Pics of wag on rockwells?

[lasinvegas]

I have searched and searched, but I can't find what I am looking for.
Does anyone have a picture(s) of a wag or cherokee on rockwells with the body still attached? I have seen a few that had the body completely gone, but I know someone has to have done it with the body still there.

[jeepdreamer]

Hey,
Dont know if this helps but JP magazine did an indepth conversion to a J truck. They put rockwells and 52" tires on it! You should be able to find it on thier site under project "hotdog".

[lasinvegas]

I have looked at that, but I really want to see a wag or cherokee so I can get an idea how they fit in with the body.

[ironroad29]

pretty much a waste of time and money...sorry .

[lasinvegas]

pretty much a waste of time and money...sorry .

If you haven't noticed, this whole website is devoted to guys that are into wasting time and money. But thanks for the constructive crtiticism.

[imiceman44]

If you haven't noticed, this whole website is devoted to guys that are into wasting time and money. But thanks for the constructive crtiticism.

:thumbsup: :rolleyes: :D :eek: :fsj: :banghead: :drivin: :banghead: :fsj:

[Headhoncho]

If you haven't noticed, this whole website is devoted to guys that are into wasting time and money. But thanks for the constructive crtiticism.


My girlfriend tells me the same thing about my truck. :thumbsup: I need to make that my signature.


JR

[billyrb]

there are pics out there. What specifically are you trying to find? Clearance issues / how they set up the axles / etc?

[lasinvegas]

I have searched with no luck. Even spent 3 hours on pirate working through threads. I mainly would like a side and a front shot. My assupmtion is that the underneath would be relatively close to that on a j truck which I can find

[ironroad29]

seriously, there are better axles and less money .rockwells are basically attention axles .."ohh look at me I'm on rockwells." but hey , whatever floats your boat. but I think they weight alone outweighs any befit you MIGHT get from them unless your building a big foot clone.

[lasinvegas]

I'm not asking th epros or cons of running them, I am looking for pictures of a rig that already has them. If I wanted to ask a question and have someone be a dick I would have asked it on pirate.

[Stuka]

Hey,
Dont know if this helps but JP magazine did an indepth conversion to a J truck. They put rockwells and 52" tires on it! You should be able to find it on thier site under project "hotdog".

Actually they were 49.5 Iroks ;)

But they also used leaf springs and had like 2" of up travel. It needed a few inches more lift, and 44" sized tires.

[Tad]

Keep it on topic folks or just keep away.
He didn't ask for opinions, just pictures.

I think Desert Beast has some pic's from when the body was mostly there?

[lasinvegas]

I have searched all of his threads, but haven't been able to find anything when the whole side of the body was there. Rocks are the cheapest way to go for me.
Bought deuce for $1200
sold one rear- $350
Sold radiator- $125
Sold tranny- $120
Sold transfer- $80
Sold bed- $200
Sold doors- $150
Sold canvas- $250 Troop top and bab with bows
Sold winch- $300
Sold pieces- $100
Sold engine parts- $150 - engine was trash
Scrapped what was left- $412

Total in my rocks - $1037 to my bills
Traded 3 - AR lowers for 2 detroits (1 used - 1 in box)


I'm really just trying to get an idea of how the rear sits in relation to the side of the body. Hard to get the picture in my mind. I figure I can shove the front forward some and cut some fenders super high. The rear wheel cosmetics on a 4 door are a bit harder to work with than the front or a 2 door

[lasinvegas]

Actually they were 49.5 Iroks ;)

But they also used leaf springs and had like 2" of up travel. It needed a few inches more lift, and 44" sized tires.


I was thinking of going tall and narrow. A truck is much easier to work around than the wag will be.

[Dmntxn77]

You can cut the back wheel openings straight back, just the same as the front, except the opposite.. :D

Or, you can just trim the openings HUGE like this one..
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/featuredvehicles/10989192%2Bpinline_medium/129_0811_46_z%2Bttc_1977_jeep_wagoneer%2Bside_view _drivers.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fourwheeler.com/featuredvehicles/129_0811_1977_jeep_wagoneer_ttc_08/index.html&usg=__MRF1HjC3wmWr7ra5At9IlRlRMMs=&h=112&w=150&sz=7&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=m5BIKdtAm-KSGM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwagoneer%2Brockwell%26um%3D1%26hl%3De n%26sa%3DN

[trcooperone]

I would love to see a FSJ with a comp cut, does anyone have a picture of that with rockwells!

[lasinvegas]

Thanks for that link. That is getting closer to what I am looking for. Too bad they don't give a straight on shot. I don't want to cut into the door opening, but I don't want the thing to look unbalanced. I wouldn't be so worried about it if I was staying in Colorado as pretty much anything goes on th streets here, but with the move to Arkansas I have to actually worry about how far everything sticks out.

Loe his snorkel on that thing. After watching a few of those runs I think it's a great design

[Dmntxn77]

Hmmm, I would think that Arkansas would be the last place that guys with big trucks would have to worry....

So, you dont want to relocate you axle back? If not, there is no way that you will be able to run BIG tires without cutting the door.. Unless of course you want to run a HUGE lift...

[lasinvegas]

I'm willing to move it back, i'm more worried about keeping it balanced with the wheelwell after I enlarge it. Can't go much higher with the opening without getting into the door opening. Thought about getting some wt flares and doing it like riverbeast did (he still around?) except that i'd add a section in to make them longer front to back fo th larger opening. Maybe do something similar in the front except run the top portion all the way to the front.

[Dmntxn77]

If you move it back far enough, you wont need to trim the doors.

What size tires are you looking to run?

[lasinvegas]

I have a set of the 40" XL's running around that I was hoping to run.

[Dmntxn77]

Oh, thats not that big of a tire...

Moving the axle back just a few inches, then trimming up to the top of the wheelwell should cover ya...

[Dmntxn77]

Here is a pic with 38.5"s... Notice the the flares are not trimmed at all..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/79%20Chief/1%20Ton%20Swap/AlmostDone2.jpg

This one shows my trim plans...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/79%20Chief/1%20Ton%20Swap/DriverSideRearCopy.jpg

[Dmntxn77]

42"s... Notice that the flares are trimmed on this one. I still need to cut my wheel well to fit them...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/42%20inch%20Irocs/5.jpg




SOOOO, with 40"s, you will be somewhere in between the two... It really has nothing to do with the axles... Thats a whole new set of issues... :thumbsup:

[lasinvegas]

propblem is that your rig was a wt so the wheelwells are larger, and the rear has no interference issues with a door no matter how large you trim it. I wish I had my original wt back to throw these axles on. The wag runs into issues on that rear door opening.

[Dmntxn77]

No, the wheel well's are not larger. The fenders are just cut smaller. You can trim your fenders up to the top of the wheel well too.

I understand your door issue. Like I said, moving your axle back a few inches will help to solve the problem.

My plan is to cut the center section out of the wheel humps from my parts rig. Then, I will cut my wheel humps down the middle, and graft the extra material in, mark the new shape, and cut the skin to match... Easy peazy....

[noflyzone]

http://gdimofo.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10008/normal_4inchweb2.JPG


This is how mine is cut.I ran out of money and sold the rocks. Now I have a pile of tires, wheels, xtra drivetrains and the waggy all piled into a storage unit that I can't quite keep paying for.

[rockrat]

I'm putting rocks under mine($1500) most built 60's cost 1800-2200.
Anyways, check out Hair's waggy from TTC last year. Major mods, he kept the axles in stock location. I'm moving my front all the way forward and the rear is going back 12". trying to decide between 44 or 46's.

Here's one:

[noflyzone]

There are a lot of other mods required with Rockwells. Dont think for second that because the axles are cheap the whole rig will be.

[lasinvegas]

There are a lot of other mods required with Rockwells. Dont think for second that because the axles are cheap the whole rig will be.

Rocks wouldn't be cheap if I were starting from scratch, but I have already accumulated everything I need to get them in except for shocks. Plus I have all the tools and skills at hand to do all the fabwork. Figure i'll swap to a longer 1 ton springpack in the rear and throw a couple of antiwrap bars into it for now and when I get time next winter tear it all apart and link it. When I link it I want to cut the frame off under the front seats and build new from there back.

[lasinvegas]

rockrat wins. Exactly the shot I was looking for. Do you have a link to more pictures/specs of this thing, or an email contact for the owner? Is he a member here?

Thanks

[duncanstives]

rockrat wins. Exactly the shot I was looking for. Do you have a link to more pictures/specs of this thing, or an email contact for the owner? Is he a member here?

Thanks

But that thing would tip over super easily. FAIL. I am not saying rock are bad by any stretch... I dream of building a street legal, daily drivable, completely awesome rig on rockwells... I just think it would involve lots of creative (and spendy) axle relocation, trimming, caging (internal or external depending in preference) and lifting. Possibly also change the engine mount configuration so the engine sits a bit higher and get some sort of differnet oil pan. For some reason a jeep thats 10 feet off the ground with no cage and huge axles just doesn't do anything for me... I DO think leaf springs could work great with proper engineering (inboarded springs for more flex.. Large springs for less breakage and possibly even joints on the points where the leafs join the axle)

[lasinvegas]

I agree that it sits too high, but I was looking for a straight on side shot in stock location. I don't plan on going that high and will extend the wheelbase a bit. I just needed to get a visual on how it all fit in stock length. I have mainly been worried about the rear wheel opening and wheelwell

[rockrat]

rockrat wins. Exactly the shot I was looking for. Do you have a link to more pictures/specs of this thing, or an email contact for the owner? Is he a member here?

ThanksSorry, I don't have contact info, I found this pic on pirate last year when I was researching my project. I'll be negating the leafs in favor of 4-links, extra crossmembers for strength as well as boxing the frame. I'm getting my mounts from Wild Time Fabrication in Bellvue, MI (269)317-4082 and www.extremeoffroadparts.com in Kaleva, MI.

[lasinvegas]

I have bought enough stuff to leaf spring mount and 4 link the rockwells. I'm going to run them leaf spring mounted until next winter and then tear the whole thing apart. Probably end up cutting the frame off under the front seats and use 3/16 2x4 from there back so I can get it where I want it. I just want to be able to play with it this summer a bit.

[rockrat]

I hear you there, unfortunately, mine won't be done until next summer, I'm dovetailing the rear and narrowing the front with full cage. I want a lower COG, for running rocks and steep hill climbs.

[lasinvegas]

I'll be doing a full cage next winter. Kind of why I want to do the rear frame then as well. That way I can tie it all together and make it as solid as possible. Have to make sure we get together and get build threads on here to see which way we go.

[billyrb]

I'll be doing a full cage next winter. Kind of why I want to do the rear frame then as well. That way I can tie it all together and make it as solid as possible. Have to make sure we get together and get build threads on here to see which way we go.

Looks like it'll be a fun project. As for that waggy with rocks, I always dug the look of it. Whether or not it can be done, whether or not it's the best option for everyone, whether or not it's the least expensive option, who cares. As long as you aren't endangering those around you (i.e. 6" blocks on the front, etc.), build it the way you want and have a blast.

[Merc69]

Rockwells are always cool...there have been a couple of people do it here. They are the next step if I ever break the 14 bolt and 60...of course if I can score a set and have the play budget to do it I may put a set in before I break something. Then I could sell the 14 bolt and Dana 60 as a copmplete working set :cool:

Look at modifying the frame from the top of the wheel arch in the current frame and box the rest of the frame. That is the plan with my rear 4 link setup.

Good luck with the build and post lots of pics.

BTW...do an interior cage... they are way more cool that a gay exo-cage.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Merc69/DSCN1867.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Merc69/DSCN1866.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Merc69/DSCN1865.jpg

[lasinvegas]

Nice build up merc. Only reason I am going to do the wag instead of the 715 is so I can have a back seat for the kiddos. I'm always more worried about the safety aspect of the rig than any thing else. I am with you on an internal cage versus an exo.

[rockrat]

Rockwells are always cool...there have been a couple of people do it here. They are the next step if I ever break the 14 bolt and 60...of course if I can score a set and have the play budget to do it I may put a set in before I break something. Then I could sell the 14 bolt and Dana 60 as a copmplete working set :cool:

Look at modifying the frame from the top of the wheel arch in the current frame and box the rest of the frame. That is the plan with my rear 4 link setup.

Good luck with the build and post lots of pics.

BTW...do an interior cage... they are way more cool that a gay exo-cage.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Merc69/DSCN1867.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Merc69/DSCN1866.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Merc69/DSCN1865.jpgLove that cage, one of the better I've seen on a full size, especially the door openings, that way you could run with doors off and still be protected:thumbsup:

[shadowjeep]

the only problem with the rocks is you really need to make larger cuts than you initially want. i started out wanting to dovetail mine and one cut lead to another and before i knew it all i had left was a floorboard from the b pillar back. now im working on the front. putting a rock up front is a challenge in itself. im also linking it too.