The Old Girl is coming along..

[Gambler68]

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Fitted the front clip parts for the first time. I think it looks pretty mean. Some trimming is certainly needed when mating M715 fenders to other civi parts but nothing major. Those are 30x9.50s on the front, and man they look tiny. Planned is 33x12.50s on a chero WT front diff. Should fill it out a wee bit better. What I *want* to do is put the HD44 8lug front I have and a matching 4.10 geared D60 in the rear, and run 35s but not there yet monetarily wise.

The truck is sporting a one off Tadworks 2" steel body lift. The frame and drivetrain is 68 J3000, cab and thriftside bed (not shown) are 65 J300 vintage, rear diff is a truck D44 with 3.54s. Looking at slapping a fron 70s Wt chero d44 to get it on the road, and 3/4 ton conversion maybe someday in the future unless I do that with my 78 J10 shorty. (edit: truck now has 1975 HD44 front and 1973ish Jeep Dana 60 rear, 4.10s, 3/4 ton)

This will be getting a M715 front brushguard I have, rhino conversion, and hopefully some sorta decent front frame bumper (3 piece wont look right with the body lift and doesnt protect much..)

[addicted]

That is going to look pretty sweet when it is done! :cool:

[bigun]

Crom's M715 fenders were so bad it took 3 of us to get them to line up. Craigs dad and I lifted up and pushed in while Craig got the bolts started. That is when we decided next time would just sawzal the stock fenders and make our flairs

[Gambler68]

Crom's M715 fenders were so bad it took 3 of us to get them to line up. Craigs dad and I lifted up and pushed in while Craig got the bolts started. That is when we decided next time would just sawzal the stock fenders and make our flairs

yeah I tried doing that alone and it was a no go. I had to trim about 2" of the inner fender flare from the top down to the cab corner and they go on..also a small notch for the fender flare in the front support and the lips on the corners of the air intake areas have to hammered flat..pretty much popped on after that. You can see the front bracket doesnt line up at all, I guess M715 have different lips maybe at the bumper. But its gettin there :)

[Tad]

Looking good Ryan :thumbsup:

I think I have that same pile of wire under the J2K.

[men in black]

So whats the ETA on GITTEN R DONE

Looking good man :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Looking good Ryan :thumbsup:

I think I have that same pile of wire under the J2K.

Lol most of that is the rear harness! I bought 25' of trailer wiring to redo it.

MIB: ETA...optimally by spring. Realistically by July. Besides body stuff which is no big deal, I have too:
1: wire it. Won't be too bad
2: plumb it. Gas will be a snap. Got a nice Holley Red Top, just need hose and filters
3: brakelines. Sorta scary on that. But I hypothetically have enough old ones here to get it working. At least I'll get the handbrake set up first. :eek:
4: rebuild the rear drums. Not excited about that.
5: windshield and interior, plop the thriftside bed on it, etc etc.
6: little spot weld on the clutch linkage and that should be good to go
7: top off the fluids and see what explodes a mile down the road :D
8: I could drive it in 2WD as it is with mismatched diffs, of course the big $$ and effort will be setting up a proper matched front end. Lacking welding skills means that has to be jobbed out. Have some local options on that.

I wish I had the time and $$ to do a 100% resto/build on it, it sure deserves it. But its just a truck.. :rolleyes:

[KaiserMan]

Looking good there!

That sits pretty nice and looks great in that color.

Can't wait to get my LWB thriftside mobile.

[thomastenn]

it needs those iceland baloon tires would look killer

[Gambler68]

Looking good there!

That sits pretty nice and looks great in that color.

Can't wait to get my LWB thriftside mobile.

Thanks! Yeah Rusto Gloss Almond :thumbsup:

Yeah good luck on yours! LWB Thriftys are the rare ones :thumbsup: I plan on lining the inside of mine with 3/4" plywood and watersealing it. The metal is like tinfoil :( Got enough paint on it so not worried about rot for the forseable future, although its pretty dry here..

[Gambler68]

it needs those iceland baloon tires would look killer

hahahha tell me about it. 33x12.50s even are woefully small, it's beggin for 37's. Oh well..someday.

[thomastenn]

well the 39.5 military tires are usually cheap enough just need the 20 inch beadlocks for them

[Chrome]

Coming along nicely!! That inspires me to put up my Deer rifle and get back on the Cherokee project. :fsj:

[bigun]

Hmm I don't have access to a heavy duty 44 but I do know where there is one with 4.10 gears in it with a passenger side drop. Then all you would need is the outers to make it an 8 lug.

[incommando]

Looking good.

For less than $500 you can have 4 37" tires on humvee beadlocks from that 406YJ guy on pirate. He was great to deal with.

[bigun]

Looking good.

For less than $500 you can have 4 37" tires on humvee beadlocks from that 406YJ guy on pirate. He was great to deal with.
I wish I had an extra 500!!

[grand_wag_85]

Looks good Ryan! If I can do brake lines you can do brake lines.:p

[red mistress]

yes sir re.... taking shape. :)


Don't put the big tires on until last, seems like once someone puts final tires & wheels on they think it's finished....and progress stops.

[Gambler68]

Hmm I don't have access to a heavy duty 44 but I do know where there is one with 4.10 gears in it with a passenger side drop. Then all you would need is the outers to make it an 8 lug.

Yeah big tires will be the last step well after everything else is taken care of. 33's are fine for what I want to do with it for now.


I have a 8lug HD44, pass side drop, and a matching geared D60 here that keep giving me sad looks and saying "uuussseee meeee" but for now they are just taking up space. I bit much for the pair ($400) and the D60 came with completely empty drums (surprise!) so a few more hundred in a disc brake conversion would be optimal.

I just wanna get it going with the 1/2 ton running gear because I need to have a dang truck! I'm missing out on all the great junk I could be hauling home! :D

[bigun]

Okay Doaky The one back home is a 6 lug from under Crom when he was a Cherokee

[Gambler68]

Bow before your overlord! :D
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Just slappin some of the bed parts on to see how it looks/lines up. I realllllly need a replacement for that one bashed up fender, I don't even want to waste the sanding discs/paint on it, but oh well.

Check out the locking gas cap :D I bought it for $15 for my volvo, but the moron on ebay had the wrong year listed so it didnt fit the flying brick. Luckily it fit the Glad filler cap perfectly.

My pillars on the bed are rusted bad. Gana cut em out and replace with square tube so I can put some stake side panels on it for dump runs. Bed will be lined with 3/4" plywood with metal L's, bolted through the panels and to the body mounts, and I have a (gasp) 8' JEEP rubber mat to trim to fit for the floor of the bed. I'd sell it, but it weighs a ton, is huge rolled up, and has a small section cut out for a bed mount hitch. So the glad gets it!

Turn the volume down on the video unless you enjoy the best Led Zepplin song ever recorded :D

[68_Gladiator]

2" on the body lift? and how many inches over stock is that suspension? hows the 327 lookin?

[Gambler68]

2" on the body lift? and how many inches over stock is that suspension? hows the 327 lookin?

Yep, 2" lift with about 1/4" more from the rubber pads (barely).

suspension..wellll...i added some thick cj aals to the front, hard to tell until I get matching tires on it (rears are 33s, fronts are 30s I think. Rears I got from a member, amazingly I think they are stock, just not FLAT.

327 is looking might fine, it's basically startable if I had gas to it. Itching for that.

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[68_Gladiator]

im jealous. ive got 2 327's and a one bare block sittin in the driveway. cant wait to get one put in and fire it up. taking the A/C compressor off one and puttin it on the other to use as OBA. and the new 6 blade flex fan will go on as well. just wish i could get my hands on a 4 barrel intake

[Gambler68]

im jealous. ive got 2 327's and a one bare block sittin in the driveway. cant wait to get one put in and fire it up. taking the A/C compressor off one and puttin it on the other to use as OBA. and the new 6 blade flex fan will go on as well. just wish i could get my hands on a 4 barrel intake

just watch Ebay, they come around. Seen em go for 75-300 bux.

[68_Gladiator]

if you see one shoot me an PM as soon as you can, lol

[TexTJ209]

Lookin' good. :)

Do you happen to know if the stake pockets on the Willys era beds are the same as the Thriftside beds? As they sell replacement sheet metal for those...

http://www.walcks4wd.com/product.aspx?pid=3261

[janie]

That's a fine looking rig as it sets right now Ryan. Look forward to seeing the progress on this.

[Gambler68]

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thats the lurking beast as it sits. it's close..swapped in eaton power steering pump, vac brakes, 4 barrel carb and intake (thanks to Ristow for the carb!), new timing chain and all new seals, NOS Champion HY plugs (dig the little sticker on the heater core, these things are older than me and were still in the wrapper)...thing better run like a raped ape! It's hard to keep a list in my head, but many parts on this truck have come from members..that basically new Motorola alternator I got from Tad about 4 or 6 years ago, front valance and neat lil oil cap from Flint, M715 grill from Baybilly, carb from Ristow, cab and bed from Flatbackdragon's adopted son in law or something, tires from Brutus..couldn't have done it without the board support!

yeah I think those stake pockets are the same. $250 bux for four..ouch. Think some square tube will work better and last a bit longer too with real world use.

[Gambler68]

http://www.walcks4wd.com/product.aspx?pid=1390

here's the rubber body mount pads new 2 bux each :rolleyes: not bad really.

[KaiserMan]

Looks good...but your rear shackle angle is seriously out of wack. Flipped it should be pointed down and toward the back a bit.

[Gambler68]

Looks good...but your rear shackle angle is seriously out of wack. Flipped it should be pointed down and toward the back a bit.
I know I couldnt really get em to budge much. Think I have to take em off and try grease em better and see if it'll go on better...postmount springs are sorta hard to install (least I though so)

I think iirc thats the only way the springs fit, although they measured really close to the stock ones. I dunno..

[fulsizjeep]

It is good to knock the dust bunnys and spiders off the Jeep projects when Spring comes around! :thumbsup:

[TexTJ209]

yeah I think those stake pockets are the same. $250 bux for four..ouch. Think some square tube will work better and last a bit longer too with real world use.


Yeah...either way I'm gonna take notes on how you handle yours, as my rear two are a bit chewed up. :fsj:

[Elliott]

The stake pockets are the same as the Willys. Nice progress you're making.

[willam]

http://www.walcks4wd.com/product.aspx?pid=1390

here's the rubber body mount pads new 2 bux each :rolleyes: not bad really.

Just grab a mud flap off an old trailer....they are nice and thick. Best of all is the price, I found mine on the side of Route 287.

[Gambler68]

Yeah I cut a few out of an old MT tire.

I just took a 6' prybar and flipped the shackles up, sits a bit lower but at least it's correct now :o Maybe my shocks will fit now..

[jaber]

I do wish I could find one of those beds. It's going to be a nice truck when you get it there...:thumbsup:

[NVJEEPER]

Looks GREAT!!! Them Willys fenders way off the tire is ....cool!!!

[J.J.]

Lookin' good.

[Ugly Truck Nut]

I do wish I could find one of those beds. It's going to be a nice truck when you get it there...:thumbsup:

+1

[Gambler68]

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Sadly not the progress I intended, but its creeping along. Just got this door done enough to mount, inside of it is painted black so that accentuates the shadows in door line..plus it seems maybe later doors had skinnier posts at the windshield line..quite a gap but you can see the rest of is lined up really good. Good enough for me! Tint is in good shape, these are off a 78 Cherokee. Door panels on the inside will be that desert camo that was floating around here last year :)

Those dink tires annoy me. I decided to go ahead and 3/4 ton it with the matching HD44 and D60 I have here in 4.10 gearing. saving up for cj perches and rear D60 disk brake kit (if I can find one for a dodge D60..). Although, if anyone reading has the guts to D60 drums, I'd do that. Mine came completely empty :/

[J300Zack]

Nice to see you post some more progress on this truck. I'm in progress of a thriftside myself. Trying to get motivated to do things. Your thread helps...haha good job so far!!

[Gambler68]

Thanks Zack! Just got the drivers door done and should hang it tomorrow. Next is windshield and the cab is buttoned up.

Really at this point I am stalled with the front and rear axles, need to get mounts and weld em up. Hopefully by fall I can have it movable under its own power, and road ready by spring.

[wickedwagon767]

Lookin' good there Gambler:thumbsup:

Have you not tried to find D60 drums and hardware either on ebay or on www.ramchargercentral.com (http://www.ramchargercentral.com) where someone has gone to discs?

[68_Gladiator]

Thanks Zack! Just got the drivers door done and should hang it tomorrow. Next is windshield and the cab is buttoned up.

Really at this point I am stalled with the front and rear axles, need to get mounts and weld em up. Hopefully by fall I can have it movable under its own power, and road ready by spring.


or you could send it to me :thumbsup: where did you get your eaton ps pump? tryin to find one for the 67'

[drlocke]

Look out for those old Hornet 327s; they can be full of surprises--some good, some not so good. I assume you've done the chain/sprockets upgrade...

[Gambler68]

Yeah Dave, I pulled off the timing cover, and it DIDN'T have a fiber sproket..the chain was just junk and had stretched. Put a new one in there and a new seal and called it good.

Sorry, the Eaton came from..6' away off my spare 327. I'd hunt down some mid 60s wags with the 327 and snag one off those. Also you can look in AMC cars, the Ambassadors with 327s would have the same one. 70s saginaw PS hoses thread right in, no need to go paying silly money for NOS stuff (worked for me anyways, just a little long).

K so..latest update, DOORS and facelift. Thanks to Sean (grandwag85) for the donated Rhino grille, Thomas (Kaiserman) for the headlight rings and pieplates), Pam and Alan (NE715) for the killer air cleaner. And past thanks to Chuckchili for the completely non sagged rear springs, Ristow for the carb, Tad for parts many years ago that ended up on this, etc etc. Takes a village to build a dinosaur :P

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Got lucky with the pass side door and it went on smooth. Been fighting the past hour with the drivers door, but I have it lined up 'good enough'. Have to replace the door part of the latch, got one pulled and ready to attempt re-install in this. The doors are off a 78 Cherokee, and seem to fit okay.

That black thing on the front is a section of 75 Cherokee WT rear frame that I made fit on there as sort of a bumper. Plans are for a big ole FU piece of C channel eventually.

The dinky front 44 will soon be swapped for a 4.10 geared GM HD44 as soon as I procure a matching D60 for the rear. That should help fill up the huge openings. Getting closer..drivers front M715 fender will go on as soon as I get my clutch linkage set up at the proper angle and then onto putting together a hood for it..

[fulsizjeep]

Lookin Good Brutha
When ya gonna get the 327 started up?

[Gambler68]

Lookin Good Brutha
When ya gonna get the 327 started up?

Soon as I figure out the vac lines and fix the clutch linkage and finish the little bit of fuel lines and hang a tank... Provided the wiring doesn't go up in flames from something hooked up weird :P

[fulsizjeep]

Cool. I'd like to be there when you fire it up. With an estinguisher in hand. :D
Lemme know :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Cool. I'd like to be there when you fire it up. With an estinguisher in hand. :D
Lemme know :thumbsup:

Lol deal.

[Tad]

...Tad for parts many years ago that ended up on this...
Looks very good :thumbsup:
I'm very pleased you are using that stuff instead of it getting recycled into a toaster.

[Gambler68]

Heck ya!! I am waiting to order some front CJ width spring pads from ya, gotta see where the pass side will sit in regards to the cast mount on the HD44. I have a pair of your D44 7" pads for the back, was just going to widen the curve on the feet so they fit the D60. Looks very good :thumbsup:
I'm very pleased you are using that stuff instead of it getting recycled into a toaster.

[brubakes]

Looks great. I love seeing the progress.

[Tad]

Heck ya!! I am waiting to order some front CJ width spring pads from ya, gotta see where the pass side will sit in regards to the cast mount on the HD44...
My thinking is you are going to wind up on the tube, but yea, let's wait and see, might be a new version for the front post mount trucks.

...I have a pair of your D44 7" pads for the back, was just going to widen the curve on the feet so they fit the D60.
Yep, pretty simple, you'll be taking out about 3/16" on each side of the lower curve and tapering up to the existing cut.

[Gambler68]

My thinking is you are going to wind up on the tube, but yea, let's wait and see, might be a new version for the front post mount trucks.


Yep, pretty simple, you'll be taking out about 3/16" on each side of the lower curve and tapering up to the existing cut.

Sweeeeet. Yeah with the outboard springs it should clear it but want to line it up and see. Since I need to roll the truck in and out of the garage to work on it, sorta waiting till D-day on that.

Got the latch hardware swapped out on the door, definately NOT a hard job and didn't even require looking at schematics..it' pretty much a 1 monkey job.

Now it's siesta time :thumbsup:

[grand_wag_85]

That grille looks good:thumbsup:

[newtojeeps]

Are you going to widen the rear fenders? you might rub when you articulate

[Gambler68]

Are you going to widen the rear fenders? you might rub when you articulate

probably won't cut them considering what they are worth. Ultimately I would like to either find a M715 bed or fab round M715 style rear flares. Most likely the latter.

Plus this puppy won't be articulating that much ;)

[Carleysjeep]

Looking good Ryan! :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

thank! Hope to have it at Ouray next year!
Looking good Ryan! :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

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Gah...I planned on having this done this time LAST year..but decided to go 3/4 ton while it was under the knife.

Anyways that's a GM HD44 4.09 8 lug set up for high steer (although I'm starting to wonder if I'll need a spacer..won't know. No one's posted about ever doing this swap while keeping the outboard 2" springs..we'll see soon).

It's all rolled in the garage, next step is to drop the old 44, fit the awesome Tad 2" perches on the Hd44, and see what lines up.

Rear is getting a D60..thought I had a perfect coming from a member, but that's obviously not happening, so going to use a dodge one I have that came sans brakehardware a few years ago from another member (gee thanks man). Pricing ready to go loaded drum backing plates at 400 dollars, it's same amount to do a disc brake conversion (70 for brackets, 150 for loaded calipers, 80 for rotors and toss in another 30 or so for misc crap). It'll need a 1310 yoke and perches welded on that too (have Tad's 7" antiwrap 1" lift ones for that...burly units to say the least).

Time to start grindin' and tack weldin'. Ouray 2010 or Bust :thumbsup:

[grand_wag_85]

Lookin' good!

[men in black]

I hope that's not a couch in the back :D

[Long&Low]

I ran one of those air cleaners back in the day, one on a Lincoln and two on a tunnel ram set up on a 440. Be careful with back fires, if that is the original foam element than do catch on fire.....

Truck looks good.

[JeepBountyHunter]

Whoa now that's gonna look really good!

[Gambler68]

I hope that's not a couch in the back :D


:P no, but I need a couch! Spare headliner panels.

Thanks guys. Itchin to get this piggy done! I can't believe how much oil can leak out of a 327 over 2 years..there must be a hidden 55 gallon drum in there somewhere.

[Casey]

:thumbsup:


I picked up a Dodge D60 to throw under my J truck and realized after that it isn't wide enough between the backing plates to clear the springs. :banghead: IIRC there is 53" from outside to outside on the truck springs. That put the perches dang near against the backing plates on the Dodge truck D60.

You did measure that..right?

[Gambler68]

:thumbsup:


I picked up a Dodge D60 to throw under my J truck and realized after that it isn't wide enough between the backing plates to clear the springs. :banghead: IIRC there is 53" from outside to outside on the truck springs. That put the perches dang near against the backing plates on the Dodge truck D60.

You did measure that..right?


Hmm..think I did. Pretty sure I came up with 55 or so. I'll recheck that..originally got it for putting under my Cherokee. I am going to do a disc brake conversion on it..the dodge hubs wrap back in towards the spring (fat lip). I know when I compared to the j10 d44 it was .5 inch narrower so called it good.

[SVO42]

Lookin' good!

Man, everyone is getting or showing off their J-trucks and I already want one (J-20). You guys just keep adding to the fire! :p

Ryan, even though it looks like you already have an axle, have you considered a Sterling axle from a Ford? I'm using one for my Explorer. The one I have (SRW F-350) is 66.5" WMS-WMS. Not sure about the spring pad spacing--I can probably check this weekend if you want. Sterling bonuses: beefy, common, don't have to pull hubs to do brakes! The one I got was already a 4.10 ratio. It's getting 5.38s, though.

[Gambler68]

Lookin' good!

Man, everyone is getting or showing off their J-trucks and I already want one (J-20). You guys just keep adding to the fire! :p

Ryan, even though it looks like you already have an axle, have you considered a Sterling axle from a Ford? I'm using one for my Explorer. The one I have (SRW F-350) is 66.5" WMS-WMS. Not sure about the spring pad spacing--I can probably check this weekend if you want. Sterling bonuses: beefy, common, don't have to pull hubs to do brakes! The one I got was already a 4.10 ratio. It's getting 5.38s, though.


I hadn't considered it no. Not a bad idea, but I sorta like the idea of running the same discs front and rear, GM 3/4 ton stuff. Also, does the ford use standard 8 lug pattern like chevy and dodge? (although I found the dang studs on the dodge axle are smaller, those need to be pounded out and replaced, which isn't a bad idea anyways to use longer ones).

[SVO42]

Also, does the ford use standard 8 lug pattern like chevy and dodge?

Up until '99, yes. 8 on 6.5". With the advent of the "Superduty" moniker in '99 it went to 8 on 170mm. :confused: The shafts are nice and beefy, too. 1.5" diameter and 35 spline. :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Up until '99, yes. 8 on 6.5". With the advent of the "Superduty" moniker in '99 it went to 8 on 170mm. :confused: The shafts are nice and beefy, too. 1.5" diameter and 35 spline. :thumbsup:


Interesting, I will keep that open as an option. Certainly are tons of Fords out here.

[Gambler68]

One more step done..time for lunch!

Man it looked so cool with the 315/75/16 rollers under there, filled up them M715 wheelwheels alot better than 30's :D

just some fuzzy blackberry pics best I could get in the garage. Tie rod should clear but it looks like I'm in the market for a spacer for the steering arm. At least the studs are long enough to put one on..they'll be flush with the top of the stud end but this isn't a daily driver.

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next step..fit in and tack the 1" lift lift perches...with the outboard 2" FSJ springs I have about 5 inches from center of spring pack bolt to the first inner weld behind the knuckles on the tube..plenty of room up front :D

Haven't figured out shock tabs, prolly weld on some later

[Lindel]

She's coming along nicely Ryan, good work!

[Tonka J200]

I'm kinda at the same stage with mine - but mine's getting J20 axles.
I got my u-bolt flip kit from Hell Creek today and hope to be fitting the front axle this week.
Hopefully we'll be able to compare them in person next summer...:thumbsup: .

[vintagetrks]

Lookin AWESOME Ryan.:thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Thanks for the words of encouragement, they go a long way towards getting me working on this.

Yeah Tonka, I have the same kit (thanks Chuckchili!) and it looks really nice. going to fit that tomorrow. And start double checking the dodge rear D60 and see if it'll work. That'll be a huge hunk of change to set up, but it can be fitted in and at least have empty brake drums for it to be a roller till I piece together disc brakes for it.

Basically, I'm going to bolt it up with the ubolts (just a little tight, not enough to stretch em), get it dead nuts, and tack weld the mounts. Then make a call to my gf's uncle who has a huge mega welder on a trailer to come over and stack some dimes.

Then I get to order a spacer and steering arm I guess..unless I can make something work with the crap laying around here.

[Gambler68]

well the front looks nice with the Hell Creek plates, test fitted them sorta as it sits and will be fine.

Casey..you were right about the rear D60 I have..too freaking narrow..the spread on the Glad's ubolts is 54 inches, and axle flange to axle flange is just about 55". So I don't know if even with a disc brake conversion the tires would fit without being on the springs (and I plan on running a pair of nice overloads that Flint gave me). The D60 is PERFECT for a Cherokee, which is what I bought it for originally anyways. Oh well..start looking for a 14 bolt I guess..Have one under a 83 G30 van but unsure of gear ratio, will have to go check that out. Thanks for bringing that up man.

[Gambler68]

hmm..van is a 78 G30 and it IS the 14 bolt FF..but backing plate to backing plate is only an inch wider than the D60 I have at the flanges, although the pirate link says the WMS is supposed to be 70". Also looks like it uses rims that have extremely shallow backspacing. No gear ratio tag on it either..pretty much a 'screw it'.

bah.

[Gambler68]

not too much progress, for lack of trying. rear end hunting still, another local yard has a slew of fords willing to be parted out. Got a steel Aerotank to use as a main tank, will tuck that up in the rear part of the bed underneath for more traction, being so shallow and with the 2" bodylift it should tuck up nicely.

[Gambler68]

hahahha tell me about it. 33x12.50s even are woefully small, it's beggin for 37's. Oh well..someday.

irony!

[NVJEEPER]

What...:confused: them rollers are not on there yet?

[Gambler68]

Finally got the front 2" perched tacked on (my cat most likely could have done better welding, but it should serve the purpose), HC ubolt kit fitted in (had to grind grooves in the thick AALs I used to beef the front pack..proper new springs are on the menu), and one tire mounted up. Need to roll it out soon and have a welder swing by to finish the mounts, need to order a spacer or another raised steering arm since mine wont cut it, and the arm from the pitman to the steering. Easy peasy! :rolleyes:

and the search continues for a proper rear 3/4 ton D60/D70/14bolt..sigh..

[Gambler68]

What...:confused: them rollers are not on there yet?

Can't get it outta the garage on 38's!!!! have some 35" rollers that may, just may cut it..or the sawzall will, one of the two.

[Gambler68]

some pics I guess for the thread..

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[Ristow]

add-a-leafs?!?!? eeeeewwww!!!!

[Gambler68]

add-a-leafs?!?!? eeeeewwww!!!!

I am still waiting for my free voucher for new HellCreek front springs :P

It's ok though..I am going for 'rides like a tractor' vs 'flexy rock machine' with this one..you should see the overloads I have for the rear!

[fulsizjeep]

AALs ain't so bad Mr Pillow Top Seats. :p

The 2" add a leafs from Rusty's are same thickness (not so stiff) as the stock spring and full length. I call those thick ones overload springs because they increase load rate (stiff) even more.

The Cherk I am junking had the overloads on the back. I cut the spring pins on the spring packs and one of the overloads was broke in 2 through the pin hole. :rolleyes:

Ryan - ya gots to start somewhere with the welding mang. At least the cat was not set on fire. :D

[Gambler68]

Ryan - ya gots to start somewhere with the welding mang. At least the cat was not set on fire. :D

he was watching in fear from the porch and eying the duct tape. I was tempted.

Yep..splatter tack welds will work for now. Sure am glad I bought a can of silicon spray and a pack of new contact tips. And hey..only blinded myself ONCE! I think that's good..

[Tonka J200]

What're your plans for mounting the front shocks?

[Gambler68]

What're your plans for mounting the front shocks?

Shocks? We don't don't need no steekin shocks! ;)

There may be enough room to weld in tabs..had to grind off the chevy ones, they did not work with the Glad's outboard springs.

[Ristow]

Shocks? We don't don't need no steekin shocks! ;)




not with those add-a-leafs you don't.

now,air ride seat is another thing.....

[Tonka J200]

Shocks? We don't don't need no steekin shocks! ;)

There may be enough room to weld in tabs..had to grind off the chevy ones, they did not work with the Glad's outboard springs.

Mine's got the "Flex? What flex?" suspension too.
The outboard springs and the Hell Creek spring plates make it pretty tight to find room for the shock tubes with an open knuckle axle. I think I've got mine figured out but don't want to do the final welding until I get the actual shocks and make sure everything clears.

[Gambler68]

Mine's got the "Flex? What flex?" suspension too.
The outboard springs and the Hell Creek spring plates make it pretty tight to find room for the shock tubes with an open knuckle axle. I think I've got mine figured out but don't want to do the final welding until I get the actual shocks and make sure everything clears.

Be sure to share what you find out! I'll have to give it a good staredown and think about that myself.

[COLOFIREMAN]

Rear is getting a D60..thought I had a perfect coming from a member, but that's obviously not happening.


Ryan I won't bore with the reason's but all I have to say is sorry I couldn't bring it then.

I don't think it'll do you any good now but I did measure that axle I have. It's 55" between the backing plates but 57" between the axle flanges if you take the backing plates off and do the disc brake conversion. Hope this helps. It might be too late but once my Dodge is fixed I could still run it down to you now that my life has calmed down a lot. http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd218/COLOJEEPGUY2K/Emotions/knokwood.gif

[Gambler68]

Ryan I won't bore with the reason's but all I have to say is sorry I couldn't bring it then.

I don't think it'll do you any good now but I did measure that axle I have. It's 55" between the backing plates but 57" between the axle flanges if you take the backing plates off and do the disc brake conversion. Hope this helps. It might be too late but once my Dodge is fixed I could still run it down to you now that my life has calmed down a lot. http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd218/COLOJEEPGUY2K/Emotions/knokwood.gif

no worries man, I was just griping at the time. Yeah I need something wider for sure, have some local options just have to scrape up the dough.

[Gambler68]

Just updating my thread here..

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still looking for something to stuff in the rear..

[COLOFIREMAN]

Need to throw a couple of bright colored panels on it while it's in your yard, or the HOA hounds or code nazi's will find you...http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd218/COLOJEEPGUY2K/Emotions/rules.gif



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[Gambler68]

Need to throw a couple of bright colored panels on it while it's in your yard, or the HOA hounds or code nazi's will find you...http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd218/COLOJEEPGUY2K/Emotions/rules.gif



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Lol I live on the rez dude. They include a Camaro on cinderblocks here with every new house built :P

[Gambler68]

A little progress...put in a new to me windshield (thanks Tad!) and some 82 J10 seats I had from a part out long ago. Only one bracket on the drivers seat has to be swapped from a TH400 era Fsj (which I had, thanks Flint!). Taking a break for lunch, pass. side seat will be in shortly.

I was going to put in Toyo Celica seats I have, but decided to save them for my other 79 Cherokee project that is languishing in the backyard. These actually 'feel' right sitting in the truck, perfect height and they aren't broke down in the springs. Just had to drill mounting holes.

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[Tad]

You are most welcome for the glass.
It's looking pretty good there.

[JeepBountyHunter]

Looking good, Trellis8 included the same style buckets with the J200...I keep thinking find a bench for it, but you changed my mind, those seats should work out fine.

[fulsizjeep]

Only one bracket on the drivers seat has to be swapped from a TH400 era Fsj (which I had, thanks Flint!)LOL, we have swapped so many parts between us that I don't know where one FSJ begins and another ends. :p Good to see more progress! :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Looking good, Trellis8 included the same style buckets with the J200...I keep thinking find a bench for it, but you changed my mind, those seats should work out fine.

Yeah I got em both in (I'll snap another pic). Because I am 6'2 I had to position them a little oddly, so they aren't straight, but only a really critical eye could tell :) The seats look and feel really good in there, I always hated the bench seat that came with it stock. Gotta figure out some seatbelts though...

I'm thinking black/woodgrain door panels, black wheel, and tan rug kit from BJ's someday. Need to find some early style FSJ windowshield thingies (not awake), later style are too long..sunshades, thats it. OH and seatcovers..seats are not broken down bad, but drivers is a little tore up.

Hey Flint, I found the build sheet for whatever FSJ (think Phoebe) tucked in the springs of those lowback black seats you gave me!

[fulsizjeep]

Hey Flint, I found the build sheet for whatever FSJ (think Phoebe) tucked in the springs of those lowback black seats you gave me!From Kozmo, the 401 donor. Wow, gotta have it please, please, please. :thumbsup:

[Tad]

...Need to find some early style FSJ windowshield thingies (not awake), later style are too long..sunshades, thats it...
I'll dig around when I get back from this weekends wedding trip.
I think I have some that either Janie or RMorit sent me.
I'm running '82 Chero visors in the '70, just needed a little trimming and a longer screw to hold up the center bracket.

[JeepBountyHunter]

Yeh the one's I have are loose for the moment and I noted I have to move them back a bit, since I'm 6'3.

[Gambler68]

JBH: here's some pics to ease your decision :D
Tad-thanks! I need the early ones for sure, using the original mirror/mount as you can see. I have a mint pair of 82 tan ones to trade, or if anyone needs em.
Flint: it's pretty brittle and crumbly, but I will put it aside :)

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[Gambler68]

BLAM. Sitting on a 71 D60 FF with 4.10 gears. Thanks to everyone that made this last major link come together. Those are worn out Super Swamper 38x15.50 on 16.5 rims fyi...look so small on the truck. Think I'm sticking with that size, depending on how the drivetrain likes em.

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[fulsizjeep]

yeowza! :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

now for:
front hi steer linkage
gas tanks installed
rear shocks
rear brake line system
clutch linkage setup
custom front shock towers+shocks
tidy up electrical system and wire rear of truck
rebuild front HD44 axle shafts and possibly swap in 4.10 r+p
disc brake kit the rear

oh yeah so close :cool: :rolleyes:

[Knuck]

That looks killer Ryan!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[TacticallyCool]

That is one tough looking truck

[Gambler68]

Thanks! I'm trying to keep it pretty much fictional period partswise. Besides the 82 seats, the holley red top pump, and the 74 HD44..and the 71 D60..it's all from the 60s. Sorta my opinion on what Jeep should have built :thumbsup: Frankenstein trucks can actually come out good looking sometimes :D

It looks awesome in person. Exact perfect rake even. I'm really stoked about it.

[COLOFIREMAN]

Looking great!!! Ouray 2011 here you come!;) :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Looking great!!! Ouray 2011 here you come!;) :thumbsup:

Got a lot to do but at least it's getting to the end! The big thing will be to see if the old Eaton pump will put enough out to run the saginaw box that is underpowered already to move those 38's..I've been eying the big Eatons on GMC dumptrucks..my dad has one but didnt get enough time to dig at it..ram assist is another option..never ends..

[Elliott]

Ryan, there is a place here in TX that I think can rebuild that Eaton to put out more flow/pressure.

Give these guys a call if you want to check into it:

Precision Products
24165 IH-10 West
Suite 217-282
San Antonio, Texas 78257-1159
210 - 687 - 1313
stanger53@gmail.com

http://www.stangerssite.com/EPrebuilding.html (http://www.stangerssite.com/EPrebuilding.html)

[Gambler68]

Thanks for the link! I'll come back to that when she's movin.

What I was babbling about a few posts up..my dad has an old GMC dumptruck with what looks to be a 454 in it..I was eying it this spring when back east, and the Eaton pump in it looks just like the 327, but bigger. Considering a AMC 327 and GM454 are close to the same size...possibility?

[Gambler68]

Happy to report my stock driveshaft lines right up..expected a bigger yoke on the D60 but it looks like it'll bolt up. If not, spicer makes a cheater ujoint for 38 bux.

[firecaptain13]

Make sure its the right u-bolt with no slop in the ends. Not a good lesson to learn on the trail

[Gambler68]

Make sure its the right u-bolt with no slop in the ends. Not a good lesson to learn on the trail

yeah I just fit it in there, haven't bolted yet. Was worried I'd have to shorten the DS but it's dang perfect lengthwise.

[red mistress]

AMC cars & Ford Mustang also used the Eaton pump.

1500 PSI is highest factory Eaton PS pump that I have found.

[jode]

Phat rig :D

That black thing on the front is a section of 75 Cherokee WT rear frame that I made fit on there as sort of a bumper. Plans are for a big ole FU piece of C channel eventually.

Just my $.02
C-channel for bumpers sucks. This is coming from someone who used to own one. Back before I had really ever though about C-channel, I thought it would make for a cheap, quick bumper, but the facts are otherwise. What they make for is cheap, heavy, weak bumpers. In my mind, heavy and weak are a bad combo.
Comparatively speaking, a section of 2X4 steel would be virtually the same price, untold factors stronger, and lighter. The thing about C-channel that I hadn't realized in my youth is that the "wall thickness" is not even across the channel. The metal is thick in the corners and thin on the edges. I guess that is fine and all, but it makes it heavy for the gauge you are useing and in order to get something that (in my opinion) would be of suitable strength for a bumper, you would have to go with something that would be nearly 1/4" thick at the thin part. That would mean the thick part would be getting closer to nearly 1/2" thick. I know there are those who may disagree, but I just think a piece of 2X4 tubing with maybe a wall thickness of 3/16" would be stronger, more aesthetically pleasing, and lighter. Once you weld some "caps" over the ends of it, and especially if you put a little angle on the ends, it can come out looking like a fairly decent bumper. The labor is about the same, the materials cost almost the same and the result is way better.

Can you tell yet that I am opposed to C-channel bumpers? :eek:

/rant - you may proceed

[COLOFIREMAN]

Any updates Ryan??

[Gambler68]

Nope...need to buy the 315 dollar disc brake kit from the dude on Pirate, and another 200 for the front steering stuff. ":( Rear drum on the D60 is frozen up so the old girl is sitting under the tree for the winter I guess.

[Gambler68]

not really an update, just trying to get me "Finish" list down in the thread, since I'm tired of re-doing it in my head. Feel free to comment.

In matter of Priority to Purchase:
D60 rear disc kit from pirate guy: 315 shipped BOUGHT 11/26
20' of brakeline (I have plenty of old pieces around but may as well plumb new, I have a flare tool, just need a bender)
conversion cheater Ujoint D44 yoke on shaft, D60 yoke on the D60. need spicer part number (thinks thats the 1330->1350 one?
1974 HD44 axle shaft ujoints (need Spicer part #)
____ HD44 rebuild kit? (seals and bearings)
3/4 ton discs, pads, and calipers for front
DOM tie rod and steering linkage kit (still have to go through my taps and see if I have the right one to do myself, just get TREs and DOM, or may have to get kit from Parts Mike
(4) 37" humvee tires (500 shipped) or mount the 35" KM2s I have already on a set of 8 lug 16" rims (do not have). Will need to replace one Km2.
4 cheap shocks. I don't care about shocks.
2 extended shock towers..either the Ford ones, or fab some up from rectangle stock.
Pertronix Ignition system (replaces points and adds a hot coil) Bought. looks very cool
Work to do:
finish wiring, 90% done
hang gas tank and finish plumbing
procure tail lights
door panels
hitch bumper for the rear
mount or incorporate winch basket into a front bumper
adjust clutch linkage
hope the cobbled Master Cylinder and power booster is good. If not, replace with a new one. Ideally, replace Master Cylinder with one for Disc/Disc, need part number.
pick one of the 5 hoods I have laying around and sand/paint. That blue one is going back on Sundog. The one on sundog with the cool vent holes is getting retired..I messed it up cutting out the side lip and it curled up and looks fugly.

And when it's all mechanically done, get a HF sprayer, a gallon of Rustoleum Gloss Almond, a little thinner, rent a compressor for a day and drop a final coat on the truck, and sit it out in the summer sun to dry :)

A bit daunting, but not bad, come a long way since the spring of 2009.

Other plans:
cut out the bashed rockers and replace with square or rectangle tube (whatever fills up the space).
add 2x2" .125 wall square tube exo-frame to sides of bed for strength and mounting points for fenders, etc. Maybe use 2x4 verticals front back and middle for 'stake' pockets. It would tie in with the M715 'theme' I'm going for (mixing in M715 bits and styling to make a 'civvy' Gladiator version of that truck)

[Josh D]

I sure do like the look of the civy cab on the M715. And with a thriftside box, it'll definetely be one of a kind!:thumbsup:

[Tad]

conversion cheater Ujoint D44 yoke on shaft, D60 yoke on the D60. need spicer part number (thinks thats the 1330->1350 one?
Take and review your measurements carefully, my front 60 actually came with a 1310 yoke. so I run a 1310/1350 joint there I have that part number).
Ideally, replace Master Cylinder with one for Disc/Disc, need part number.
I may have this 'Vette MC here for a disc/disc setup, I'll check and take it up to the F&K run if I do.
mount or incorporate winch basket into a front bumper
I don't think you sent me the number's on the brackets you need, get that done and they can travel also.

[FSJK]

1310-1350 is a Spicer 5-460x (if that's what joint you need)

[Gambler68]

I sure do like the look of the civy cab on the M715. And with a thriftside box, it'll definetely be one of a kind!:thumbsup:


Breakdown:
1968 Frame and drivetrain. 327/t18/d20
1964 Cab and long Thriftside bed
M715 fenders :D

Had I the chance, I would have put a M715 cab on it in a heartbeat. I've been eyeballing this one wondering what a sawzall and a M715 windshield/door swap would end up like..

Tad, will do. A proper MC would rock too! I'll throw a caliper on the yoke and see what I come up with then.

[Gambler68]

Another thing I want to do is use some sort of square or rectangle metal stock and make a ladder type exo-frame on the thriftside sides. Originally I was going to just put 3/4" plywood on the inside, but doing that negates putting a 4x8 sheet flat in there. The frame would give me nice mounting points for wheel flares (gotta cover the meats) and skirting for the frame/bed gap. It'd be simple enough to measure and draw up and have done, or tack weld it together myself and have it welded up, them bolt/tack on the bed.

[Josh D]

Breakdown:
1968 Frame and drivetrain. 327/t18/d20
1964 Cab and long Thriftside bed
M715 fenders :D

Had I the chance, I would have put a M715 cab on it in a heartbeat. I've been eyeballing this one wondering what a sawzall and a M715 windshield/door swap would end up like..


I saw an M715 with a civy cab in a magazine once in full olive drab. It was the best looking M715 I'd seen:thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

I saw an M715 with a civy cab in a magazine once in full olive drab. It was the best looking M715 I'd seen:thumbsup:

I would have liked a M715 bed, but they are extremely heavy and I think even longer than my 8' bed. This one would look almost like a faux one with the exterior frame I am planning, and the fenders catch the eye. For rear flared fenders, I am thinking angled flat diamondplate, or steel like this: /---\, like the original Thriftwide (willys) fenders but longer and wider and much thicker. Depends on what I can find locally for metal..too expensive new and steel doesn't care if it's been owned before or not ;) And some flat plate stock to bolt on and cover the frame gap..not the C-channel box style the original skirting was.

[fulsizjeep]

A bit daunting, but not bad, come a long way since the spring of 2009.SO TRUE! It will be great to see it running again.

[Gambler68]

SO TRUE! It will be great to see it running again.

I'll be ordering the rear brake kit in a week or so. Then it'll get some work thrown at it..with hope of moving and steering under it's own power before the big first snow (assuming that wont happen till..march? :rolleyes: )

[COLOFIREMAN]

I'll be ordering the rear brake kit in a week or so. Then it'll get some work thrown at it..with hope of moving and steering under it's own power before the big first snow (assuming that wont happen till..march? :rolleyes: )
So are you aiming for Ouray 11' or 12'?

[Gambler68]

So are you aiming for Ouray 11' or 12'?

12 unless it gets trailered up for 11. It's going to need a year long shakedown before going anywhere remotely dangerous. (the danger being the chance of losing brakes/steering/etc and plunging off the side of a mountain, either on the way there or when up there). Next year the most I'm bringing is a dog, myself, and my usual Jeep.

[Tigger4X]

SUBSCRIBED, but putting it in brain hibernation so I dont go crazy waiting for the next sweet update. ;)

[Gambler68]

SUBSCRIBED, but putting it in brain hibernation so I dont go crazy waiting for the next sweet update. ;)

Lol sometimes I dread walking outside because it's just sitting there staring at me.

[J10/J20 Project]

Very nice progress there.

Paul

[DAHoyle]

Breakdown:
1968 Frame and drivetrain. 327/t18/d20
1964 Cab and long Thriftside bed
M715 fenders :D

Had I the chance, I would have put a M715 cab on it in a heartbeat. I've been eyeballing this one wondering what a sawzall and a M715 windshield/door swap would end up like..

Tad, will do. A proper MC would rock too! I'll throw a caliper on the yoke and see what I come up with then.
Ryan, I'm thinking about letting my 715 go, if you are interested. Realistically, the only really solid parts are the bed and cab, (the cab needs a little hammer and dolly work, but it isn't bad. Just some damage below the rockers, in the rear of the cab) I'll make you a deal, since you hooked me up before. maybe get into some more swapping.:thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Ryan, I'm thinking about letting my 715 go, if you are interested. Realistically, the only really solid parts are the bed and cab, (the cab needs a little hammer and dolly work, but it isn't bad. Just some damage below the rockers, in the rear of the cab) I'll make you a deal, since you hooked me up before. maybe get into some more swapping.:thumbsup:


Don't do that me!!!! :D Realistically it should probably go to someone who can make something out of it. The most I'd want is the bed, doors, and windshield frame. But the bed would get chopped to fit a J10 SWB. Then I'd chop the 78 J10 cab I have, make a filler plate for the windshield/a pillars being removed, and put that windshield on the J10 cab. That's always been my dream for that truck, but have too much to finish first. (the Gladiator here, another complete 79 Chero WT sitting in the back, the Rambler, The Volvo..)

appreciate the offer tho, if no one takes it off your hands we'll talk next year about it ;)

I mean..I need to have *something* to do in my 40s right? I'm only 36 :D

[Gambler68]

Got $$ in hand and contacted GubNi for a D60 rear disc kit..:thumbsup: $315 to the door, can't beat that even piecing it together and buying brackets somewhere else. After this and tying up the front steering it's down to little stuff which will go a lot quicker..psyched!

[Gambler68]

Disc kit ordered! *snoopy dance*

[Ristow]

pff. aint even got sun visors or a black steering wheel in it. let alone the column valance...

[Gambler68]

pff. aint even got sun visors or a black steering wheel in it. let alone the column valance...

I know!!

And go figure, the day I drop 300 clams on the truck, my video card blows 4 capacitors. I was wondering what those small explosions were..my Dell must have recycled AMC metal in it....

[Gambler68]

Disc kit is enroute.

Soon as I verify I can do full crossover, this looks like the kit I'll go with if I decide not to thread my own: http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-4272428-1-ton-hd-steering-kit.html

[joe]

Love the LWB Thriftsides. I even like the unpretentious color. Thas gonna be a nice truck! :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Love the LWB Thriftsides. I even like the unpretentious color. Thas gonna be a nice truck! :thumbsup:

Thank you! I was wanting something desert themed, and well..Rustoleum Gloss Almond fit like a tee..and is durable and dirt cheap ($40-45 a gallon).

wow..the disc kit is 71lbs and sitting in Memphis. I can't believe they do the free shipping on that kit! Hope it's awesome!

DING:
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Jan update: went through a lot of crap to get (what I hope) is the RIGHT kit for the early D60 8lug narrow drum. Alas, the 60 degree days ended about a week before that was settled, and waiting for the snow to melt to get back at it.

[Gambler68]

welp, got the #'s on the tax return...this piggy is getting finished this spring. :thumbsup:

First up will be the steering kit for the front, ujoints and rebuild kits for the HD4/D60, a high steer spacer and longer studs, a DPA if I need one (I doubt it), and a slew of little crap. Wish me luck!

update on the brake kit: if you have a 71 rear D60 with narrow drums, order the dodge kit/TELL the guy exactly what you have. Went through a lot of annoying crap to get the right parts. He was very quick on working it out though. Later J20 D60s are what his FSJ kits are based on, not the early ones like this one.

[Gambler68]

just throwing stuff in here for m'build notes...

Vatozone 1310-1330 conversion joint: Neapco 1-0134 greasable. $12.49 cheap enough to see if it's what I need. If so I'll run it till it breaks or a get a better quality one.

ordered rear spindle nuts and washers from Rockauto, around 22 bux shipped for both sides. Wicked deal compared to anywhere else...if they fit.

[bigun]

Ran the conversion joint in Crom for 2 years and never broke it

[JeepBountyHunter]

Kewl, seems I had to wait on my tax return for a few things too..lol. Looking back I see you put in pic's of them seats. I'm thinking I'll probably keep mine too.

[Gambler68]

Good to hear Charlie! I havent measured but the driveshaft I have is a 1310, and it fits too loosely in the 71 FF D60 yoke, but not hugely loose, so that must be a 1330. 13 bux isn't a lot to see if it works.

Yeah I like the seats a lot, the pass. side one is mounted a little crooked, may fix that before settling on a floor covering. I need to figure out some seatbelts for it, I'd really like some sort of harness set up.

[Gambler68]

Disc kit is enroute.

Soon as I verify I can do full crossover, this looks like the kit I'll go with if I decide not to thread my own: http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-4272428-1-ton-hd-steering-kit.html


ORDERED!!! can't wait till this comes in. :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

spindle nuts and washers came in...the washers are the right size, but the nuts are too small :/ 2 1/6"...ones I need are a bit larger, alas. Ordered for the year the axle came out of :mad: So beware that on Rockauto..

Now, looking on a 1971 suburban, they use the 2 3/16th size nut with the 4 prongs for the common socket sold for em. Think I'll try these 615-121 outers, 615-120 for the inners. another $30 in the pot...

Spicer axle ujoints came in...nice and burly!!!

Picked up the 1310 conversion joint at Autozone..of course 3 bux more in store than on the website, and not greasable..Brute Force brand. Good enough to see if it's what I need.

edit: dummy me didnt need the 1310/1330 joint..musta eyeballed it wrong. D60 had a 1310 yoke on it, so know I have a spare conversion joint to carry in my wheeling jeep :)

picking up the rest of my lugs tomorrow and will be re-assembling the rear end this week weather permitting.

[Gambler68]

.250 wall tie rod and drag link kit came in the other day from East Coast Gear vendors..with the Pirate discount on shipping cost me $210 with the weld in bungs, 4 tres/jam nuts. VERY nice!!!! Not quite sure the 'procedure' for getting the tires straight (guess I'll just get the measurements even from the inside front and rear of the rims side to side) to get the right lengths for the links, mark em and drop em off to my welder to do up. I also assume I have to ream the draglink for the GM TRE, need to find out what that will require...I have a toolbox full of reamers so hopefully one is correct.

Also picked up rear 3.75 inch round tail/brake/turn lights at Big R Ranch Stores for 7.99 each, going to make up cans for those or mount in the rear bumper (which I haven't made/found/bought yet).

Weather is spring like now, so progress is coming along!

[Gambler68]

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/flatop_knucles.html

throwing this HANDY!!! link for work I'll soon be doing on the front HD44.

[Gambler68]

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Doing little crap on the truck while I wait for the last 13 lugs and nuts I need in the world to be delivered..mounted the fuel pump switch and another accessory switch in the radio holes. That's an old chrome inner bezel from the original radio, going to make a plate that mounts on the inside, and put a small media player in there hooked up to a small amp tucked up in the dash. Likely will make some sort of flip plate to hide the player since it'll clash with the later 60s theme I have going with the truck. Dig the 1776-1976 quarter I used on the left for the switch base..other side is an 81..don't see too many 1968 quarters any more..yeah I was bored enough to commit a felony by defacing US currency :P
The left switch flips up for the Holley red top, and down for a spotlight mounted under the bed..afterthought realized I couldn't use the light without killing the pump, but it's unlikely I'd want to be under it with the beast running anyways. I'm going to tuck two little LEDS in the tube rolls on the willys bed for rear facing lights anyways.

[Charlie_B]

cool idea with the coins. :thumbsup:

project looks like it coming along. Its always those little things that take forever, isnt it?

[Gambler68]

cool idea with the coins. :thumbsup:

project looks like it coming along. Its always those little things that take forever, isnt it?

Thanks! Yeah the little stuff fills up the time well waiting on the big stuff tho :D

[Gambler68]

doing up a hood for the truck...

teaser pic:

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3K%20Build/100_6846.jpg

[fulsizjeep]

tease away bro, good to see you motivated!

[jsinajeep]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/Projects/100_6834.jpg
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http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/Projects/100_6837.jpg

Doing little crap on the truck while I wait for the last 13 lugs and nuts I need in the world to be delivered..mounted the fuel pump switch and another accessory switch in the radio holes. That's an old chrome inner bezel from the original radio, going to make a plate that mounts on the inside, and put a small media player in there hooked up to a small amp tucked up in the dash. Likely will make some sort of flip plate to hide the player since it'll clash with the later 60s theme I have going with the truck. Dig the 1776-1976 quarter I used on the left for the switch base..other side is an 81..don't see too many 1968 quarters any more..yeah I was bored enough to commit a felony by defacing US currency :P
The left switch flips up for the Holley red top, and down for a spotlight mounted under the bed..afterthought realized I couldn't use the light without killing the pump, but it's unlikely I'd want to be under it with the beast running anyways. I'm going to tuck two little LEDS in the tube rolls on the willys bed for rear facing lights anyways.


My dad use to do that with coins. We would go the the hardware or dealership to get something like a washer and they would want like 10 cent or so and he would laugh and say that he would go home and drill out a penny or dime or something.:D

[Gambler68]

My dad use to do that with coins. We would go the the hardware or dealership to get something like a washer and they would want like 10 cent or so and he would laugh and say that he would go home and drill out a penny or dime or something.:D

I must be channeling my inner Yankee! (no offense intended, I am a Yankee) :thumbsup: We all came from the frugal east at some point.

[glady8r]

do the coins bring the value up I may add some to mine:thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Well it's worth 50 cents at least :P

Got the hood done, holes flared, and sanded down the surface rust and sprayed a coat of clear rust converter. Tomorrow it gets primer then a coat of Gloss Almond Rustoleum rolled on this week :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3K%20Build/100_6851.jpg
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reverse order..oh well. It came out good..had to freehand the vent holes with a die grinder bit in my big drill...that was fun. The 'wet' phase is actually a rust converter spray...I LOVE the stuff. None of those spots are raised or sunken. Got a coat of trusty Rusty Gloss Almond on it, will wet sand and likely roll on a real coat later.

[fulsizjeep]

warm enough to paint huh? awesome! :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

warm enough to paint huh? awesome! :thumbsup:
high 60s :thumbsup:

[44BZ]

Your hood is lookin way cool:thumbsup: I thought about adding some vents such as you did or maybe louvers. I think it's GenRight that makes them for Wranglers, but could easily be adapted and I liked the look. My only concern was about water running into the engine compartment. Oregon has a lot more rain, but any thoughts on that?

[Gambler68]

Not really..it doesn't rain that often here. I am putting mesh behind the holes. My cherokee has a full line of holes on either side and I've noticed zero effects after 2 years with no mesh and year round operation. I flare them out so the actual open area isn't flat open to falling rain. They really blow air too, it's cool to start the cherokee up with a foot of powder snow on it and see it whoosh off the hood :D

[Fiodh. Argus]

Looks like you're having way too much fun! This is coming along well!

I've been to Ignacio once, neat area, visited some friends in Bayfield and toured around a bit, went wheelin' in the San Juans. Great stuff.

[Jeepstress]

Lookin' pretty spiffy Ryan! :thumbsup:

[drlocke]

I must be channeling my inner Yankee! (no offense intended, I am a Yankee) :thumbsup: We all came from the frugal east at some point. Well at least we know how best to spend our money.

[Gambler68]

Looks like you're having way too much fun! This is coming along well!

I've been to Ignacio once, neat area, visited some friends in Bayfield and toured around a bit, went wheelin' in the San Juans. Great stuff.

Come on back iffin ya eva wanna try again! :thumbsup:

Besides Ouray and Moab being 3hrs away, we have EXCELLENT wheeling right here. We just don't tell anyone about it :)

[Gambler68]

hub socket arrived today, so wheels will be back on the rear next week, and will tackle installing the .250 wall tie rod and draglink kit that's sitting on my porch :thumbsup: I expect to fire this thing up within a month.

[Gambler68]

Got the read D60 disc brake install just about wrapped up. Got a hood on and made it latchable :P (had to cut a hole in the center top for the rhino style latch setup). Doesn't line up well because there's no inner fender on the drivers side yet (still have some stuff to do in there and need easy access to the engine). I think it's looking pretty mean. Got a ton of stuff to still do but knocking it out day by day.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3K%20Build/IMAG0301.jpg
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[44BZ]

That thing has gone through quite the transformation and looks mean! I'm diggin it:D

[Gambler68]

Thanks! I need to throw in some of the earlier pics of stripping it down, and doing the frame up to where it was in the first pic..that was a ton of work right there.

[Gambler68]

Pulled a gas tank from my 78 J10 today to check it out...virgin! had a couple gallons of ollllld gas in it but somehow it didn't shellac the inside of the tank. No dents or holes or patches or anything, dropped it, dumped it, removed the sender (all that needs is a sock) took it down to the old carwash and blew all the clay off it and the inside too..back home, wetvacced the little bit of water and broken bits of sock/plastic that were it, rattlebombed it black and calling it good. So dry here and windy it'll be bone dry in an hour.

[bigun]

Might ought to se if you can find a can of tank cream to coat the inside to keep it from rusting

[Gambler68]

Might ought to se if you can find a can of tank cream to coat the inside to keep it from rusting

I'll take a look tomorrow when I go sock shopping. Hope that's not a special order deal. It's sat since 1996 with this gas in it, and no gas cap..the hose was clogged with dead flies :P I'm amazed it didnt gunk up or rust. If I cant find anything like that I'll just slosh some dry gas around in it ;)

[tjh9100]

looks great cant wait till I can start body work on my 84 j10 once I finish the motor I will slowly start with the body work and lift Keep it coming and keep us updated

[Gambler68]

Waiting a gas pickup sock from BJs to get here to finish hanging the metal 78 tank. Will have to do some work under the bed to bolt it up..the 1965 bed used a different way of securing the staps then 1978.

Started eyeballing the ECGV draglink kit I got..tapers for the 1 ton GM TRE (which are 1.5" per/foot...whatever angle that ends up being) edit: 7.15 degree flop into the arm I HAVE on the truck, and don't fit all the way down on the extra arm I have in the garage..either way a spacer WILL need to be used. I have a 1" one..may even have to buy a 'raised' arm AND use a spacer (for 3"). fun..more eyeballing needed and measurements taken before knowing much more.

Oh and got a nifty black steering wheel for it from Ristow. A++ and fast shipping
;)

[Ristow]

fast shipping


LOL! 8 month express!!

[44BZ]

What kinda steering wheel did you get? Gonna share any pics??

[Gambler68]

What kinda steering wheel did you get? Gonna share any pics??

A black one, same vintage. I'll post when I get it installed.

[glady8r]

that thing has come a long way and looks mean indeed :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Thanks..finishing up this front steering is the last big hurdle and funds are low, hope it doesn't drag out too long!

[janie]

Ryan, you can come over and work on my .50 cent Honcho any ol time. That's nice work.

[Gambler68]

OK now we're in the home stretch, and one last mega hurdle..the High Steer...

with a stock pitman arm, .250 wall tube UNDER on the arm, and maybe 1/4" clearance over the spring, I am looking at having to raise the high steer arm on the knuckle 1 1/4" at least. Not 1", not 2". And that would require limiting uptravel on that side to..1" or so (because of the 327 crossover pipe is in line with the draglink). Notttt so great for a rockcrawler, but since I'm building this as a sage brush stomper/trail rider I could likely live with that. My spring packs are 2.5" thick and sitting on 1" lift over stock Tad perches (made at CJ spring width). I would have to weld on lift blocks to the already high perches to go under spring with the steering, even a Y-link.

Other options would be seeing how thick HellCreek 4" lift springs are (an expensive option not in the cards) and using lower spring perches (or just grinding the snot out of the radius on these..they're 7" long and have plenty to play with)..or a 1" spacer and cutting a notch out of the .250 tube and welding in flat plate for the span of the sweep going over the spring.

anyone still following this 'logic'? pics to come.

another option would be removing the thick AALs from the front, living with 'rake' (ew) and run it that way just to get it 'set up' with the 1" spacers and studs I already have on another knuckle that I can scab.

[Gambler68]

still playing with spring packs in the front..hopefully can get some hours in on this week...weather is beautiful and still bug free..

[44BZ]

still playing with spring packs in the front..hopefully can get some hours in on this week...weather is beautiful and still bug free..

I don't really have any helpful suggestions for your steering setup, but I'm glad you're still moving forward with it. Keep on, keepin on:thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

I don't really have any helpful suggestions for your steering setup, but I'm glad you're still moving forward with it. Keep on, keepin on:thumbsup:


Budget is down to zero again, but now it's mainly a matter of working with the stuff I have, which is good. Have to knock apart the other high steer knuckle and spacer and studs and swap them over to this one (or just swap out the ball joints..that's almost be easier..) and see if that'll work..got a welder lined up for the highsteer stuff but need to bribe one to come by and do the spring pads..fun stuff!

[44BZ]

What's the happs with this? :D

[Gambler68]

What's the happs with this? :D

I am working on the high steer. I am completely stalled by the lack of a ball joint install/remove kit, and too broke to buy or rent one :/

[44BZ]

[quote=Gambler68]I am working on the high steer. I am completely stalled by the lack of a ball joint install/remove kit, and too broke to buy or rent one :/[/quot

Man, if I had one I'd send it to you but alas I do not...I'm eager for you to get this thing runnin again. I think mine will be followin in your footsteps someday:thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

[quote=Gambler68]I am working on the high steer. I am completely stalled by the lack of a ball joint install/remove kit, and too broke to buy or rent one :/[/quot

Man, if I had one I'd send it to you but alas I do not...I'm eager for you to get this thing runnin again. I think mine will be followin in your footsteps someday:thumbsup:

Yeah, got some other things I can do of course. Tank is all rehabbed, and ready to bolt in and plumb. Pertronix install, some wiring..dang heat has been killer lately. I also need to redo the bearings in the front D44 and get pads, and rebuild the selectable hubs. Hopefully we'll have a long fall this year :)

[Gambler68]

Well..after finally getting my high steer set up with the right lift knuckles and .250 wall dom steering link to the steering box..I've come to the sad conclusion that you cannot do a SOA HD44 swap with 'stockish' height springs by any means. You would need springs made with at least 4" of lift, and with very thick spring leaves, but only a few (certainly not the 6-9 that are in stock packs). SO...I've basically decided to completely remove the 2" springs and post mounts, and salvage spring hangers from a 77 frame I have out back, and put those on hanger under frame. I *think* I won't have any problems with the steering box I swapped in there. I have both that frame, and front frame section cut off a 82 J10 with hangers on that, that I can literally place side to side with the 68 to get proper alignment. All I have to do is get a welder rig over here. This will net me a bit more lift than I planned for, but I have *plenty* of front 2.5" FSJ spring packs here. Any $$ involved (paying a welder) would be less than buying Hellcreek or Alcan 2" lift springs, and still dealing with the finishing fab trying to work around the post mount width. And obviously much better springs for weight. It's a just a big decision right now to cut those posts off, but I think it's the best idea.

Pretty sure this is what Tad did with his, right Tad?

[Gambler68]

2 hours of work..

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/100_6895.jpg
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I may salvage some brackets off one of the parts rigs out back, or look into having some made. Either way it's gotta be free or beer money.

[fulsizjeep]

wow, now ya did it... ;)

[serehill]

That live again. luv that 327.

[hummer010]

Yeah, I just read through this thread, again, for about the fifth time.

I've been eyeing my 14-bolt/10-bolt combo out of a chev 3/4 ton for awhile, and thinking about all the work involved in the swap. Next year ...

[Gambler68]

wow, now ya did it... ;)

yeah...sometimes you gotta give yourself a kick in the rear and just doo eeet.

Sere: I can't wait to fire it
Hummer: 10bolt is the same as a normal D44, and the 14bolt is only good for wheeling with 37" tires or more due to clearance. Now the 14bolt with a pinion guard and a shave, and a D60 or HD44 SOA with chromoly shafts would be good for some skinny 37"s all day long..also the 14B requires a SUF, our frames are far wider than any other manufacturer, learned all that when looking. Jeep D60 is perfect :D I love these huge fat Swampers but it won't be driveable for long with them, likely will end up with a set of Mil Sup 36/37, or if I'm lucky a real set of tires that size. They come up all the time for sale on the Colorado4x4 forum, just gotta have the cash and gas and good timing...

anyways, yanked out a piece of frame from a 82 J10, and found enough common reference points to proceed. Front shackle mount will stick out a hair, rear one will be fine. I have yards of frame sections, boxed and unboxed, so I may start cutting up some reinforcement plates and spacers and doodads and start hunting down a welder guy. Got one with a genny and a big lincoln on a trailer that said he'd come over anytime, let's hope that's true :D

[Gambler68]

ps..that little rivet sticking out is the sole remaining damage from the cow I hit long ago :D

[Tad]

...
Pretty sure this is what Tad did with his, right Tad?
Yes.
Too bad the frame was rusted out, but it lives on as parts in CA.

[Gambler68]

how I'm lining things up. Differences between a 68 J3000 frame and a 82 J10 SWB frame are minimal in the front. Some holes are the same but not many. The threaded bumper bracket holes are identical (circled in red)

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notes:

basically I'm using the center of the rad support and the center of those threaded holes as base points since the front clips are the same 63-91

Newer shock towers will bolt on with two of the holes for proper sweep back positioning. 3rd hole will need to be drilled or likely just a weld at the bottom.

The recessed areas on the 82 are the holes that Tad uses for the steering brace IIRC, as one can see, that doesn't exist on a first gen frame.

It looks like GEN2 motor mount arms for I6/360/401 years would bolt in fine with the addition of one hole drilled.

Brake line brackets and bumpstops would have to be added as well, all in different spots.

[Gambler68]

Spring hangers are sitting in a box and waiting for these stupid El Nino rains to give me a break :) Thanks Tad! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Tad]

...Thanks Tad! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Anytime.
Hollar if you need the numbers from my hanger placement.

[Gambler68]

Right so..got the gas tank hung, and finally tackled the 'too short clutch rod' problem..12.05 in parts and an hour of puttering around got me a 'new' clutch rod that fits, is adjustable, and have enough left over to make more if I had too for it. It's pretty solid but if it bends I'll just buy steel rod and thread it, and consider this a mockup.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3K%20Build/Ignacio-20111012-003531.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3K%20Build/Ignacio-20111012-003561.jpg

whether from wear or by design, the ball at the pedal is a bit larger. Drilled out the couplers, wangled the drill bit around to hog em out, finished with a dremel stone, and squirted some gun oil in there. Works nice, just need to set the final angle and set up the pedal.

[COLOFIREMAN]

It's great to see you working on her Ryan...:thumbsup:

[fulsizjeep]

It's great to see you working on her Ryan...:thumbsup:ditto! :)

[Gambler68]

Oh yeah, keep plinking away at it. Hung the side skirting on one side again to try and visualize what I'm going to to. It's going to need custom rear fenders, that's for sure..the OEMs look stupid with huge tires. And with the spring going SUF I will need to raise the rear some..got 3" with Tad perches and 2" tapered blocks sitting on my bench. I could fire it any time soon but would like it off jackstands first :D

[Gambler68]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/welder.jpg

hangers are burned in nice!!! Will post up front end re-install and praying my math was right..

[Gambler68]

So...I totally forgot that I needed a GM ubolt plate..yes they they different than anything Jeep offered. I used a FSJ spring bolt plate on the drivers side, but the pass side needed something custom...

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/Ignacio-20111029-00439.jpg

3/4" steel...I have a lot of this stuff. What I don't have is a bandsaw and a drill press, so forming this by hand (sawzall, 6.5amp 1/2" drill, and 4" makita grinder, and a collection of machinist drills meant for a milling machine). The holes are actually correct spacing, the pad is not square (doesn't matter either really).

2 more to go...this is the wide side for the pumpkin, on a GM HD44 the other ubolt goes over the tube.

[Gambler68]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/springplate.jpg

Quite a few hours shaping that slab of steel plate! The plate for the other side is a SUA pad turned sideways, I still have to add a bevel for the reversed direction the spring will now flex. I put a nice bevel on this one. On the GM HD44, it uses one very wide ubolt for the cast section, and one thin one that slips over the tube. IIRC, on a jeep D44, both pumpkin mount ubolts are wider.

Now I need a drop pitman arm, and I can finish up the steering. If anyone wants to buy my un-used hellcreek 2" plates, there's a post in For Sale.

[grand_wag_85]

With this progress will she be at Ouray this year?:D

[Gambler68]

Depends on what sort of winter we have. Still have to rewire the entire thing and plumb the brakes, raise the rear and tons of little crap. I'd say there's a 75% chance I can get it to the KOA. 100% if it trailer queens :D At least all the 'heavy' stuff is paid for and done.

Ideally, I'd like to run 36/37" millitary take offs, but for now these 38's should be ok. I think they're far too heavy and wide for non-ram assist steering..and THAT's not in the plan. Won't know till I drive it. I'd also like a spool for the rear, or perhaps Lincoln Lock it.

[Gambler68]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/Ignacio-20111031-00454.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/Ignacio-20111031-00456.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/Ignacio-20111031-00457.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/IMG-20111031-00455.jpg

[Tad]

Looks like things are moving along nicely :thumbsup:
(don't forget the wrench)

[Gambler68]

Looks like things are moving along nicely :thumbsup:
(don't forget the wrench)

I need a wench that can wrench! Thanks! I posted a thread in Offroad too. Your hangers are awesome man!

And hey, anyone reading, I had a pair of 2" wide 1" lift perches Tad sent me for the original build, I'd be happy to pass them on for the cost of shipping.

[COLOFIREMAN]

Wellllllll? Anything else?

[Gambler68]

I have a SOA thread in Off Road with the latest crap. Basically trying to scrounge up gas money to go fetch a 4" DPA I need to set up the steering. I'm going out now and seeing how these new springs will bolt up.

[men in black]

Whats with the string? Minnie Pearl :D

Looking good :fsj:

[Gambler68]

Well...got em on. I'm wondering if I messed up with the spring front to back..I put the little eye in the front, big eye to the back. It seems pushed forward.

I need to get it on level ground and try and flex it out some...but I think this is pretty darn close to how the monster is going to sit.

Not sure if the 3" lift I was going to try in the back is going to be enough..I'll slap the 2" blocks I have now in and maybe it wont look so redneck ghetto :)

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/IMG-20111109-00496.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/IMG-20111109-00497.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/IMG-20111109-00499.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/IMG-20111109-00500.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/IMG-20111109-00501.jpg

Maybe it's ok, hard tell, not like anything is OEM lined up anymore.

[fulsizjeep]

The long end goes to the front but since you are going to have to get drive shafts to fit, it may not matter. Reckon it depends on the steering link. I like that stance. :thumbsup:

[44BZ]

Time for some 44s:D

[SNO*MAN]

No sir, I don't like any of it. I will come and tow it away for you so you won't have to bother with it any longer.:rolleyes:

[COLOFIREMAN]

No sir, I don't like any of it. I will come and tow it away for you so you won't have to bother with it any longer.:rolleyes:


Ohhh I'm sure I would be the one to beat you to that race!!!:thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

It has a pretty darn nice approach angle like that. Think I'll leave it that way.

No mulah in the budget for any different tires right now. But thanks too Flint, I have a DPA to install tomorrow perhaps :)

[Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81]

Looks sweet Ryan! But what are you going to do about that pinion angle? :eek:

[Gambler68]

Looks sweet Ryan! But what are you going to do about that pinion angle? :eek:

I dunno..haven't checked it yet. I did mention the option of tom wood's high angle offset ujoints if it's too untenable as is.

[Tad]

I dunno..haven't checked it yet. I did mention the option of tom wood's high angle offset ujoints if it's too untenable as is.
Check your caster angle while you are at it.
If you can keep the caster angle in check you may be able to shim the pinion up.
I was able to go with 6* shims and still keep 3* of caster on my D60, good pinion angle and still drives fine on the interstate.

[grand_wag_85]

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z94/Ouray07/J3000%20SUF/IMG-20111109-00497.jpg




Maybe it's ok, hard tell, not like anything is OEM lined up anymore.

It's a BEAST:thumbsup:

[Tin Medic]

Maybe it's ok, hard tell, not like anything is OEM lined up anymore.

Are you kidding, when was OEM ever "lined up" on these rigs? :p

[Jason H. Rea]

Love the build up.
Did you ever get the rear fenders mounted?
Did you go with the original squared fenders from the thrift side bed, or the round ones of a M715 to match the front?

[Gambler68]

Just an update..I haven't touched this since fall..I no longer live at that house, or with my family, but my jeeps still do. I'll be doing my best to finish the truck, although I would sell it to a forum member if anyone is interested. But the good news is that for the near future, it's ok there. So..hopefully I can get it running this spring, eh?

[44BZ]

Just an update..I haven't touched this since fall..I no longer live at that house, or with my family, but my jeeps still do. I'll be doing my best to finish the truck, although I would sell it to a forum member if anyone is interested. But the good news is that for the near future, it's ok there. So..hopefully I can get it running this spring, eh?

Sincerely sorry to hear about the family situation. Best of luck getting the truck finished. You've put so much time and energy into it. Looks great and would be exciting to see you get it running again:thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Sincerely sorry to hear about the family situation. Best of luck getting the truck finished. You've put so much time and energy into it. Looks great and would be exciting to see you get it running again:thumbsup:

yeah I really do want to finish it..I'm pretty much DONE spending money on anything big, it's little stuff now. I should be able to get her running this summer if all continues to go well, and I have places to store it if need be. If I can finish it and pass it on, I will, before letting it sit and rot.

[COLOFIREMAN]

Haven't heard from you in a while brother...whats up?