Ring gear bolt tourque

[j20brett]

Ok, so i installed my aussie locker this weekend, and went to tourque the ring gear bolts back down and i went to 50 ft/lbs first thinking that was it. Went throught the manual and found a refernce to 108ft/lbs so i started tourquing and broke off a bolt. this is a d44 front by the way. So, someone tell me, what should i tourque to??

[JeepsAndGuns]

A google search brings a few sites and they all listed 100 FT-LBS.
I dont know for sure, but are you even supposed to re use the ring gear bolts? You might not. But like I said, I'm not sure.

[deadironrat]

I don't think you are supposed to resure ring gear bolts but I always have anyways. I've always just gone for "really tight" instead of "tight". I don't own a torque wrench.

[Chevelleguy]

1 blip on setting #5 of my Ingersol 1/2" impact wrench.

[Sambo]

your "not" supposed to reuse them but i do anyway! i just torque em to whatever my #4 setting on my impact is(150) i think and use loctite btw!

[j20brett]

Ok thanks. Best place to get new ring gear bolts?? It shouldnt have snapped before 100 ft/lbs then. Crazy.

[fullsizejohn]

i got mine from randys ring and pinion.....excellent product,fast shipping and nice people.....although at almost $5 each(for my 14b), hold on to your shorts:eek:

[j20brett]

found them locally at a diff shop for $10 a set :thumbsup:

[Sambo]

be sure and use loctite as well with new bolts.did they give you any insight as to what torque to use?

[orangecherokee]

yeah, that shouldn't have snapped. Yeah, it's a pain but better to find it now then later :eek:

You are supposed to use new bolts everytime but I have heard of using the old ones without much issue.

[Dirtball]

This made me go and look at the install instructions for my Lock-right... it only says "install the ring gear now and torque the bolts". Hmmmmmmm... might need to look into this a little more closely before I install it.

[JeepsAndGuns]

This made me go and look at the install instructions for my Lock-right... it only says "install the ring gear now and torque the bolts". Hmmmmmmm... might need to look into this a little more closely before I install it.

You only have to remove the ring gear if its too thick to get the cross pin out. If the cross pin will slide past the gear, then you dont even have to pull the carrier.

[deadironrat]

As far as I know though you will have pull the ring gear on all D44s to get the cross shaft out. Does anyone know if you have to on the amc 20 or D60?

[Dirtball]

Supposedly, on some 44s you can manage it without taking out the ring gear IF you can get the roll pin out and IF the ring is small enough to get the cross pin out. It's supposed to depend on the gearing. High gears you maybe can; low gears you can't. My 3.54s are right at the cutoff, but I'm expecting to have to take the carrier out.

[Casey]

This made me go and look at the install instructions for my Lock-right... it only says "install the ring gear now and torque the bolts". Hmmmmmmm... might need to look into this a little more closely before I install it.
I've installed at least a dozen of them after removing the carrier and then reused the ring gear bolts. Never had a problem, yet.

[Casey]

This made me go and look at the install instructions for my Lock-right... it only says "install the ring gear now and torque the bolts". Hmmmmmmm... might need to look into this a little more closely before I install it.
I've installed at least a dozen of them after removing the carrier and then used the old ring gear bolts. Never had a problem, yet.

[duncanstives]

I put mine on without a torque wrench but I am sure it was no where NEAR 100ft/lbs... It did not take anything like that to get them OFF (as it it was pretty damm easy) and I figured since it had gone 200K miles like that with no bolts coming out (hell the thing looked pretty much new...) it was probably ok to tighten them to about what it took to get them off (I am guessing about 40ft/lbs.. if that)

[Clean RC]

Ok D44 ring gear bolts are 55ftlbs torque, and the carrier bearing caps are 75ftlbs.. since nobody looked it up..

[j20brett]

reference for the 55ft/lbs? my manual says 108ft/lbs now that ive found it.

[j20brett]

Found a good list: Original poster says this comes from spicer

D30

Pinion nut size & thread pitch .750-16
Pinion nut torque (Crush sleeve) 160-500 ft. lbs
Pinion nut torque (solid shims) 160-200 ft. lbs
Pinion bearing preload 15-30 in. lbs.
Ring gear bolt size & thread pitch .375-24
Ring gear bolt torque 70-90 ft. lbs
Carrier bearing cap bolt size & thread pitch .437-14
Carrier bearing cap bolt torque 35-50 ft. lbs
Diff cover bolt size & thread pitch .312-18
Diff cover bolt torque 28-33 ft. lbs
Carrier case ratios 3.55- / 3.73+


D35

Pinion nut size & thread pitch .875-20
Pinion nut torque (Crush sleeve) 170-500 ft. lbs
Pinion bearing preload 15-35 in. lbs.
Ring gear bolt size & thread pitch .375-24
Ring gear bolt torque 70-90 ft. lbs
Carrier bearing cap bolt size & thread pitch .437-14
Carrier bearing cap bolt torque 47-67 ft. lbs
Diff cover bolt size & thread pitch .312-18
Diff cover bolt torque 28-33 ft. lbs
Carrier case ratios 3.31- / 3.54+

D44

Pinion nut size & thread pitch .750-16
Pinion nut torque (Crush sleeve) 160-500 ft. lbs
Pinion nut torque (solid shims) 160-200 ft. lbs
Pinion bearing preload 20-45 in. lbs.
Ring gear bolt size & thread pitch .375-24
Ring gear bolt torque 70-90 ft. lbs
Carrier bearing cap bolt size & thread pitch .500-13
Carrier bearing cap bolt torque 70-90 ft. lbs
Diff cover bolt size & thread pitch .312-18
Diff cover bolt torque 28-33 ft. lbs
Carrier case ratios 3.73- / 3.92+

D60

Pinion nut size & thread pitch .875-14
Pinion nut torque (Crush sleeve) 160-500 ft. lbs
Pinion nut torque (solid shims) 220-280 ft. lbs.
Pinion bearing preload 20-45 in. lbs.
Ring gear bolt size & thread pitch .500-20
Ring gear bolt torque 120-140 ft. lbs
Carrier bearing cap bolt size & thread pitch .500-13
Carrier bearing cap bolt torque 70-90 ft. lbs
Diff cover bolt size & thread pitch .375-16
Diff cover bolt torque 30-40 ft. lbs
Carrier case ratios 4.10- / 4.56+

D70

Pinion nut size & thread pitch .875-14
Pinion nut torque (solid shims) 220-280 ft. lbs.
Pinion bearing preload 20-45 in. lbs.
Ring gear bolt size & thread pitch .500-20
Ring gear bolt torque 120-140 ft. lbs
Carrier bearing cap bolt size & thread pitch .500-13
Carrier bearing cap bolt torque 70-90 ft. lbs
Diff cover bolt size & thread pitch .375-16
Diff cover bolt torque 30-40 ft. lbs
Carrier case ratios (D70) 4.10- / 4.56+
Carrier case ratios (D70-3HD) 3.42- / 3.73+

D80

Pinion nut size & thread pitch 1.250-12
Pinion nut torque (solid shims) 440-500 ft. lbs.
Ring gear bolt size & thread pitch .562-18
Ring gear bolt torque .200-240 ft. lbs.
Carrier bearing cap bolt size & thread pitch .500-13
Carrier bearing cap bolt torque 70-90 ft. lbs
Diff cover bolt size & thread pitch .375-16
Diff cover bolt torque 30-40 ft. lbs
Carrier case ratios 3.73- / 4.10+

[orangecherokee]

Ok D44 ring gear bolts are 55ftlbs torque, and the carrier bearing caps are 75ftlbs.. since nobody looked it up..

I'll have what you're smokin'

[Dirtball]

My research shows 100 for the ring gear bolts and 80 for the caps...

But also found this with totally different numbers...

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/archive/index.php/t-11111.html

Interesting reading from years gone by...

[j20brett]

I think ill run 85 and lots of loctite...should do the trick. Its the front so it only sees action when im wheelin. Thanks for all the help!

[Clean RC]

I'll have what you're smokin'

Here I thought this was the Full size board not jeepforum... here is where I got my data.. I pitty the person that has to over torque a ring gear bolt.. Even most of the Dana Manuals I have say 55ftlbs, the only one I know that is 100ftlbs is the D60 and up.. We are talking Dana 44 right?

http://picasaweb.google.com/Scott.Tell/MyDocuments#5311554832481781730

[orangecherokee]

you were being a smart @ss so I decided to return the favor. And here I thought you were one on jeepforum... whatever that is :rolleyes:

why do you pity the person? It's not like it takes an act of congress to tighten something more. Just lean into it :thumbsup:

I've seen both btw. 55 and 100. Whatever makes you sleep better at night is what I'd go with.

edit: I looked up some more sources. 55 seems to be more common but I've also seen 75. Bearing caps should be 87 ft/lbs. The more I think about it I'd run 65-70 and feel good about it but remember to lock-tite the bolts.