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  • Austin 4x4
    350 Buick
    • Jul 28, 2009
    • 807

    lights don't work diagnosis.

    ok trying to find out why my headlamps and taillamps dont work, '73 J4000. dome lamps and heater control lamps work. i have the cluster out, going to a digital one. what is the purpos of the light blue wire that goes to the starter silonoid's "s" terminal, it looks like it goes directy to the lamp switch. i have power there constantly when in the acc position. thoughts?
    '73 J4000 4 door longbed http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=120147

    '85 Wagoneer

    YES i WILL be in ouray in 2013!
  • tgreese
    • May 29, 2003
    • 11682

    #2
    Wiring diagrams are here - http://oljeep.com/gw/elec/GW_wiring.html - the blue wire to the S terminal on the starter solenoid energizes the solenoid when you turn the key to start. It has to come from the starter switch.

    Your question is not very clear. You always have power to the light switch - otherwise the lights would not turn on with the key off.
    Last edited by tgreese; 03-03-2013, 03:34 PM.
    Tim Reese
    Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
    Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
    Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
    GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
    ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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    • Austin 4x4
      350 Buick
      • Jul 28, 2009
      • 807

      #3
      yep using that diagram. when the key is on and switch is on, i have power at all the I, H, R, and B1 terminals. dome lights and heater control lights work, all exterior lights do not work.
      Last edited by Austin 4x4; 03-03-2013, 04:08 PM.
      '73 J4000 4 door longbed http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=120147

      '85 Wagoneer

      YES i WILL be in ouray in 2013!

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      • tgreese
        • May 29, 2003
        • 11682

        #4
        Ok. Do you still have a problem?
        Tim Reese
        Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
        Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
        Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
        GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
        ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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        • Austin 4x4
          350 Buick
          • Jul 28, 2009
          • 807

          #5
          That should have been "do not work". Now edited above. I hate posting here on my phone
          '73 J4000 4 door longbed http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=120147

          '85 Wagoneer

          YES i WILL be in ouray in 2013!

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          • tgreese
            • May 29, 2003
            • 11682

            #6
            If you have power to the switch, and to terminal H, that goes to the dimmer switch. That's what I would look at first. Easy to check that the high beam light comes on - that means you have power going through the dimmer switch.

            If you have power from the dimmer switch, everything appears to go through a bulkhead connector to the engine compartment. I'd print out the two sheets and piece them together so I could more easily see what connects to what. You can ttrace it out by the numbers, but one big sheet would be easier. Test that you have power on both sides of the bulkhead connection. Just trace it out till you find where it stops.
            Tim Reese
            Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
            Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
            Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
            GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
            ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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            • Austin 4x4
              350 Buick
              • Jul 28, 2009
              • 807

              #7
              ok so more info i have power through the bulkhead connector for the taillamps, but they don't work. i checked for grounds but didn't see any. at the front i have power through the bulkhead for the low beams and marker lights. when i hit the dimmer switch i lose the power for the low beams, but get nothing for the high beams? looking at the wires i kinda wonder if it is like christmas lights, one burt bulb and they all go out. because when i check the side marker light socket with a volt meeter i get a full 12. but the bulb does not light up.
              '73 J4000 4 door longbed http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=120147

              '85 Wagoneer

              YES i WILL be in ouray in 2013!

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              • Mr. Goatman
                327 Rambler
                • Jan 05, 2006
                • 589

                #8
                Originally posted by Austin 4x4
                i check the side marker light socket with a volt meeter i get a full 12. but the bulb does not light up.
                Eh.. did you try replacing the bulb? Also, check the poles on the dimmer switch with a ohm meter.
                Remember; When it comes to tools and toys forgiveness is ALWAYS easier than permission!

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                • tgreese
                  • May 29, 2003
                  • 11682

                  #9
                  The lights are all in parallel. Nothing like a Christmas tree.

                  Isn't the dimmer switch inside the cabin? if you have power to the dimmer switch, but no further, just bypass the dimmer switch. Does the high beam indicator on the dash work? That is also connected to the dimmer switch.

                  Just follow the power from the light switch toward the lights. Eventually you will isolate the problem.
                  Tim Reese
                  Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
                  Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
                  Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
                  GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
                  ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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