi spark.
        4" rusty's springs
        Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

        If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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        • Lindel
          Perfesser of Jeepology
          • Jun 15, 2000
          • 9205

          #5
          I did that with my TJ last week, along with the E-code/H4 upgrade. An amazing difference in the amount of light.

          I eventually plan to do it with the waggie too.
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          1987 Grand Wagoneer
          AMC 360/TF727/NP229
          1999 Wrangler Sport
          4.0L/AX-15/NV231


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          • tomd
            304 AMC
            • May 04, 2002
            • 1826

            #6
            I have ordered up some H4 housings and bulbs too, excited to see the difference between setups
            71 J-4000 on a 76 Cherokee chassis with homemade flatbed
            360/Th400/PT QT/3.07 D44s

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            • dbabicky
              258 I6
              • Dec 31, 2011
              • 339

              #7
              Originally posted by serehill
              A lot better than the chinese single relay junkers. I had nothing but trouble with them. The double relay allows redundancy. The single relay chinese ones when the relay goes out your're done. Try to find one LOL. The relay goes out on the one you still have lights. Replacement at any Mc parts store. Besides the better light from this set up.

              Th one from LMC is the dual relay, USA made. Very well constructed.
              1975 J-10,360,TH400,QT,
              1998 Wrangler,TJ,4.0L,5spd
              2000 Chevy K3500,454 Auto
              2009 GMC Canyon,3.7,Auto, 2.5" lift/leveling kit
              all with a looney DAV behind the wheel.
              "Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill"

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              • Jeep'rs Creep'rs
                232 I6
                • Jun 14, 2011
                • 73

                #8
                Originally posted by dbabicky
                I did the same to mine except I cheated.................I bought mine complete for $29 from LMC.
                care to expand on this statement? i only see chevy, ford, dodge and gmc on their website...
                1990 Grand Wagoneer, stock (so far)
                "Crate" 360 w/ 7K miles

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                • tomd
                  304 AMC
                  • May 04, 2002
                  • 1826

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jeep'rs Creep'rs
                  care to expand on this statement? i only see chevy, ford, dodge and gmc on their website...
                  A headlight harness is going to be fairly generic, but i would be curious what model was used.
                  71 J-4000 on a 76 Cherokee chassis with homemade flatbed
                  360/Th400/PT QT/3.07 D44s

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                  • serehill
                    Gone,Never Forgotten.
                    • Nov 22, 2009
                    • 8619

                    #10
                    Not really generic in quality but in design they are

                    Originally posted by tomd
                    A headlight harness is going to be fairly generic, but i would be curious what model was used.
                    What seperates the toys from the good ones are good wiring ,relays that are quality & good porcelain sockets. There's no doubt that this is an area where getting what you don't pay for can burn you. The newer lights get really hot Plastic sockets don't last long. They get very brittle. Maybe with stock lights you can get a few years out of them they should at the very least be bakelight.

                    The wiring burnt up on one of my harnesses at the bulb from what looked like the metal connector became loose from the bulb terminal. The socket melted & eventually blew the fuse. That happened with silverstar bulbs. That melted the socket & about 8" of the wire before it shorted.

                    An important point to make is I use my headlights a lot probably average usage would be less of an issue. After sitting in Panama Florida waiting for a parts place to open. I decided No more cheapies. That was my 3 rd harness. I 'm now approaching the building of 200 of these without issue. I know what a good one would cost.





                    Tomd has the right stuff.
                    Super duty fuse holder/ Actually circuit breaker in this case. Beats nylon inline fuse holder.
                    Right wire size
                    High quality accessible relays
                    Porcelain sockets


                    How much do you have in your harness tomd ??

                    I'm sure these are not the exact ones because these are not H-4. I couldn't find them but they probably have them. With shipping would probably put cost nearer the 40 dollar range.
                    Shop from thousands of parts and accessories to help you restore, maintain, and customize your Chevrolet, GMC, Dodge or Ford truck or SUV. Keep 'em on the road with the right part, right price, right now.
                    Last edited by serehill; 11-28-2012, 08:58 AM.

                    80 Cherokee
                    360 ci 727 with
                    Comp cams 270 h
                    NP208
                    Edlebrock performer intake
                    Holley 4180
                    Msd total multi spark.
                    4" rusty's springs
                    Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

                    If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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                    • dbabicky
                      258 I6
                      • Dec 31, 2011
                      • 339

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jeep'rs Creep'rs
                      care to expand on this statement? i only see chevy, ford, dodge and gmc on their website...
                      I used the one for an 82 Chevy K30 with just the 2 headlight system. There all pretty generic as stated above. If the harness is built for a 2 headlight system it's gonna work. I origanally had installed it on the 82 K30, but sold the truck before I completed it. I had purchased the J-10 and removed the harness off the K30 before I sold it and installed it on my 75 J-10.
                      1975 J-10,360,TH400,QT,
                      1998 Wrangler,TJ,4.0L,5spd
                      2000 Chevy K3500,454 Auto
                      2009 GMC Canyon,3.7,Auto, 2.5" lift/leveling kit
                      all with a looney DAV behind the wheel.
                      "Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill"

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                      • tomd
                        304 AMC
                        • May 04, 2002
                        • 1826

                        #12
                        Originally posted by serehill
                        How much do you have in your harness tomd ??
                        About $23 plus shipping for the parts i ordered from Rockauto, and a couple more bucks for ring terminals/heatshrink/solder.

                        My dad questioned if i considered these relays accessible, and while it requires the removal of the headlight bucket to change them (if my grille is on), i feel thats acceptable for my usage. I'm trying to clean up some of the underhood clutter.

                        Drove the jeep last night and holy crap thats an improvement! Ordered up some inexpensive H4 housings and bulbs as well so should be set for a while
                        Last edited by tomd; 11-28-2012, 12:28 PM.
                        71 J-4000 on a 76 Cherokee chassis with homemade flatbed
                        360/Th400/PT QT/3.07 D44s

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                        • serehill
                          Gone,Never Forgotten.
                          • Nov 22, 2009
                          • 8619

                          #13
                          agree

                          It's the best place for the relays. 23 in everything is way cheap. Does that include everything wire ETC????

                          I'm using the best of everything & spending more than that in volume.

                          I suppose they are as generic as a kia & a lexus are cars.
                          Last edited by serehill; 11-28-2012, 12:44 PM.

                          80 Cherokee
                          360 ci 727 with
                          Comp cams 270 h
                          NP208
                          Edlebrock performer intake
                          Holley 4180
                          Msd total multi spark.
                          4" rusty's springs
                          Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

                          If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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                          • tomd
                            304 AMC
                            • May 04, 2002
                            • 1826

                            #14
                            Originally posted by serehill
                            It's the best place for the relays. 23 in everything is way cheap. Does that include everything wire ETC????
                            eBay stuff:
                            $6 Relays and pigtails (I bought extras for other projects)
                            $6.29 Cermamic Headlight Plugs
                            Rockauto stuff:
                            $2.45 20A Bussman Breaker
                            $2.01 12gau Red 12ft
                            $2.01 12gau Yellow 12ft
                            $2.01 12gau Black 12ft
                            + shipping
                            Lowes stuff:
                            $2.60 Split loom
                            $.90 Self drilling Screws

                            Wire was on closeout on rockauto and i had over half of it leftover.
                            71 J-4000 on a 76 Cherokee chassis with homemade flatbed
                            360/Th400/PT QT/3.07 D44s

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                            • serehill
                              Gone,Never Forgotten.
                              • Nov 22, 2009
                              • 8619

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tomd
                              eBay stuff:
                              $6 Relays and pigtails (I bought extras for other projects)
                              $6.29 Cermamic Headlight Plugs
                              Rockauto stuff:
                              $2.45 20A Bussman Breaker
                              $2.01 12gau Red 12ft
                              $2.01 12gau Yellow 12ft
                              $2.01 12gau Black 12ft
                              + shipping
                              Lowes stuff:
                              $2.60 Split loom
                              $.90 Self drilling Screws

                              Wire was on closeout on rockauto and i had over half of it leftover.
                              U did good

                              80 Cherokee
                              360 ci 727 with
                              Comp cams 270 h
                              NP208
                              Edlebrock performer intake
                              Holley 4180
                              Msd total multi spark.
                              4" rusty's springs
                              Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

                              If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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