Good .bin file for 360 for TunerPro

[firedog]

So, anybody have a good bin file they love with their AMC 360 motor?

I have the stock Howell program, and I have the stock Chevy TBI truck program from the 7747 ECM. Both run really, really rich in mine. (on this rig I put on a Howell TBI system).

Does someone have a good program they run? I'd be besides myself if I found one for the 0-4k ft elevation range, and one for a 4k-10k ft elevation range.

Cheers all!!

[firedog]

I have the Howell bin for anyone that is looking btw if they wanted a good spot to start from.

There are some tweaks I'd like to do to it now, but now that I have everything working so great on my rig, the Howell .bin runs pretty good.

I'd say it runs richer than a stock $42 bin just for reference.

[Achilles]

Just musing, it would be nice if we could put together a clean starter bin that would safely start and run a stock motor as a starting point for those who are going to fuel injection. It could be modified to suit your needs and equipment so you would not have to start completely at ground zero.

[firedog]

Just musing, it would be nice if we could put together a clean starter bin that would safely start and run a stock motor as a starting point for those who are going to fuel injection. It could be modified to suit your needs and equipment so you would not have to start completely at ground zero.

So, I've been working with the master and commander of things tuning -- the creator of TunerPro (who happens to live 5 minutes from my house) and the stellar Mr. Moates ... and a great suggestion by BabyWag here on the forum, and what I'm finding is that the stock ADSU program for the 350 is actually a decent place to start. Not getting too deep into the weeds, but it was actually quite easy to start getting my long term fuel trim to 128 from the stock ADSU program. My idle is set perfect now, and now I'm just going to try and work through the rest of the table and get everything set so i'm as close to 128 throughout the table.

The Howell program that came with mine is definitely rich...and I'm at sea level for all intents and purposes.

I have a copy of the stock ADSU bin for anyone who wants a good basic place to start from.

I'm still new to the programming game, and have much to learn, but it's pretty fun to get into it and see how simple (once you grasp the concepts) it can be and how rewarding on performance!

[babywag]

In TunerPro you can do a .bin compare, compare the stock Howell to the stock ASDU.

IIRC Howell doesn't change much vs. stock.

[firedog]

In TunerPro you can do a .bin compare, compare the stock Howell to the stock ASDU.

IIRC Howell doesn't change much vs. stock.

Yup. That's what I see. They changed some fuel table (richer) and did spark changes, but that's about it.

I actually went back to the stock ASDU and am starting from there. I got the idle BLM and short term trim to 128 at idle. runs so nice. Now, I just need to work myself through the table and do the same until it's all as close to 128 as I can get.

After our trip, I think I'm going to work on getting my DUI dizzy sent back and setup with GM spark control module so I can control that as well, and lose the vacuum advance.

Babywag...do you have knock sensor hooked up? Since they're tuned to specific blocks (if you do) does it work?

[babywag]

I do not on my '90, but do have it on the '88.

It appears to detect knock on the '88 properly, like when I tried a pretty aggressive timing curve.
Not sure how accurate it actually is though.

[babywag]

Also don't beat yourself up trying to get that "perfect 128" on every cell.

It changes due to varying conditions and that's what the computer is for.
Do a couple good logs, adjust it, and call it good.

[firedog]

Also don't beat yourself up trying to get that "perfect 128" on every cell.

It changes due to varying conditions and that's what the computer is for.
Do a couple good logs, adjust it, and call it good.

I'm shooting for 128 as close as I can, but I figure that if I'm between 120 and 140 all around the table in general, I'll be good and let the computer compensate appropriately.

Did you use a knock sensor for a 350 btw? I figure that's the only way the ECM will recognize it?

And when you put in a VSS, did you have to change speedo's to an electronic?

[Achilles]

I am watching this closely. I still have some other task to take care of before I get on my fuel injection install.

[babywag]

I'm shooting for 128 as close as I can, but I figure that if I'm between 120 and 140 all around the table in general, I'll be good and let the computer compensate appropriately.

Did you use a knock sensor for a 350 btw? I figure that's the only way the ECM will recognize it?

And when you put in a VSS, did you have to change speedo's to an electronic?

You want it closer than that like 125-135. What I meant was don't obsess on "128".

No, still mechanical speedo.
Knock sensor needs to match module. So use what donor vehicle had.

[firedog]

You want it closer than that like 125-135. What I meant was don't obsess on "128".

No, still mechanical speedo.
Knock sensor needs to match module. So use what donor vehicle had.

So where is your VSS coming from? on my other rig, I put in an electronic speedometer and signal from that went to ECM I think...where is the Vehicle Speed Sensor getting it's info from? Or maybe the easier question is where does the VSS go if it's not already in and you're keeping you manual speedo cable? is there an insert that fits between the manual speedo cable and the TC?

[babywag]

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/SpeedSensors_Speedometer.html

you want #1 2PRS

[firedog]

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Spe...eedometer.html

you want #1 2PRS

[Bill USN-1]

I would recommend spending a little time in the injection forum FAQs on binderplanet.com like most others here did when they started.
Everything you are slowly discovering is already spelled out in the FAQs and has been for about 15yrs.
All you need to do is read and follow the instructions.
Even how to set up a basic tune for any engine like the AMCs.

There's really no need to try to reinvent the wheel.