t18 to ford 205

[Hammer]

Well, you can run the Ford T18 or NP435, but you are have to use the short input shaft and JUST the bellhousing.

It isn't really that hard to bend the shifter and cut a new hole for it.
It's actually VERY easy.
And in my book, not enough of a reason to not do the swap.
Spend the spacer money on a doubler

[Bill Moore]

does the ford t18 and np435 have the same bolt up to the bell housing?

[Hammer]

Yeah, the T15 and T18 BHs work fine. Some need to have one hole drilled, but that's easy.

[Elliott]

Aren't there some output shaft length issues with the 208 vs. the 205, though? Seems like Scotty had discussed this a long while back....


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Hmm, the on the Ford NP435 I think the shaft was the same between the 208 version and the 205 version tranny, but the adaptor for the 208 was an inch shorter so you'd have more stickout. Might have to add a spacer or cut the shaft down. I think Scotty cut the shaft down and lengthed the splines on it... IIRC, or somebody did.
I'll be getting to this before long here, 'cept I'm modifying the adaptor to mate to a GM 205 using the Ford input.

Bill,
As far as the bell housing goes, if you use a T176 bell the bolt holes match up.

[scotty]

ha ha im back! the discussion yall are remembering is regarding sticking a ford 205 onto the rear of a jeep t18 in place of the 208. the 208 and 205 have different stickouts on the input gear,leaving very little spline contact in the 205 gear when you slide it on. a friend of mine actually took a 2nd 205 input gear and welded them together and smoothed it all out real nice. it worked,and has worked for several years now. it could have also prolly been dealt with by tracking down or fabbing a shorter tranny to t case adapter.

on the matter at hand,sounds like yall have figured it out. im with hammer-just stick the whole jeep t18/20 into a corner in case you ever need it for something else(or i guess sell it to help finance the project) and swap in the ford 435/205,or even a ford t18/208 if you come across one of them cheap enuff.

the 4 inches your shifter will move forward really isnt that big a deal,and a ford reverse cut 60 is a plenty good reason to do it

[shackwrrr]

what if you used a ford t-18 and put one of these

http://www.high-impact.net/rangeroverdrive.htm

in front of it that would take care of the spacer problem. Its probably what I am going to do once if I can ever afford the setup

[Bill Moore]

yup, love to have a couple of those

[Hammer]

what if you used a ford t-18 and put one of these

http://www.high-impact.net/rangeroverdrive.htm

in front of it that would take care of the spacer problem. Its probably what I am going to do once if I can ever afford the setup

I have the older/stronger Ranger OD with the iron case.
I have a Ford T18, fresh rebuild. 6 bolt adapter.

They are both just sitting.
I also have a GM NP205 with the 8 bolt racetrack pattern adapter and 27 spline male input.
I DO have the Ford 31 spline female input for the tcase, but even if I machine the tcase to take the bigger input, I still don't have a way to bolt the T18 to the NP205.

I have also though about a doubler setup, but this combo has been causing me headaches to figure out... So I will ignore it a little while longer

[Hammer]

Oh yeah, with the RC Ford 60 in there, your front drive shaft angles might be ok if you only bolt the ford tranny directly to the BH.
Not sure on that one, but the extra height of the pinion can only help with this problem.

[toyjeep]

what if you used a ford t-18 and put one of these

http://www.high-impact.net/rangeroverdrive.htm

in front of it that would take care of the spacer problem. Its probably what I am going to do once if I can ever afford the setup

Unless you are going for he 27% OD model for highway use, that seems like a phenomenol amount of money for 17% under drive.

[4x4fEvEr]

on the matter at hand,sounds like yall have figured it out. im with hammer-just stick the whole jeep t18/20 into a corner in case you ever need it for something else(or i guess sell it to help finance the project) and swap in the ford 435/205,or even a ford t18/208 if you come across one of them cheap enuff.

the 4 inches your shifter will move forward really isnt that big a deal,and a ford reverse cut 60 is a plenty good reason to do it

im pretty sure you cant mate anything to a jeep t-18. $500 bucks to adapt a dana 300. not sure about a 205. sell it and buy a NP435 easiest way.

i agree. im runnin a 435/205 works great and was an easy swap

Oh yeah, with the RC Ford 60 in there, your front drive shaft angles might be ok if you only bolt the ford tranny directly to the BH.
Not sure on that one, but the extra height of the pinion can only help with this problem.

yes it does help but i still had to run a CV off the 205 and could use some 2degree shims as well, thats with rancho 44044 springs SOA though

[Hammer]

Yeah, but running a CV on the front is just about a given anyways.
The rear shaft sees the MOST abuse, so give it the better angles, etc.

And yeah, you have a bit more lift then most (not all, just most).

[Elliott]

ha ha im back! the discussion yall are remembering is regarding sticking a ford 205 onto the rear of a jeep t18 in place of the 208. the 208 and 205 have different stickouts on the input gear,leaving very little spline contact in the 205 gear when you slide it on. a friend of mine actually took a 2nd 205 input gear and welded them together and smoothed it all out real nice. it worked,and has worked for several years now. it could have also prolly been dealt with by tracking down or fabbing a shorter tranny to t case adapter.

Thanks for that... I'll look into this on mine and see if I can just shorten up the aluminum adaptor to get the spline length.