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Max Power
10-09-2003, 10:34 AM
I have read the in-depth study and I am aware that frams suck and everything... nevertheless my calipers say that the oil inlet is the same as PH25. I think it'll fit instead of the PH25 that is the spec for my year.
The reason I ask it that the ph8a is substantially longer and that that means more filter element and more oil capacity.

just wondering,
tia,
Robert
bigblack'74
10-09-2003, 10:51 AM
yes, i believe that is what i have done in the past(with my old '84 GW) when the book calls for that smaller filter for later years, but just use an quiv. filter, not fram smile.gif they do suck
netbear
10-09-2003, 11:09 AM
What applications are the big filter from?
Max Power
10-09-2003, 11:31 AM
thx for the replies.
I went thru the book a little but did not find a vehical that it is used on. I asked about a reverse lookup on the part number, and the counter guy had never heard of such a thing.
Big Blue J-10
10-09-2003, 11:34 AM
I am using a Fram ph11 on my truck.It is alot longer than the ph25.Fits perfect.

Adam
AMX factor
10-09-2003, 02:20 PM
Check out a Carquest parts dealer. They can find a Wix filter to do the same job your looking for. I have a longer filter on my GW that I got from them. SOrry I don't have the number handy.
jeepguzzi
10-09-2003, 03:13 PM
PH8 fits fords, I think. I have used them in the past.
will e
10-09-2003, 04:24 PM
Yes, I use a ph8a (on my Ford Cleveland!).
Haven't tried it on my jeep.
Kaiserjeeps
10-09-2003, 07:50 PM
Geez, havn't you guys read this? http://minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy.html
Why on earth are you using fram? No offense, but I'm curious why when everything else is way better...

[ October 10, 2003, 01:54 AM: Message edited by: Kaiserjeeps ]
Green Giant
10-10-2003, 04:57 AM
I can't speak for anyone else, but I have used them for 20+ years without any problems. I run a PH11 on both the 360 and the 327.
The Anti-Chrysler
10-10-2003, 04:59 AM
I think I had a Scout that used the PH8A on the 345. 1977. I haven't used Frams in many years however, due to the reports on them.
AM Woody
10-10-2003, 05:07 AM
The PH8A size fits mosts Chrysler V-8's, too, big and small block. And a lot of Fords. Super common filter...

Here are some cross references I think are accurate. Check your local listings:

Fram PH8A
AC PFL1A
Hastings LF115
Purolator L30001
Wix 51515
Max Power
10-10-2003, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by Kaiserjeeps:
Geez, havn't you guys read this? http://minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy.html
Why on earth are you using fram? No offense, but I'm curious why when everything else is way better...Yes, if you will read the First sentance of the first post you will see that I have read the study... However I cut my last fram PH25 apart after 4k hard dusty miles, and you know what I found?

an Intact filter w/ the dirt and sludge still on the correct side of filter, and a valve at the top that was still functioning.

works for me.

Thanks for all the replies, I think I'm gonna gofor the ph11.
Kaiserjeeps
10-10-2003, 08:22 AM
Yes I did read the first line. As a matter of fact I reread the whole post twice to make sure I was not posting the obvious. I was addressing the others who may not have seen the study. To each his own.. I know what I use and don't use....To each his own....
Jeeptruck
10-10-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Kaiserjeeps:
Yes I did read the first line. As a matter of fact I reread the whole post twice to make sure I was not posting the obvious. I was addressing the others who may not have seen the study. To each his own.. I know what I use and don't use....To each his own....I am with you on this, had Fram come apart almost cost me my the engine in my Z71. Only use Pure One but after the write-up might spring for the Mobil-1 to match the only oil I run. :D

Who makes the K&N filters???
Marvin Gates
10-10-2003, 06:54 PM
Just use a wix and you won't have to worry about anything! smile.gif
Max Power
10-11-2003, 03:19 AM
THanks everyone for the replies, I just switched to synthetic, and will be replacing the oil filter every 500 miles (or less) for the next couple thousand miles and wanted the largest, cheapest filter available. I'm driving to the east coast very soon and figger I'll change the filter at least 3 times on the trip, maybe every 8 hrs on a 32 hr trip.

especially after reading this...b/c I did not flush it.

from this page

http://www.performanceoiltechnology.com/convertingtoamsoil.htm

AMSOIL Engine Flush: In a new engine with less than approximately 20,000 miles it is not imperative that AMSOIL Engine Flush be used. In an engine with more than 20,000-30,000 miles and beyond, that has been using petroleum oil the entire time, we highly recommend using the AMSOIL Engine Flush. What the engine flush will do is remove the petroleum oil sludge & varnish deposits from your engine and properly prepare your engine for AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oil.

AMSOIL Synthetics are naturally cleansing and also high in detergents. What happens when you operate an engine on petroleum oil, the sludge and varnish deposits that occur as a result of using petroleum oil will accumulate around your pistons, rings, seals, valvetrain, etc.. and actually help to seal your engine. This type of petroleum oil deposit "sealing" can lead to problems such as piston ring sticking, sludge deposits in valve covers and oil pans which can lead to decreased oil pump capacity output and restriction of critical oil galley passageways over an extended period of time, plus many more issues which we will not go into detail in this discussion.. These deposits are highly detrimental to the proper function and longevity of your engine.