NP208 floor shifter conversion. NO MORE Bling...

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  • J10Mike
    Delightfully Incompetent
    • Jun 04, 2003
    • 5811

    NP208 floor shifter conversion. NO MORE Bling...

    I have never really cared for the under seat Flag shifter that were standard with the 80s TF727/NP208 combo found in the J trucks and NP208 equiped Cherokees.
    Awhile back, I thought about doing a conversion to the floor shifter that was standard on the 80s T176/NP208 and T18a/NP208 combos. But, it was just a thought until I recently discovered that I could not shift into low range with the new Procomp seats. The bottom of the seat stuck out just enough to keep the old Flag shifter from fully engaging into low range.
    I put out a Wanted ad and Grimgaunt stepped up and sold me everything I needed to make the conversion.
    Why AMC/Jeep didn't do this from the beginning is beyond me.
    Anyhow, here are the pics from the conversion that I did today.
    Before conversion with standard Flag shifter.

    NP208 floor shift compatible tunnel cover in place while making measurements for the linkage.

    Measurements completed. i next cut out the carper and padding for the shift lever.

    With all linkage connected and rubber boot added, it looks good and works great with low range. The only thing needed is to fasten down a home made trim ring around the boot.

    A different view.

    Keep in mind that I still do not have a knob for the shift lever. So, if anyone out there has an OEM shift knob available, please let me know.

    [ April 11, 2006, 08:08 AM: Message edited by: J10Mike ]
    www.j10mike.com
    Former - 1982 J10 Sportside, 360, TFI, 727/208, J20 axles, D44HD/Detroit TruTrac, D60/Detroit Locker, D60 disk brake conversion, 4.10s, 5 inch Superlift, 35x12.5x16.5 BFGs on AR767 Wheels. Procomp Super Seats. MileMarker 9000 on Cliffhanger front bumper. Dozer II rear bumper. Rhino Grill conversion. NP208 floor shifter conversion.


  • #2
    Looks Great...............However I notice you are also missing the knob off the Tilt Lever as well...............I think I will just start Calling you...................Knobless! [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
    Daily Driver 2008 Wrangler Sahara
    Going, Gone, or Thinking Fishing

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    • will e
      Always Broke
      • Nov 16, 2001
      • 9997

      #3
      That looks good. Yeah, I am not a big fan of my floor shifter except that it is easy to hide on emissions day.
      82 Cherokee WT ? SFwith Alcan/agr box/Borgeson shaft/ 401/performer/Holley TA/HEI/BeCool/727/ALTAS(2.0/2.72/5.44)/D60 Snofighter(Yukon Zip,hubs,stubs,4.56)/14 Bolt (FF,BF shave,Discs, ARB,Artec Truss)/MTR 37/Corbeau Moab Seats /Hella/tuffy console/sliders/custombumpers&roll bar/WARN 8000/steering brace/CO2 Tank/dual batts/custom TCskid plate





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      • heydave
        350 Buick
        • May 20, 2000
        • 1344

        #4
        I didn't know that Jeep ever had a shift lever other than the flag shifter for the NP cases. I would like a setup like that, guess I will start looking.
        Dave Lyons
        79 J-10 "The Gorilla"

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        • fulsizjeep
          Señor Jackhead
          • Aug 21, 2002
          • 22496

          #5
          That looks good Mike! My flag shifter got a longer handle on it a few years ago after the 208 upgrade and just clears the Tuffy console. I like my cup & junk holders too much to do a stick conversion to my GW tho...
          Flint
          Ran when parked.
          http://jubileejeeps.org/quadratrac
          88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
          76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
          http://eviltwinfab.com http://www.ttsfabworks.com

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          • IslanderOffRoad
            258 I6
            • Feb 04, 2006
            • 499

            #6
            If you don't mind me asking, what was the damage for that setup?

            I'd like to swap my case to that. Of course I'd like to put a stick shift in too...
            John V
            94 Cherokee Sport 4x4

            06 Honda Accord SE 5spd- The Daily Ricer

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            • J10Mike
              Delightfully Incompetent
              • Jun 04, 2003
              • 5811

              #7
              I bought the whole setup including tunnel cover (excluding shift knob) from another member here for $45 including shipping. You can find them cheap. You just have to find them.
              www.j10mike.com
              Former - 1982 J10 Sportside, 360, TFI, 727/208, J20 axles, D44HD/Detroit TruTrac, D60/Detroit Locker, D60 disk brake conversion, 4.10s, 5 inch Superlift, 35x12.5x16.5 BFGs on AR767 Wheels. Procomp Super Seats. MileMarker 9000 on Cliffhanger front bumper. Dozer II rear bumper. Rhino Grill conversion. NP208 floor shifter conversion.

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              • creeker
                232 I6
                • May 04, 2005
                • 86

                #8
                ok stupid question. Why do you guys call it a flag shifter?
                If you are happy stay that way...if not get that way...life is to short not to.

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                • J10Mike
                  Delightfully Incompetent
                  • Jun 04, 2003
                  • 5811

                  #9
                  Because, the knob looks like a flag.
                  www.j10mike.com
                  Former - 1982 J10 Sportside, 360, TFI, 727/208, J20 axles, D44HD/Detroit TruTrac, D60/Detroit Locker, D60 disk brake conversion, 4.10s, 5 inch Superlift, 35x12.5x16.5 BFGs on AR767 Wheels. Procomp Super Seats. MileMarker 9000 on Cliffhanger front bumper. Dozer II rear bumper. Rhino Grill conversion. NP208 floor shifter conversion.

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                  • gwinn
                    360 AMC
                    • Nov 05, 2001
                    • 3439

                    #10
                    Looks nice! I've got computer stand on the hump so the flag shifter won't work for mine. I am swapping in a NP208 at some point here. I did not get the shifter etc with the one bought. Do you still have your old underseat setup from the 208? Is it for sale? I'm not sure if the one from my 229 will work.
                    [email protected]
                    1983 Cherokee Laredo "Gus"

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                    • J10Mike
                      Delightfully Incompetent
                      • Jun 04, 2003
                      • 5811

                      #11
                      I didn't want to be known as "Knobless in St. Louis". So, I found and bought an aftermarket universal knob. My choice was the knob below or the Chrome Skull with red eyes. It will do for now until I can locate the right OEM knob.
                      www.j10mike.com
                      Former - 1982 J10 Sportside, 360, TFI, 727/208, J20 axles, D44HD/Detroit TruTrac, D60/Detroit Locker, D60 disk brake conversion, 4.10s, 5 inch Superlift, 35x12.5x16.5 BFGs on AR767 Wheels. Procomp Super Seats. MileMarker 9000 on Cliffhanger front bumper. Dozer II rear bumper. Rhino Grill conversion. NP208 floor shifter conversion.

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                      • J10Mike
                        Delightfully Incompetent
                        • Jun 04, 2003
                        • 5811

                        #12
                        Originally posted by gwinn:
                        Looks nice! I've got computer stand on the hump so the flag shifter won't work for mine. I am swapping in a NP208 at some point here. I did not get the shifter etc with the one bought. Do you still have your old underseat setup from the 208? Is it for sale? I'm not sure if the one from my 229 will work.
                        [email protected]
                        IIRC, the flag lever and linkage from the NP229 should work for the NP208 swap. I do have the linkage though if you want it. I'll have to clean it up first. It's got a mix of oil, mud, and road dirt all over.
                        www.j10mike.com
                        Former - 1982 J10 Sportside, 360, TFI, 727/208, J20 axles, D44HD/Detroit TruTrac, D60/Detroit Locker, D60 disk brake conversion, 4.10s, 5 inch Superlift, 35x12.5x16.5 BFGs on AR767 Wheels. Procomp Super Seats. MileMarker 9000 on Cliffhanger front bumper. Dozer II rear bumper. Rhino Grill conversion. NP208 floor shifter conversion.

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                        • Rande
                          Ph.D in Jeep B.S.
                          • Jun 26, 2000
                          • 5489

                          #13
                          Any good pics of the shifter before it went in? Thinking of making my own. Shouldn't be difficult.
                          N4ZYV

                          I ain't giving up. I've worked hard, it took me years to work my way to the bottom.


                          1998 Cherokee Sport (not maroon! Have history with maroon XJs)
                          1937 Chevy pickup (in progress)
                          1966 Mustang
                          1937 IH D2

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                          • J10Joe
                            304 AMC
                            • Oct 06, 2005
                            • 1699

                            #14
                            very cool Mike, i want one too! i too would liek to see some pics of teh shifter before install, if you got one.
                            1985 J-10 LWB
                            258/727/NP208
                            4" lift, TFI, MC 2100

                            1988 J20-one of the last ones
                            8400 GVRW
                            360/727/208
                            TFI, Rustolium (brushed)
                            Fisher/Meyers plow truck

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                            • letank
                              AMC 4 OH! 1
                              • Jun 03, 2002
                              • 4129

                              #15
                              Mike,

                              Nice interior, what kind of lenses did you put over your instruments.... i can see a non OEM reflection....

                              thank you

                              [ March 06, 2006, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: letank ]
                              Michel
                              74 wag, 349Kmiles on original ticker/trany, except for the rust. Will it make it to the next get together without a rebuilt? Status: needs a new body.
                              85 Gwag, 229 Kmiles. $250 FSJ test lab since 02, that refuses to give up but still leaks.

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