Leaf Spring anchor point install ?

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  • Rusty76
    258 I6
    • Jul 15, 2018
    • 331

    Leaf Spring anchor point install ?

    Hello Team FSJ:
    I'm about to jump in and install my 3 inch spring lift kit.
    First I need to cut out old front anchor points and weld in new ones.
    Just to save some time and lower the high potential for mistake I figured might be a good idea to run my plan passed a few folks. So this is for the front leaf springs. MY plan is to attach the new leaf at the front shackle and bolt in the U bolts to the plate. With the new spring leaf anchor point attached I will jack up axle until the new anchor reaches the frame. At this point it should be in the right position and I can either tack it in with some weld, remove spring from anchor and finish the weld or just finish the weld with the spring attached.
    I hope this is making some sense? I sent a pictures of the old one. Thanks for the help!

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    Rebuilt, 360, TH400, QT.
    Still not running. Soon!
  • wiley-moeracing
    350 Buick
    • Feb 15, 2010
    • 1430

    #2
    Ugg! cut that out of there! Good that you have new hangers., Assuming that the originals are in the correct position,just mark the frame location and weld in the new ones.

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    • Rusty76
      258 I6
      • Jul 15, 2018
      • 331

      #3
      Ok thanks. I guess I'm making this to be more of a big deal then it needs to be.
      I can narrow it down pretty close to where the PO cut them out.

      These are the good ones! You should have seen the rear.
      1976 Jeep Wagoneer
      Rebuilt, 360, TH400, QT.
      Still not running. Soon!

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      • bkilby
        350 Buick
        • Jan 10, 2016
        • 1083

        #4
        That hanger looks too far back. It shouldn't be under the body mount. It should be in front. Do you see a hole where the rivet would have gone through the side?
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        • SJTD
          304 AMC
          • Apr 26, 2012
          • 1956

          #5
          Seems like a good time to move the shackles to the back.

          But if not, where they are exactly isn't as important as them being the same on both sides. Would bug the heck outta me if the shackles were at different angles.
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          • babywag
            out of order
            • Jun 08, 2005
            • 10288

            #6
            Originally posted by bkilby
            That hanger looks too far back. It shouldn't be under the body mount. It should be in front. Do you see a hole where the rivet would have gone through the side?
            Looks ~stock location for '76-up ?

            Tony
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            • Rusty76
              258 I6
              • Jul 15, 2018
              • 331

              #7
              Ok thanks. I'm at work right now so can confirm but looking at my picture of current set up and comparing it to babywags pic it looks to me like I can see the rivet still attached on my rig. This will help. Thanks for the help and pictures.
              1976 Jeep Wagoneer
              Rebuilt, 360, TH400, QT.
              Still not running. Soon!

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              • Kaiserjeeps
                360 AMC
                • Oct 02, 2002
                • 2811

                #8
                Double check your spring hanger to make sure you have the correct end forward. You probably do, but check it so your axle ends up in the correct spot.
                It looked off to me but I am probably confusing it with a rear hanging shackle set up. I think you are keeping the shackle up front so it is most likely my mistake.
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                • Rusty76
                  258 I6
                  • Jul 15, 2018
                  • 331

                  #9
                  Hmmm just noticed my front passenger side is missing the axle spring perch
                  Im guessing not normal
                  1976 Jeep Wagoneer
                  Rebuilt, 360, TH400, QT.
                  Still not running. Soon!

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                  • bkilby
                    350 Buick
                    • Jan 10, 2016
                    • 1083

                    #10
                    Originally posted by babywag
                    Looks ~stock location for '76-up ?





                    Wow. Ok, never mind then. Lol. My '74 is farther forward than that. I didn't realize they moved them in different years.
                    1974 Cherokee S. It's driving but needs more work. As usual!

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                    • bkilby
                      350 Buick
                      • Jan 10, 2016
                      • 1083

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SJTD
                      Seems like a good time to move the shackles to the back.

                      But if not, where they are exactly isn't as important as them being the same on both sides. Would bug the heck outta me if the shackles were at different angles.


                      If they aren't the same on both sides, you're going to have an axle that is crooked. That being the anchor end is what dictates where your axle is located.
                      1974 Cherokee S. It's driving but needs more work. As usual!

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                      • SJTD
                        304 AMC
                        • Apr 26, 2012
                        • 1956

                        #12
                        That would bug me too.

                        I hadn't thought of that. It's an even better reason to get them right.
                        Sic friatur crustulum

                        '84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.

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                        • rang-a-stang
                          Administrator
                          • Oct 31, 2016
                          • 5512

                          #13
                          If you look at this picture you can see the original rivet is still there. It looks like the previous hack...er I mean owner, took a cut off wheel, cut the mount eyelet open, and pried if off the rivet. You can see the cut off wheel mark on both the rivet head and the spring mount (I marked them in red on your picture. If you look at the spring perch, you can see the rivet is directly above the spring bolt.

                          So, iffen it were me, I would take a square and weld the perch on directly so your new spring eylet is below that rivet, tilted to the angle of the chassis (see my yellow lines).


                          Originally posted by Rusty76
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                          • wiley-moeracing
                            350 Buick
                            • Feb 15, 2010
                            • 1430

                            #14
                            Sorry, that's wrong, you need to use a weighted string and drop straight down from original spring mount hole and locate the new spring mount hole in that location, then measure to the front spring mount on both sides so they are the same and then across to each side to make sure there are square.

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                            • rang-a-stang
                              Administrator
                              • Oct 31, 2016
                              • 5512

                              #15
                              No need to say sorry! You know a whole lot better than I do!!! Probably why my rig sucks so bad!!
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