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liliysdad
07-28-2002, 11:56 PM
does anyone know if a commando is sprin under or over? i was cruising through my tsm last night and found that a commando front spring is the same length and width as mine, and if they are spring under, shold provide a few inches of lift. anyone?

tuck
07-29-2002, 02:34 AM
Jeepster commando? Spring under for sure. Are you sure those springs are going to give you lift though? I don't suppose they were built to carry quite as much weight... but probably still a good option.

liliysdad
07-29-2002, 04:34 AM
304s werew optional in these things, so the front should be about as stiff as ours, and with a spring under setup originally, they should have plenty of arch. my truck is factory spring over, so any arch would equal lift, since mine are completely parabolic(unarched) from the factory.

jode
07-29-2002, 04:45 AM
One thought here...Didn't I read somewhere that these trucks used a spring that was longer in the front than in the back (or vice versa) meaning that the axle is not centered on the springs? Or was it a writeup on a spring that would kee pthe axle in the same spot while increasing the length of the spring? Oh yeah, that must have been it... the offset location of the axle pins causes the spring to be able to be lopnger while maintaining the axle in the same spot...I think it was for short wheelbase CJ5s and Commandos...Maybe I'm way off in left field here, does any of this sound familiar? Make sense? Or is it all irrelevant cause the commando doesn't use those offset springs? :confused:

liliysdad
07-29-2002, 04:50 AM
i am not real sure, having never seen a commando spring up close, but if they wer offset, no biggie. a little more wheelbase is a good thing.

tuck
07-29-2002, 08:13 AM
A few inches of wheelbase is all good as long as your driveshaft and steering linkage agree. ;)

Just because the springs are in a spring over setup doesn't necessarily mean that spring under springs are going to net a lift. I don't know exactly what your setup is, but the factory spring over setups that I have seen have the springs set to the side of the frame instead of directly underneath, cancelling out the height gain from the spring over. Does that make sense?
I'd be willing to guess that the spring rate in your springs is very similar to the spring rate in SUA wagoneer, and probably close to the Jeepster's SUA springs also.

However, if you can find lift springs for the Jeepster, that will for sure get you some lift. Good luck, hope this post wasn't too confusing.

Glenn_tx
07-29-2002, 02:20 PM
I've got the original fronts off my 67 commando sitting in the back yard. It is spring under. I'm surprised the width is the same, seems like mine were 2" wide when I ordered new lifted Alcans for the front. Maybe the later models with v8's had wider springs. The rears had offset centering pins, I believe the rear portion is longer, can't remember off the top of my head and no longer have the commando.

shredby4
07-29-2002, 02:33 PM
The rear springs are longer. I have my Commando parked behind my Cherokee right now. My front springs aren't as wide as my Cherokee's springs. Maybe that's something that came about after AMC ruined the Jeepster Commando with that ugly front clip they put on it. Oh, mine is a 69.

RustyJeep
07-29-2002, 04:06 PM
The earlier J trucks, like Lilysdad's and my 73's have 2" wide springs. I just said heck with fiddlin' around, and went to the local spring shop and had custom springs made up with 4" of lift.

liliysdad
07-30-2002, 08:38 AM
in response to Tuck, since my current springs have zero arch, so a spring with any arch will net a lift, regardless of the mounting location.

tuck
07-30-2002, 08:45 AM
yup, should work for ya.