just a idea i am toying with at the moment since my tranny is going to be out of the jeep anyways and my dad brought it up what all would it take to convert to manual like 435 or similar? I do like the auto we do alot of climbing long steap slops and there tend to be mini ponds scattered through out the middle of our trails here year round so the auto is nice for chewing through it but i really dont want to have to worry about chewing through another trans
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Tf 727 is a strong Trans With a rebuild and a good cooler you wont kill it for a long Time
But if you doing a swap you'll need the clutch pedel and Lever assembly and possable different Driveshafts depend on what case your use a flywheel for you engines and a TransLast edited by mattmopar440; 03-10-2010, 02:18 PM.87' Grand Wagoneer
401/727/229, Currently:RUNNING
84 J10/20 hybrid 258/727/208 Daily Driver
80' J10 4BT/AX-15/208
74' J10 Go Grabber Green Sold
Originally posted by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81Inferior Chevy
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Well if you take the trans out see what some local shops will do a bench rebuild for then price up a trans swap and see which ones cheaper87' Grand Wagoneer
401/727/229, Currently:RUNNING
84 J10/20 hybrid 258/727/208 Daily Driver
80' J10 4BT/AX-15/208
74' J10 Go Grabber Green Sold
Originally posted by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81Inferior Chevy
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I was just looking for a way to be lazy and put a lighter tranny back in lol
actually just thought the info would be good to know in general. Has anyone actually swapping in a manual in place of a auto?FREE 91 grand wagoneer 360 2barrel 4" lift 31" tires rebuilt tranny and tcase dana 44 front and rear
TFI upgrade
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there is a lot of good info on here about swapping. Search for a Ax-15 swap. Should come up with some info. I'm in the process of the swap but havent made much progress yet. My main reason for the swap is to have a taller set of gears to work with. 3 speed dont give ya much options.'65 J300 Thriftside, Cummins Tow Rig (Sittin' in the field)
'97 Tj 4.6L Stroker, locked, and rock rashed (Current DD)
'86 Waggy, 360, Ax-15, Np231 (For Sale)
'04 CBR 600RR, (Got to drive something fast)
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The main problem with a swap like the NP435 is that the shifter will come through the floor under the dash. The Jeep V8 transmissions have a long adapter that moves the shifter location back. The stalk can be bent so you can reach it.
Not much difference between the NP435 and the Jeep T-18 ... if you can find a donor, take all the pieces you need from it.Tim Reese
Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
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Originally posted by J300Zackthere is a lot of good info on here about swapping. Search for a Ax-15 swap.87' Grand Wagoneer
401/727/229, Currently:RUNNING
84 J10/20 hybrid 258/727/208 Daily Driver
80' J10 4BT/AX-15/208
74' J10 Go Grabber Green Sold
Originally posted by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81Inferior Chevy
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Originally posted by mattmopar440AX-15 use a hydro Clutch
This is the #1 reason I have swayed away from the swap...it would just be another needed mod...and added $$$...83 J-10 Jeep "Oscar"
360/727/229
4" Rusty's w/33X12.50 BFG AT's
I'll apologize ahead of time...my inner voice has Tourette's...
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Originally posted by ralf??? The AX 15 has the slave either internally (bad idea) or externally on the bell housing. How would that interfere with brakes?
It uses a Hydro clutch so you would have to convert you master to have one also and find a brake peddle AssemblyLast edited by mattmopar440; 03-12-2010, 08:59 PM.87' Grand Wagoneer
401/727/229, Currently:RUNNING
84 J10/20 hybrid 258/727/208 Daily Driver
80' J10 4BT/AX-15/208
74' J10 Go Grabber Green Sold
Originally posted by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81Inferior Chevy
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I completed the swap last summer. Swapped out the 727 for a T18. I spent the time to find the correct donor parts and can say for a fact it is a very easy swap if you go with and gather the Jeep parts. My truck is an 1983.
I my case I wanted all the stock parts for the conversion which for me included finding a manual tilt steering column, pedal assembly, linkage, and of course a t18 with stock adapter, bell housing, linkage, etc. Found it all on craigslist over a few month period.
One detail item to remember - you need to bypass the neutral saftey switch - easy to do, but very frustrating if you forget to!!
I rebuilt the T18 and the NP208 prior to the swap - very stright forward & all works quite well -I love the granny 1st on the trails.
I beleive you will have to manage adapters for the NP435 which may make the swap a greater challenge from a cost standpoint and perhaps a linkage standpoint.
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Originally posted by ralf??? The AX 15 has the slave either internally (bad idea) or externally on the bell housing. How would that interfere with brakes?
"Fab'd a spacer to move the vac booster off the firewall to fit the clutch master. Vanco made and installed a longer rod in the booster. Hydroboost solves this issue, but I needed to stay vacuum."
I'm guessing it the new clutch assembly/hydraulic setup doesn't clear the stock brake booster.83 J-10 Jeep "Oscar"
360/727/229
4" Rusty's w/33X12.50 BFG AT's
I'll apologize ahead of time...my inner voice has Tourette's...
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Heres a pic of mine. If I remember correctly, the spacer I made was 2.375". It is used in addition to the factory aluminum mount.
The master is from a '92 yj.
k.89 Waggy
AX-15 swap info threads...
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=83102
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=97262
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=104163
Theres more but that should get you started
Originally posted by JeepinPete-If it wasn't for bad luck, you wouldn't have any luck at all-
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