To the Collective:
I have decided once and for all to put to rest all of the threads on ammeter bypasses and alternator protection circuits. I prefer to keep that ammeter insturment in the dash, to upgrade it, to upgrade the wiring to and from and then to protect said investments for a lifetime of no longer thinking about said upgrade...priceless!
Most of you know that it is a simple matter to replace the stock alternators with a CS-130 or CS-144 higher amp range alternator.
These alternators come in 100-amp to 150-amp variations, and even higher amp versions.
I LIKE the ammeter option in my Jeep, it shows me how much charge/discharge the battery is recieving/sending.
If the ammeter shows a 30 amp or better reading for any length of time (10 minutes or longer) it tells me that something has drained my battery quite a bit. A voltmeter will only show that the battery is being charged...not much help, as this voltmeter will read the same when the battery is almost depleted (battery is almost drained or dead) as with a perfectly good battery.
Remember that ammeter only shows what current is being drawn or added FROM/TO THE BATTERY, it is NOT the ALTERNATOR OUTPUT, unless your battery is essentially a basic short circuit.
In any case, just buy 25-feet of #4 welding cable from these guys. The cost will be $30 dollars plus shipping.
You will need 6 of these terminals (two to terminate welding cable run from the alternator BATT output to the studs on the Ammeter shunt, then the second two teminals on the welding cable from that same Ammeter shunt to the solenoid. The final two terminals on the welding cable from the solenoid to the positive battery terminal. Most automotive stores will sell you a terminal to hook on to the battery post mounting bolt to allow hookups of ring terminals.
Wire the shunt below in accordance with directions, this shunt has a resistor (shown in the below image) that developes a voltage across it when current is passed through the resistor. So, when the battery is accepting current from the alternator, the current flows from the Alternator BATT terminal to this shunt, thru the shunt and then to the solenoid post where the positive battery cable is terminated to. In this way the ammeter shows the current (as displayed as a voltage drop across the shunt resistor) that the battery is accepting from the alternator. That voltage that is developed across that shunt resistor is proportional to the current being drawn, that is the more current that the battery is accepting from the alternator the larger the voltage developed across the shunt resistor. In reality the "Ammeter" is really a voltmeter and the "Voltage displayed" is simply shown as amperage. Most ammeters operate this way, a few of the more expensive units actually have the current running thru them.
This is a good idea because it allows monitoring on a daily basis the health of the vehicle such as the starter, the alternator, the battery's capability to take and hold a charge, the headlights current draw and any potential connectors that are starting to die of old age and have an excessive current draw condition such as those same headlight circuits. The ammeter will show a very few amps of draw that the battery is telling you is being drawn off and must be replaced, this is normal. When the vehicle is started, there will be a negative draw on the battery and the ammeter will reveal this, as the alternator charges up the battery that ammeter reading will steadly decline indicating that the battery is accepting a charge.
On our standard amp gauges, this would have been displayed as a negative current as the starter was engaged, and then an immediate positive ammeter reading that show the amount of amps that the battery is accepting to replace the energy just delivered to the starter. It allows simple daily monitoring of the electrical health of the system.
Both the ammeter and the shunt can be purchased at this location for about $70 dollars
http://www.evparts.com/webcart11/zoo...WCSOID=1441916&
For those of you who like to approximate the original style of amp meters (actually these and the above are in reality millivoltmeter that display the voltage drop across a shunt resistance and send the millivolt on to a meter which is calibrated and the display is shown as amperage). The Westach gauge below also comes in a 150 amp version, but I have not been able to find an image of it, it will look the same as the below gauge with 150 amp readings.
Quota cops are limiting my bandwidth on this thread...
So, for about 100 dollars you have a pretty bulletproof system.
AND since...
Guilbeau's my NAME...
Electronics MY game
To protect the whole shebang you put an inline circuit breaker that opens under overcurrent conditions. This one is from Waytek and is a 150 amp circuit breaker that is weather proof and that yellow hinged paddle will rotate60 degrees to click and reset the unit once tripped. $40 dollars...
I have decided once and for all to put to rest all of the threads on ammeter bypasses and alternator protection circuits. I prefer to keep that ammeter insturment in the dash, to upgrade it, to upgrade the wiring to and from and then to protect said investments for a lifetime of no longer thinking about said upgrade...priceless!
Most of you know that it is a simple matter to replace the stock alternators with a CS-130 or CS-144 higher amp range alternator.
These alternators come in 100-amp to 150-amp variations, and even higher amp versions.
I LIKE the ammeter option in my Jeep, it shows me how much charge/discharge the battery is recieving/sending.
If the ammeter shows a 30 amp or better reading for any length of time (10 minutes or longer) it tells me that something has drained my battery quite a bit. A voltmeter will only show that the battery is being charged...not much help, as this voltmeter will read the same when the battery is almost depleted (battery is almost drained or dead) as with a perfectly good battery.
Remember that ammeter only shows what current is being drawn or added FROM/TO THE BATTERY, it is NOT the ALTERNATOR OUTPUT, unless your battery is essentially a basic short circuit.
In any case, just buy 25-feet of #4 welding cable from these guys. The cost will be $30 dollars plus shipping.
You will need 6 of these terminals (two to terminate welding cable run from the alternator BATT output to the studs on the Ammeter shunt, then the second two teminals on the welding cable from that same Ammeter shunt to the solenoid. The final two terminals on the welding cable from the solenoid to the positive battery terminal. Most automotive stores will sell you a terminal to hook on to the battery post mounting bolt to allow hookups of ring terminals.
Wire the shunt below in accordance with directions, this shunt has a resistor (shown in the below image) that developes a voltage across it when current is passed through the resistor. So, when the battery is accepting current from the alternator, the current flows from the Alternator BATT terminal to this shunt, thru the shunt and then to the solenoid post where the positive battery cable is terminated to. In this way the ammeter shows the current (as displayed as a voltage drop across the shunt resistor) that the battery is accepting from the alternator. That voltage that is developed across that shunt resistor is proportional to the current being drawn, that is the more current that the battery is accepting from the alternator the larger the voltage developed across the shunt resistor. In reality the "Ammeter" is really a voltmeter and the "Voltage displayed" is simply shown as amperage. Most ammeters operate this way, a few of the more expensive units actually have the current running thru them.
This is a good idea because it allows monitoring on a daily basis the health of the vehicle such as the starter, the alternator, the battery's capability to take and hold a charge, the headlights current draw and any potential connectors that are starting to die of old age and have an excessive current draw condition such as those same headlight circuits. The ammeter will show a very few amps of draw that the battery is telling you is being drawn off and must be replaced, this is normal. When the vehicle is started, there will be a negative draw on the battery and the ammeter will reveal this, as the alternator charges up the battery that ammeter reading will steadly decline indicating that the battery is accepting a charge.
On our standard amp gauges, this would have been displayed as a negative current as the starter was engaged, and then an immediate positive ammeter reading that show the amount of amps that the battery is accepting to replace the energy just delivered to the starter. It allows simple daily monitoring of the electrical health of the system.
Both the ammeter and the shunt can be purchased at this location for about $70 dollars
http://www.evparts.com/webcart11/zoo...WCSOID=1441916&
For those of you who like to approximate the original style of amp meters (actually these and the above are in reality millivoltmeter that display the voltage drop across a shunt resistance and send the millivolt on to a meter which is calibrated and the display is shown as amperage). The Westach gauge below also comes in a 150 amp version, but I have not been able to find an image of it, it will look the same as the below gauge with 150 amp readings.
Quota cops are limiting my bandwidth on this thread...
So, for about 100 dollars you have a pretty bulletproof system.
AND since...
Guilbeau's my NAME...
Electronics MY game
To protect the whole shebang you put an inline circuit breaker that opens under overcurrent conditions. This one is from Waytek and is a 150 amp circuit breaker that is weather proof and that yellow hinged paddle will rotate60 degrees to click and reset the unit once tripped. $40 dollars...
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