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  • rang-a-stang
    Administrator
    • Oct 31, 2016
    • 5498

    #16
    My new Costco 48 Cent lug nuts.


    Sheesh, guess I need to paint my Drums now. Why is it when you fix something that really bothers you, something else sticks out?
    Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
    (Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
    79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
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    11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
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    • Locked and Loaded
      350 Buick
      • Jul 04, 2006
      • 1282

      #17
      Jeff

      Drink more water.


      "Nothin' ain't worth nothin'.
      But it's free"
      Kris Kristofferson 1970

      1981 J10, 258, T176, NP208

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      • rang-a-stang
        Administrator
        • Oct 31, 2016
        • 5498

        #18
        ^that's awesome. ^
        I would NEVER be able to get lines that straight on my grill.
        Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
        (Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
        79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
        (Cherokee Build Thread)
        11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
        09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
        00 Baby Cherokee

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        • rang-a-stang
          Administrator
          • Oct 31, 2016
          • 5498

          #19
          After about 20 different attempts to win this emblem on Ebay, I finally got it for less that $2o out the door.

          I think it looks really nice on my grill.

          Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
          (Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
          79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
          (Cherokee Build Thread)
          11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
          09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
          00 Baby Cherokee

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          • SOLSAKS
            304 AMC
            • Jul 25, 2016
            • 1781

            #20
            Grille with emblem looks NICE !
            SOLSAKS - dave
            1976 J-10 HONCHO Fleetside
            1982 J-10 Fleetside
            1988 grand wagoneer
            2004 RUBICON jeep
            Benson, NC

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            • rang-a-stang
              Administrator
              • Oct 31, 2016
              • 5498

              #21
              So after a few years and while staring at my grill (also I had nothing to do waiting for my engine bits to come back from the machinist):
              1) I wanted more contrast between the gloss and background,

              2) the cracks were getting worse,

              3) and the chrome hoop that goes up into the hood looked terrible and was really bugging me.


              So I bought a crusty grill from another member on here. It was from Michigan (I think?) so there was some decent corrosion but the price was right and I planned on painting it the same way as before anyway.

              For anyone painting one of these pignose grills, there are basically 4 finishes on them. There is the dark silvery paint that goes on the background and behind the grill, there is the a chrome like super thin paint, a flat black on some of the chrome foil, and then the thick foil like chrome that is polished. On the grill I bought A LOT of the dark silvery paint and super thin chrome like paint was peeling off.

              You can really see where it is peeling off on the back


              Here you can see a ton of it was removed

              So the first step (conducted in a hotel room on a business trip) was to polish the outer chrome strip and remove all the peeling finishes I could. To polish the chrome strip I used some 0000 steel wool and this metal polish I bought at the Pomona Swap Meet in the mid 90s. There are 2 spots on the grill where the chrome is damaged. I don't care about them since they sit behind my lights on my bumper. Here is one of those spots of damage

              Here you can see after the outer chrome has been polished


              I kept using some coarse steel wool, a razor, a pair of tweezers, and whatever else I needed to keep removing peeling finishes. I get it pretty well cleaned up and rinsed it off in my hotel shower. I am about 4 man hours into this grill at this point:


              Next up was to fix all the cracks and re-enforce the weak spots. All these pignoses fail in the same place, the upper center support. It cracks, and then the chrome foil peels. There were about 6 different areas that I had to fiberglass over but the top center bracket was the worst. I cleaned the crack up with some 120 grit, the alcohol and this is how it looked. Notice it is cracked on the top AND bottom.


              I used the tools I had on hand (hotel trash can filled with water) to push that crack shut and fiberglassed it together.




              I only show the 2 spots on the top center bracket in these pictures, but there are about 5 other spots that needed fixing. Once the fiberglass had hardened, the grill felt MUCH more solid. It was pretty nuts how much of a difference it made.

              Then I sanded the chrome I was planning to paint with 220 grit and used some body glaze to fill the cracks (every step included continuing to remove peeling finishes). You can see many of the little red blobs of areas I needed to fill.

              Next, I sanded it all down with 220 grit, masked all the areas I wanted to leave chromed and got it ready for primer.

              Here you can see there are 5 different areas on just the upper bar that needed filling. I will bet if you have an original pignose, you have little cracks in the same places. On the back of all these places there is fiberglass reinforcement. I am about 12 hours into this grill and my business trip is over.


              That weekend I sprayed it with 1 coat of self etching primer, let it dry, then sprayed it with 2 heavy coats of sandable primer. Then I stuck it back on the shelf for a couple months waiting for another business trip where I could bring it with me.

              Flash forward to about 3 weeks ago. Here is the grill after being blown off and brought back out.

              You can see the cracks are pretty much gone. The filling worked! Wooo Hoo!

              Spent a couple hours wet sanding it I think it was 400 grit? Might have been 600, though.

              Then I re-masked and took it out to paint it. We had a day that was killed because someone in our group got the 'Rona so I found a place out in the hotel parking lot to spray the Rustoleum Painters Touch 2X Gloss black. I think I did 2 light coats and one thick coat. Gave it 8 hours in the warm'ish Novemeber Ontario CA sun.

              I unmasked it and stuck it on the shelf again when I got home. I wanted the gloss black to be fully cured before I touched it again.

              Last night, I took it down off the shelf, and re-masked again. The green tape is 1/4" masking tape I bought the first time I painted my grill. I masked everything I wanted to stay chrome or gloss black.

              I spent a few hours trying to find the FLATTTEST black that would last. I did quite a bit of reading on flat black paints and ended up with this:

              Here is how my grill ended up:

              SUUUuuuper stoked on it!
              Check out the contrast between the gloss and flat black:



              Now, is it perfect? NOPE!!! but my truck is a turd and if the grill was too nice, it would stick out. It looks pretty darn good, though! I hope to install this on my truck sometime this week; those pictures will go on my build thread. All in all, probably about 30 man hours in this used grill. Probably a total of about $60 in paint, filler, and sand paper.
              Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
              (Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
              79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
              (Cherokee Build Thread)
              11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
              09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
              00 Baby Cherokee

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              • SOLSAKS
                304 AMC
                • Jul 25, 2016
                • 1781

                #22
                ALOT of work !!!

                it payed off

                looks great !!!

                ready to see it on the fsj

                I like the flat/gloss black combo

                and the 401 emblem especially.

                dave in NC
                SOLSAKS - dave
                1976 J-10 HONCHO Fleetside
                1982 J-10 Fleetside
                1988 grand wagoneer
                2004 RUBICON jeep
                Benson, NC

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                • chubbinius
                  258 I6
                  • Oct 31, 2018
                  • 294

                  #23
                  Marc, that looks great. Definitely put the downtime of travel for work to good use!
                  1970 1414X Wagoneer "The Pig"
                  -Dauntless 350 V8
                  -D27 front/D44 rear
                  2006 XK (65th Ann Edition)-DD

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                  • fulsizjeep
                    Señor Jackhead
                    • Aug 21, 2002
                    • 22496

                    #24
                    Tastefully done Marc. The 401 emblem makes it righteous.

                    That emblem also fits nicely on the rise in the hood.
                    Flint
                    Ran when parked.
                    http://jubileejeeps.org/quadratrac
                    88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
                    76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
                    http://eviltwinfab.com http://www.ttsfabworks.com

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                    • SOLSAKS
                      304 AMC
                      • Jul 25, 2016
                      • 1781

                      #25
                      I tell you something else that is righteous

                      those other emblems on that wagoneer in your photo fullsizejeep

                      wow.

                      dave in NC
                      SOLSAKS - dave
                      1976 J-10 HONCHO Fleetside
                      1982 J-10 Fleetside
                      1988 grand wagoneer
                      2004 RUBICON jeep
                      Benson, NC

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                      • rang-a-stang
                        Administrator
                        • Oct 31, 2016
                        • 5498

                        #26
                        Yeah it does, Dave! Looks great!!

                        Thank you, all! I'm hoping to start a resurgence of pignoses up in this !!!
                        Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
                        (Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
                        79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
                        (Cherokee Build Thread)
                        11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
                        09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
                        00 Baby Cherokee

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                        • letank
                          AMC 4 OH! 1
                          • Jun 03, 2002
                          • 4129

                          #27
                          Very gooooood idea on the fiberglass, I used marine epoxy, it cracked again, then JB weld over a larger area on both sides, it cracked again...
                          Michel
                          74 wag, 349Kmiles on original ticker/trany, except for the rust. Will it make it to the next get together without a rebuilt? Status: needs a new body.
                          85 Gwag, 229 Kmiles. $250 FSJ test lab since 02, that refuses to give up but still leaks.

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                          • rang-a-stang
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 31, 2016
                            • 5498

                            #28
                            Originally posted by letank
                            Very gooooood idea on the fiberglass, I used marine epoxy, it cracked again, then JB weld over a larger area on both sides, it cracked again...
                            In the same place? That top middle bracket?
                            Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
                            (Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
                            79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
                            (Cherokee Build Thread)
                            11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
                            09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
                            00 Baby Cherokee

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                            • letank
                              AMC 4 OH! 1
                              • Jun 03, 2002
                              • 4129

                              #29
                              Originally posted by rang-a-stang
                              In the same place? That top middle bracket?
                              exactly, it was in a previous post on page 1, but I never detailled the damaged spot, here it is during the prep


                              Michel
                              74 wag, 349Kmiles on original ticker/trany, except for the rust. Will it make it to the next get together without a rebuilt? Status: needs a new body.
                              85 Gwag, 229 Kmiles. $250 FSJ test lab since 02, that refuses to give up but still leaks.

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                              • letank
                                AMC 4 OH! 1
                                • Jun 03, 2002
                                • 4129

                                #30
                                here is the crack(s)


                                Michel
                                74 wag, 349Kmiles on original ticker/trany, except for the rust. Will it make it to the next get together without a rebuilt? Status: needs a new body.
                                85 Gwag, 229 Kmiles. $250 FSJ test lab since 02, that refuses to give up but still leaks.

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