Serehill's tailgate harness

[men in black]

If you can't find anybody else, I can help.

I've been an industrial electrician for over 35 years.

[johnsonic]

I'm in the same boat. Totally crappy situation, but would really like to see my $144 again & haven't heard anything in over a month.

[Kaiserjeeps]

I'm in the same boat. Totally crappy situation, but would really like to see my $144 again & haven't heard anything in over a month.

Hang tight Johnsonic. I bet you will either get your money back or get a product eventually. I bet the family is still sorting out the situation. My dad also died unexpectedly on August 19 and I am still trying to wade through an incredible mess. It will work itself out. It will no doubt take some time though.


And thank you Men in Black. I am more than capable in making a harness. But hoped to save time by buying 2 of them. One for my current build and one for my personal rig. It also would be a big shame to see the work go away. Even if it meant posting the electrical diagram, that alone would save a lot of time for others.

I'll put on my patience hat and hope for the best.

[jeepyjpsu]

If you can't find anybody else, I can help.

I've been an industrial electrician for over 35 years.

Just checking back to see if there's any chance of a diagram.

men in black, I have a rough sketch of what I was thinking and have most of the parts. If nothing else, I'll PM it to you and get your thoughts. I'm no electrician, but I think it shows what my thought process is. Thanks for your help.

[Curly5759]

Just checking back to see if there's any chance of a diagram.

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1st post

http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13549

[Kaiserjeeps]

Thanks for posting. I was just about to order stuff from Susquehanna motor sports for this. They have nice 40 amp relays for this there. I have the parts for the headlight system already.
The schematic will speed it up some.
Again thanks.

[Pillow]

Thanks Curly for posting the link! Def on my to-d or to-buy list depending.

[turtlehead]

Hey all!

I installed my harness and never got around to actually plugging a window motor into it.

Finally installed my original window motor - it kinda worked slowly for 5-10 seconds then died.

I just assumed the OLD motor was had - couldn't ever get it to move again.

So, I bought a new/refurbished motor, installed it, powered it on, same thing... ran REALLY SLOW/weak (without the window installed, just on the arms) and within 5-10 seconds it died. I removed it from the bracket/arms/gears - plugged it in and tried to run it without any of that stuff - and the motor wouldn't respond at all.

I have a feeling something is wrong with the wiring and it's frying the electric motor.

Any suggestions/ideas??

Here's a photo of the harness/wiring installed without the motor:
I installed the two red wires in terminals 1 and 2 opposite of the blue wires - I'm 99% sure that's correct, but also wondering if that's where I went wrong?

[babywag]

What motor are you using the early one, or the later style?

I ask because the early ones have a dedicated ground, the motor polarity is on separate wires. Meaning one wire is up and the other is down...neither is connected to ground!

The newer motors work by reversing polarity on two wires, and do not have a dedicated ground.

If you have it wired/setup for the newer motor, and you're using the older motor it will not work and you'll likely toast the motor.

[turtlehead]

I'm not positive on the motor... the shop gave me one that is meant for a 72 Wagoneer Tailgate window.

But... it could be wrong?

It's a 2 wire motor - I believe some were 3 wires?

But... are you saying that even with 2 wires, it may still matter which wire goes to which post?

[babywag]

On the early motors only one wire/connection @ time gets 12v+
They do NOT get negative on other wire.
One wire/side is up the other wire/side is down.

The late model motors one wire gets 12v+ and other gets ground.
Reversing the polarity makes the motor go opposite direction.

[turtlehead]

You rock...

So, I am a total noob on this stuff...

How would I go about testing the motor to see what is correct?

And, how do I compare that against the wiring in this harness?

Thanks!

[babywag]

post pic motor? showing wire connection terminals.

[SJTD]

Early motors are three wire, with one wire permanently grounded, no?

Should be obvious which he has.

[turtlehead]

just realized the photo I have is of the original motor, I'm waiting for the replacement from the store. Should have it by tomorrow.