OK, new ifsja decal designs - what do we all think?

[18cherokee]

UPDATE - NOVEMBER 09 - am negotiating with a U.S. based decal supplier who also sells online - ebay etc. i plan to send the art files to them & they will then list & on sell the decals to you. From what i have seen their prices are very reasonable & i am not doing any of this for profit, they seem very happy to help out. There was just no way i could distribute them all to you from Australia. I will come back with more.... Happy Thanksgiving to you all.

ok - another update as of may/09, & so a mate of mine has made the decals!!! - i have yet to see them, but so you all know, this project has not gone away..... i may even end up bringing them to the states when i visit CA next on business & send them to a member based in or near california that would in turn be happy to take them off my hands & simply mail them out to fellow members as requested & recoup costs where necessary. any volunteers? - let me know... anyway, stay tuned, more to follow at a later date.

AN UPDATE - CHRYSLER JEEP HAVE SENT ME VECTOR FILES & COLOR STANDARDS FOR EACH OF THE JEEP BRAND LOGOS - TRADEMARK OWNERSHIP BYLINE HAS ALSO BEEN RECEIVED & THE ART HAS BEEN SENT FOR FINAL APPROVAL - PLS SEE ATTACHED THE FINAL ART AS SUBMITTED TO CHRYSLER JEEP - THANKS EVERYONE & DONT FORGET TO VOTE & SHOW YOUR INTEREST & INTENTION TO BUY (COST PRICE DEPENDING!)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2457/ifsjadecalsfinalyh5.jpg

note the removal of the periods or full stops between the IFSJA letters - the trademark byline reads -

"Chrysler, Jeep and all logos appearing are registered trademarks of Chrysler LLC"

hi -

i have been busy today & come up with the attached initial designs for some updated ifsja vinyl bumper & window decals. you'll see these are model specific - j-truck, cherokee & wagoneer decals & they exude a wonderful retro feel.

i am posting to see what interest we have as a group for these & if we like 'em, i'm happy to work further on these with fellow members here in an effort to get these produced for our community.

pls have a look & answer the poll. i would like to have a few for my collection & a couple on the truck - these could be sold as a pair for each model - what do you think? - obviously price would be determined by demand.

cheers

[710 Burner]

Me likey.

[james1414d]

I like them all and would buy all six. A super wagoneer sticker would be cool tho.

[JeepBountyHunter]

I like it, probably would have all six. I like the J Truck, can you do a 79-81 Honcho? Just like the graphic's for those years..

[moondog]

I would by one for wifes waggy and one for both my cherokees.

[18cherokee]

i should add that the images of the jeeps have been pulled from the web. i have used these particular images to maintain a consistent design & feel.

i'm not even sure if other model images of this nature exist as they're specific to a period in time, & understand that the more models that are shown as a wider choice will mean smaller quantities of each design being produced resulting in a higher final price for each decal.

btw, i'm welcoming & waiting for any of our vinyl design / printing guru members to come by & either agree or correct me somewhere along here.

cheers

[J10/J20 Project]

Those are sweet.

Paul

[chuckchili]

I like all. Would definately purchase some.

[Guru]

Yup...I'm in!They look cool.

[DrveJeepDrnkBeer]

I like them, but none of them come close to looking like my Jeep. My wag is far from stock. Could you do a lifted/hacked up wag or chero?

[Brizio]

I like it, but I would prefer a late Grand Wagoneer.

[cmelo]

I like them, but none of them come close to looking like my Jeep. My wag is far from stock. Could you do a lifted/hacked up wag or chero?

X2

[j10jim]

I like um, specially the J-trucks. I am down for some.

[mudjammer]

I'd like a pair for my 88 waggy, a pair for my 77 J10, and a pair for the Cherokee I want to get.:thumbsup:

[men in black]

Those look very cool :thumbsup:

What no paneled with sidepipes :D

[shiner2001]

I like it, but I would prefer a late Grand Wagoneer.

I agree. I would venture to say there are more GW's than anything else out there.

As far as lifted ones and modified this and that, I think that is kinda the jumping off point for what the purpose of these stickers are. I like that it's a look back at what rolled off the showroom floor, not necessarily a sticker depicting lifts, chops, hacks and mods. Not knocking those vehicles, far from it actually, but I like the "stocker stickers." Just my two cents.

[jsinajeep]

What no W/T Cherokee:mad:

[Jeepstress]

Cool! But too much woodgrain! ;)

[orangecherokee]

I'd slap one on the rig :cool:

[LRRH]

the designs would have to be touched up to meet print requirements, but it would be easily doable for me to do. Also, I can produce them cost effectively.

18cherokee....what program did you do the design in? Can you send me the original file?

[red mistress]

I'd buy all stickers for any of the Jeep trucks.




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[COLOFIREMAN]

I'm in, how tall are you thinking of making them.

You know that desgin would cool to have on a shirt, hint hint;) :D

[LRRH]

3"x8" is a fairly standard bumper sticker size.

[COLOFIREMAN]

Sounds great, I'm in.:thumbsup:

[bigun]

I like them, but none of them come close to looking like my Jeep. My wag is far from stock. Could you do a lifted/hacked up wag or chero?
or hybrid J20/Cherokees

[suzq044]

Hmm - I like them, but I don't want a bumper-sticker. Maybe a small 4x2 window sticker or something. Hell - in black more like my avatar, that'd be great too.

[TexTJ209]

Looks good! I'll second the too much woodgrain comment. :)

I am dismayed by the lack of thriftside love though. :p

I'd buy a set for sure.

[Justin Kerns]

What no W/T Cherokee:mad:

X2! I like them though.....

[JPSwapMohn]

I like 'em! I wouldn't mind have a couple of sheets (if they are printed in a sheet as presented). Any copyright or other concerns with using the drawings from the old advertisements (I am pretty sure that is where they came from, right?).

To do others, someone would have to draw/paint/print images in the same style... Anyone out there got those skills and that kind of time?

I use that silver NT image to play with when imagining what I might do with this '78 NT in photoshop.

[Tigger4X]

As much as I no longer have my beloved project Chero I'd still sport these on the grocery getter! :thumbsup:


Although one day I'm sure the bug'll rise up again ... My "Jeep Thing" is only in remission. :D

[tazzerzz]

count me in for two j trucks

[18cherokee]

Any copyright or other concerns with using the drawings from the old advertisements (I am pretty sure that is where they came from, right?).

thats what i was concerned about as well - in addition to using the corporate logos - but im thinking, if theyre from the net, as we know many, many "random" sites carry such images, its kind of a null & void issue isnt it?

can anyone help out on that?

also, with regards to some other earlier queries, i did these on illustrator software & the size etc is yet to be determined. i have recvd a PM or two & will work through some of these art, size, format & cost questions as we move along.

thanks for the interest.

[TomballJ10]

I would definitely buy a set of the J-truck version...

[Thomas792]

Count me in for a few.

[JeepsAndGuns]

thats what i was concerned about as well - in addition to using the corporate logos - but im thinking, if theyre from the net, as we know many, many "random" sites carry such images, its kind of a null & void issue isnt it?

can anyone help out on that?

also, with regards to some other earlier queries, i did these on illustrator software & the size etc is yet to be determined. i have recvd a PM or two & will work through some of these art, size, format & cost questions as we move along.

thanks for the interest.


I think that if you use them for personal use, its usally ok. But as soon as you start selling them for profit, you change things a bit. You may want to look into copyright laws and whatnot. I would hate to see you get in trouble.

But I dig them. I think a Cherokee chief W/T would bee sweet. Also, what about adding www and .org to it. Because I dont think any regular person would be smart enough to figure out its a website. You would also have to remove the periods, as they would probably type those in with it.

[18cherokee]

J&G - comments noted thanks - i did have an "org" on the originals... & can be added. noted the periods / full stops between the ifsja letters.

with regards to copyright, im not doing any of this with an eye for profit - rather just to have something for our community. is there a difference between posting these images (as many do) on their various websites & us copying them & placing them on our rigs? i mean, we are jeep owners if you will....

further feedback appreciated, thanks

[Jeepgearhead]

I'd be interested in a couple of the wag decals as well.

[91G-Dub]

They all look good.
Looking forward to details as to when available and $.

[shaolinsifu]

great looking stuff..I'd have a set...

[bushwood44]

I'm in , need more wood grain:D

[Fiodh. Argus]

WT would be my favorite if possible but they look really classy

[RTFM]

So I'm the only one that finds them ugly?
Why put a picture of your truck on your truck?
Sane as it ever was - Same as it ever was - redundancy for what purpose?

I'd rather see a oval with IFSJA in int than a redundant picture

EG: http://www.crwflags.com/art/states/id_soval.jpg

My .02

[BrianAg95]

I don't like the vehicles on them either. I would rather just have the text portion.

Plus is it just me or do all of them look like they have sagging rear springs.. or is it just a strange visual trick that the roof lines are not parrallel to the black edges of the sticker?(on the side profile shots (the bumper stickers))

[yoslvr442]

i like them, they have an old style look to them!! i would throw some one my rig

[FSJ Guy]

Just because pictures are posted on the web, does NOT mean that it's a free-for-all. Yes, you could print them out for PERSONAL USE. However, the minute you start SELLING them or DISTRIBUTING THEM (for FREE or NOT!), you're in hot water.

The logos are obviously trademarks of a very large international corporation with a lot of lawyers. The pictures from the ads are also copyrighted, either by the company or the ad agency that created them. And no, copyrights don't expire any time soon.

For example, copyrights for individual photographers expire 75 years AFTER the photographer's death. And they can be extended by the heirs, too.

I do agree that it's odd to put a picture of your truck ON YOUR TRUCK. I like simple and easy. If I was going to do a sticker, it would simply say "IFSJA.org" in a big, bold Arial font.

[Towtruck]

...took me a week to scrape off the old ones...

[skeletor]

those pics are from the 74/75 jeep catalog.

[18cherokee]

The logos are obviously trademarks of a very large international corporation with a lot of lawyers. The pictures from the ads are also copyrighted, either by the company or the ad agency that created them. And no, copyrights don't expire any time soon.

thanks for the feedback - i'll call chrysler HQ before this goes further, cheers.

[Tigger4X]

So I'm the only one that finds them ugly?
Why put a picture of your truck on your truck?
Sane as it ever was - Same as it ever was - redundancy for what purpose?

I'd rather see a oval with IFSJA in it than a redundant picture

EG: http://www.crwflags.com/art/states/id_soval.jpg

My .02


As much as I previously stated that I would like the Cherokee bumper and window stickers to sport on the grocery getter I must now retract it and agree with this idea that having the IFSJA within an oval would be pretty kewl. I'm sure that with the proper permission from our website owners/administrators "www. and .org could be added to the oval. They wouldn't have to be anywhere near as prominent as the "bolded" IFSJA, and with them on the sticker it could possibly attract more traffic to the website and bring new blood to the ranks and grow our brotherhood. I'll even go one step further and make the suggestion that the oval stickers could be somewhat individualized along the same lines as the originally suggested stickers in that there could be variations of Cherokee, Wagoneer, J-Truck, Willy's, etc. in place of where the State and USA flags are, or even better yet, put them below and/or above the bold IFSJA letters. I'm sure we can fully avoid copyright issues by coming up with custom classic renderings in a basic outline and colored/enhanced by "photo-chop", or just use some pictures of member rigs and slightly alter them with previously mentioned "photo-chop" for the classic or IFSJA look.

Just my .02, but I think there are going up in value ... inflation and all, ya know?! :rolleyes:

[hummer010]

They aren't very realistic. Where are the pools of leaked fluids underneath the Jeeps?

[Ziptie]

http://www.planethoustonamx.com/press_photos/74_scca_jeep.jpg


http://www.poster.net/anonymous/anonymous-army-air-force-pin-up-girl-poster-1186288.jpg
Something old school, FSJ hood instead of wing......

[JeepsAndGuns]

Wasnt there a big stink on the net one time about some ford mustang owners makeing a calender of their own cars and selling it. And then ford comes along and says since they made the cars, they own the rights to any pictures of them, or some other crap like that? I think someone posted it up here. Cant remember. Got some people in trouble, and made a lot mad if I remember correctly.

[Tigger4X]

They aren't very realistic. Where are the pools of leaked fluids underneath the Jeeps?


IIRC those would most specifically be of J-trucks through a special order/group buy ... and when you get an authenticated copy signed by JANIE it will actually DOUBLE the value of your FSJ when you apply it!! ;) Can you just imagine how much it would be worth if she dipped a corner of your sticker in Tequila's vast contributions of Holy Dexron?!? :p

[jaw knee]

I'm with the IFSJA.org oval crowd :)

[jaber]

So I'm the only one that finds them ugly?
Why put a picture of your truck on your truck?
Sane as it ever was - Same as it ever was - redundancy for what purpose?

I'd rather see a oval with IFSJA in int than a redundant picture

EG: http://www.crwflags.com/art/states/id_soval.jpg

My .02

You know, Ford made a mistake and circled it, why would we want to???
The circle has been done to death, I say we do just letters in a vinyl window sticker. Very simple, very plain and to the point. I dont do bumper stickers, but would love to have (WWW.IFSJA.ORG) on my back windows.
I really like the ones BJ's offer.

Just my .02.......:thumbsup:

[james1414d]

So I'm the only one that finds them ugly?
Why put a picture of your truck on your truck?
Sane as it ever was - Same as it ever was - redundancy for what purpose?

I'd rather see a oval with IFSJA in int than a redundant picture

EG: http://www.crwflags.com/art/states/id_soval.jpg

My .02

I didn't realize we were giong to rip this guy apart for making clever stickers. redundant? you know stickers stick to any number of things other then your bumper. maybe be a little nicer to fellow members who post ideas like this. with that said, I like your sticker idea too. id buy 'em all.

how bout the oval with "SJ" or "FSJ" ?

[JeepNOFEAR]

I was thinking something like this. Maybe a little more simple, like just the grill. Maybe more crudely drawn also.

[amc75matador]

I think a 80's GW with square headlights should be one of the decals, I think they are the most common here. Also the IFSJA should include the website link with "www" and "org" I'd buy a couple for my back windows

[18cherokee]

Also the IFSJA should include the website link with "www" and "org" I'd buy a couple for my back windows

i'm going to add a ".org" & also a small print note along the bottom for the jeep logo/trademark/art ownership & run it by the corporates before proceeding.

[Dmntxn77]

What no W/T Cherokee:mad:


ditto...

[79 speedbump]

I like 'em all and will buy 'em. :D
Still looking for one that says "My other truck is a J-10".

[Am4wag]

Those are nice.....I'm in for a late GW..........

[suzq044]

I think i'm going to make a text-only image.. give me a few hours - stupid computer doesn't want to let me upload.:mad:

[gwinn]

IMO--I don't like them at all. The 3 manufacturer logos are not necessary... especially Chrysler. The Jeeps are photographs... I'd strongly prefer artist renditions. irbob's designs were pretty good... is he still making them?

[suzq044]

http://fc45.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/017/4/c/IFSJA_logo_design_by_suzq044_chopartist.png
If I'm missing anything (apart from "wide-track") let me know.

I decided to use the hood-shape as the defining marker for this sticker, because EVERY SINGLE FSJ has it.

Here's an example of how it would look:

[jaw knee]

http://fc45.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/017/4/c/IFSJA_logo_design_by_suzq044_chopartist.png
If I'm missing anything (apart from "wide-track") let me know.

I decided to use the hood-shape as the defining marker for this sticker, because EVERY SINGLE FSJ has it.

Here's an example of how it would look:

That looks really good! Nice and simple/clean with an element that's common to all of us fsj'ers. Nice work.

[shiner2001]

Heck yeah, now we're talking! That roof line is to FSJ's what the slotted grill is to baby Jeeps. Well done! I may or may not like the way the .org fits with it though...hmmm...

[bigdaddyGB]

Heck yeah, now we're talking! That roof line is to FSJ's what the slotted grill is to baby Jeeps. Well done! I may or may not like the way the .org fits with it though...hmmm...

unless i'm miss understnding you... that's not the roof line in that decal.. it's the hood line.... Unless i'm mistaken;)

[shiner2001]

That's what I meant.

[suzq044]

I was debating on shaping the "G" a little smaller so it kinda looked like an FSJ decending the A.. thoughts?

- edit: nvm, it looked dumb.

[shiner2001]

I was debating on shaping the "G" a little smaller so it kinda looked like an FSJ decending the A.. thoughts?
If it's there, I like all the letters the same size. My thought is that at an angle, it doesn't fit with the lines of the rest of the sticker, as everything else is horizontal and the diagonal .org is kind of hanging there by itself. Just doesn't look like it "belongs." Perhaps in a smaller type centered below the IFSJA?

(Actually now that I picture that, I don't really like that either as then it looks like it belongs with the model name below it. Hmmm...)

[shiner2001]

How about trying the .org as negative space inside the wide leg of the A?

[suzq044]

That sounds like a good one.. Just dont go making the sticker too complex, or we're going to have some people not be able to install them without a sign-shop. lol

Here's another Idea for the .org issue.
http://fc79.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/017/f/1/IFSJA_1_by_suzq044_chopartist.png

[shiner2001]

Maybe something like this. Just a little spinoff idea.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek.png

Still not 100% on that idea, just photo-thinking out loud, haha.

[Locked and Loaded]

You forgot browless J Trucks.;)

[suzq044]

Updated my post above.. with another "solution" to the .org.

[shiner2001]

Updated my post above.. with another "solution" to the .org.

I like that one too.

What if the .org was dropped completely? Plug "IFSJA" into a search engine and you get to the site anyway. Just another thought-out-loud.

[suzq044]

True, but you'd be surprised at how many people don't have a Computer, let alone access to google. But at that point, they probably wouldn't visit this site, and are therefore not part of our target 'audience'.. lol

[shiner2001]

True, but you'd be surprised at how many people don't have a Computer, let alone access to google.

If that's the case, then the .org would be lost on them anyway probably.

Haha, you edited as I was typing I think. Ditto to what you had to add.

[suzq044]

you beat me to my own edit. lol

[shiner2001]

you beat me to my own edit. lol

Jinx. You owe me a Coke.

[suzq044]

i'll drink it for you, cause it'll be hot by the time it gets there. lol

[shiner2001]

i'll drink it for you, cause it'll be hot by the time it gets there. lol

That'll work. I'm a Dr Pepper kinda guy, although here it's all called "a coke" anyway.

[suzq044]

Whichever works.. in either case, i hope everybody else likes my idea. Thanks for the input, and i'll.. see ya around (for lack of a better term).

[jaber]

Maybe something like this. Just a little spinoff idea.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek.png

Still not 100% on that idea, just photo-thinking out loud, haha.

It's not that I dont like his idea, I'm just more into the "simple" ones. This would be the one I'd stick to my windows. I'm not into flashy and as I'm "flying" past someone they would still be able to read it.
AGAIN, this is just one members .02.....

[suzq044]

It's not that I dont like his idea, I'm just more into the "simple" ones. This would be the one I'd stick to my windows. I'm not into flashy and as I'm "flying" past someone they would still be able to read it.
AGAIN, this is just one members .02.....
Take a look at my attachment to see how i envision these things looking, maybe this will help in visualizing this on your truck. Granted, it's the original version of the image I made.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=10301&d=1232250059

This is the one I like best so far though:
http://fc79.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/017/f/1/IFSJA_1_by_suzq044_chopartist.png

[bigdaddyGB]

How about this?? just my .02 cents

[COLOFIREMAN]

http://fc79.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/017/f/1/IFSJA_1_by_suzq044_chopartist.png

What no J4000, J100, J200?? :D JK it looks great

[Jeepgearhead]

I'd be interested in a couple of them with Grand Wagoneer on them, when you decide to start printing.

[Tigger4X]

i'm going to add a ".org" & also a small print note along the bottom for the jeep logo/trademark/art ownership & run it by the corporates before proceeding.

IMHO putting this in front of the corporates is going to end up being more of a PITA than anything. First off the designs that have come up after your original suggestion wouldn't need the stamp of approval from the Jeep corporation or anyone else for that matter providing we don't use anything already trademarked or copyrighted such as logos, pictures, etc. Secondly, putting anything in front of the "corporates" only puts whatever we do under a bright spotlight and can only invite them to send a legalized statement or whatever barring us from anything we could ever want without their express future approval (possibly having to send up some kind of royalties to them) and very likely having some basement dwelling corporate minion(s) lurking here on IFSJA just waiting to pounce. It would just be a LOT less hassle if we keep the designs true to OUR specific community. The only real outside influence I see that we might be using is the generic oval shape that has no copyright or trademark issues to worry about.

[shiner2001]

How about this?? just my .02 cents

I'm pretty sure that suzq meant just having one of the model names under the IFSJA at one time, like in the picture of the actual sticker on the glass. I wouldn't be too excited about having every model ever made listed, just the one for whatever vehicle it's on. May be wrong on her intentions, but that's what I interpreted them as.

Another nice thing about vinyls is that if you don't like part of it, then don't use it. It's not like a screen printed single, solid decal.

[Tigger4X]

http://fc45.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/017/4/c/IFSJA_logo_design_by_suzq044_chopartist.png
If I'm missing anything (apart from "wide-track") let me know.

I decided to use the hood-shape as the defining marker for this sticker, because EVERY SINGLE FSJ has it.

Here's an example of how it would look:

Someone made a comment earlier about making the design more of a custom rendition or a (rougher) sketch type. I mentioned just a bit ago about things possibly being put in a spotlight and under possible future scrutiny. As such I would strongly suggest that IF the FSJ specific "hood line" is used that it be more of a customized fashion. This might not be an issue at all though. Have the baby jeepers ever had a problem using the basic grille design? Hey, I just realized that I didn't say that the hood outline is a pretty kewl idea!! I dunno if it would work with the oval or not, but it is still a sweet design idea!!

[shiner2001]

Someone made a comment earlier, iirc it was gwinn, about making the design more of a custom rendition or a (rougher) sketch type. I mentioned just a bit ago about things possibly being put in a spotlight and under possible future scrutiny. As such I would strongly suggest that IF the FSJ specific "hood line" is used that it be more of a customized fashion. This might not be an issue at all though. Have the baby jeepers ever had a problem using the basic grille design? Hey, I just realized that I didn't say that the hood outline is a pretty kewl idea!! I dunno if it would work with the oval or not, but it is still a sweet design idea!!

I don't know that I have ever heard of baby Jeepers getting in trouble for using the slotted grill design on anything. Other car manufacturers (Hummer), yes, but club stickers, I don't think so. The hood design is also not trademarked. That's something suzq just made up. Not to sound argumentative, but I think the "legal" side of everything is probably being overthought. I certainly understand covering your Great Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogley, but Chrysler has a little bit more on their plate to worry about than this right now I think. Think about how often you see vinyl decals on the back window of a car (think Mustang) or a truck (think bowtie). Probably not that big of a deal.

[Tigger4X]

I was debating on shaping the "G" a little smaller so it kinda looked like an FSJ decending the A.. thoughts?

- edit: nvm, it looked dumb.


As mentioned by someone else I think the ".org" would look really good in the "negative" on the "A" in IFSJA. I had mentioned much earlier in this thread that putting the "www." and the ".org" in the oval design would make it much easier to figure out that IFSJA is a Jeep enthusiast's club and not just some funky inside joke kind of thing or some stuffy elitest faction. Dropping the "www." is no biggie though. Someone else said they didn't see the need for the ".org" and I definitely DISAGREE with that. The ".org" makes a big diferrentiation and could only help in directing more traffic and new blood into our ranks. I can't count the number of websites I have visited out of curiousity not to mention the ones that catch my eye because the sticker or whatever outright showed something I already have interest in.

[Tigger4X]

Maybe something like this. Just a little spinoff idea.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek.png

Still not 100% on that idea, just photo-thinking out loud, haha.

This is just what I am talking about! Do you have the ability to photo-chop some custom artist renditions of the actual Jeep models titled above? Nothing to design intensive, just something to give the flavor of what we might want to work on?? I still like the idea of the oval and all, but if we do go this route of the hood outline, which I also think is really kewl, then I think having some choices of Jeep model would be great, maybe even with the model name added below the custom art rendition. Also going off what was mentioned just a bit ago, if someone didn't want all of the sticker on their rig they could just omit that portion and only use the parts of the sticker they really like; making them slightly more personalized. If through all of my babble I'm not being clear think of the stick person family stickers you see everywhere. The way they are made you remove the backing on the sticker, affix the sticker to your rig, rub the portions you want to attach (or have already pre-cut out what you don't want), and then pull away the clear film that was over the top of it. This would mean that the custom artwork of the specific Jeep model would be a line drawing and not an actual picture that is colorized. It could also lead into the possibilities of the sticker being available in different colors like previous stuff designed on this board like the "Built NOT Bought" stickers and such. Oh the possibilities!! :thumbsup: :D

[shiner2001]

Do you have the ability to photo-chop some custom artist renditions of the actual Jeep models titled above?

Not 100% clear on what you mean...can you clarify that one a bit?

[shiner2001]

Also kinda like the idea of just this part. Looking at it from a minimalist point of view, there are probably other badges all over the truck saying what it is, no need to sticker it up too. Again, just another idea.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek2.png

And I can't reiterate enough how frikkin' cool I think the hood line design is suzq...awesome.

[Tigger4X]

Not 100% clear on what you mean...can you clarify that one a bit?

This would mean that the custom artwork of the specific Jeep model would be a line drawing and not an actual picture that is colorized.

The hood outline is a line drawing. Instead of the model being more detailed like a photograph it would be a basic outline like this icon :fsj: just not filled in with color, just like the stick figure type stickers people put on their cars denoting their family most typically of a dad, mom, and different sizes of kids(boys and girls), and sometimes even a dog or cat or whatever. I can try to take a pic of the "stick family" I have on the grocery getter if you like.

I also agree that a "minimalist" type sticker like the one below is another good option, however they could be simply made/modified by buyer using the process I previously mentioned just prior to sticking it on your rig; thereby reducing the number of different styles to have to printed out and on hand (that is unless it would end up being a cost saving possibility, of which I'd have to say we should definitely consider offering it).



http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek2.png


Personally I like all THREE variations of the "hood outline" sticker. The "minimalist" is great for those who just want the basic idea on their rig and don't particularly care for the extra "badging" of their specific model. The "standard" sticker would be for those who like the minimalist but would like the additional definition of their model of choice. The "super sized" sticker would be for those who would like one that includes a custom art rendition of a specific model. I personally like them ALL and can see a lot of reasons for each one!! For me, seeing as how my Chero was adopted by another person AND my "Jeep Thing" is only in "remission", I would prefer to have the "super size" option to stick on the grocery getter. What do you all think of this idea?! And for those that still like the "oval" idea this could work that way as well, I think.

Just another .02 tossed in by this Jeeper :cool:

[shiner2001]

Gotcha. You're talking about an actual representation of the Jeep itself, I know what you're saying now. Not sure I am the one to DO it, but I know what you are looking for!

[suzq044]

The reason i put all of the names (or most of them) on the same spot, is I figure that is how it would be printed; that way you don't have to make a bunch of different designs. Just send everyone the same thing and voila, everybody is happy. The only differences, I'm sure, would be size..

Here is a thought on the "oval" decal - if you're that intent on getting something that common, and less stand-out-ish.. check out Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/SJ-Euro-Sticker-fits-ON-Jeep-oR-ANY-FUN-4X4-LOOK_W0QQitemZ250358293800QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item250358293800&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
http://i11.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/2b/4c/4d6b_2.JPG

[gwinn]

Also kinda like the idea of just this part. Looking at it from a minimalist point of view, there are probably other badges all over the truck saying what it is, no need to sticker it up too. Again, just another idea.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek2.png

And I can't reiterate enough how frikkin' cool I think the hood line design is suzq...awesome.

This one's has my vote! The hood line is a feature in which all of our FSJ's have in common. Leaving the FSJ model off of the sticker will prevent the need for more than one sticker design to be manufactured. The font can be changed if necessary (not a fan of the stencil look), but the concept is smart.

[shiner2001]

This one's has my vote! The hood line is a feature in which all of our FSJ's have in common. Leaving the FSJ model off of the sticker will prevent the need for more than one sticker design to be manufactured. The font can be changed if necessary (not a fan of the stencil look), but the concept is smart.

I don't know what the cost difference would be, but if it's negligible (or at least not too steep) like suzq was talking about, the model names could be added. These could be cut off before application if you didn't want them, or left on if you did. That way you could go for the minimal look or the one with your (or all) model listed.


EDIT
As far as the font goes, I do kind of dig the stencil look for a couple reasons. One, it's a nice throwback to Jeep's heritage, even if our FSJ's aren't military vehicles. Also, from a design standpoint, it's one of the best fonts available for adding the .org in the negative just due to the "wide leg" of the A.

[Dmntxn77]

The reason i put all of the names (or most of them) on the same spot, is I figure that is how it would be printed; that way you don't have to make a bunch of different designs. Just send everyone the same thing and voila, everybody is happy. The only differences, I'm sure, would be size..



Just print it with EVERY model under the IFSJA, similar to what you have, just add the few that you are missing. Then everyone buys the same thing, and can trim out any FSJ's listed that dont apply to them. In the long run it wil be WAY eaiser and cheaper to have the buyer modifiy it themself as oppose to printing a dozen different stickers...

[Dmntxn77]

Oops... I guess I didnt read past page 5... :rolleyes2:

[shiner2001]

Just print it with EVERY model under the IFSJA, similar to what you have, just add the few that you are missing. Then everyone buys the same thing, and can trim out any FSJ's listed that dont apply to them. In the long run it wil be WAY eaiser and cheaper to have the buyer modifiy it themself as oppose to printing a dozen different stickers...


I guess we could also have one batch of printing done with the "main part" and another with the models listed. That way you still have the option to add the model if you want to, or you could just go for the main part. I suppose that would mean 2 stickers and 2 prices, which may be a bigger pain than necessary. Eh, nevermind.

[Dmntxn77]

I guess we could also have one batch of printing done with the "main part" and another with the models listed. That way you still have the option to add the model if you want to, or you could just go for the main part. I suppose that would mean 2 stickers and 2 prices, which may be a bigger pain than necessary. Eh, nevermind.


That sounds possible. It would all depend on pricing. A person would have to get a quote to know which route would be better...

[shiner2001]

That sounds possible. It would all depend on pricing. A person would have to get a quote to know which route would be better...

Just for comparison and not to try to hijack anything from anyone, I just emailed a buddy of mine that owns a sign shop to see what a quote for 500 and 1000 of just the top part of the design would cost to produce.

[shiner2001]

Here are a couple more ideas for the oval ones.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjaoval001.jpg

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjaoval002.jpg

[18cherokee]

just an update - regarding the original designs -

i am waiting to hear from jeep with regards to their blessing for this project & the use of the related jeep images & logos of the 3 jeep brand owners who produced our beloved rigs over their lifespan.

the jeep marketing guy intimated that they're usually happy to support jeep clubs & doesnt anticipate any problems re ownership & usage of brand & art if there is a small acknowledgment along the bottom of the decal, so thats a positive. i was always keen to ensure this was kept above board with everyone involved.

once that's confirmed i will be getting & working on some quotes (with a member here) for cost per pair, per model shown.

will provide further details as more comes to hand.

[Earl&Mary]

just an update - regarding the original designs -

i was always keen to ensure this was kept above board with everyone involved.


Thanks for doing this the right way. I'm in for the Truck and Wagoneer. I like the old pictures and the insignia of the three builders. There are very few FSJ's in our area and these will open the door for a Jeep history lesson. To the general public Jeep is military WWII era and what they see on the market today.

[fulsizjeep]

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjaoval001.jpg

Krista got one like that for me a year or two back. It does not have the URL. It is simple and my FSJ brethren get it even if the general public does not. ;)









But I would like to get back to the original purpose of this thread. We were asked our opinion on the designs in the first post. I like them. There is obviously a lot of opinions on other types of stickers people might like but that really is not what this thread was started for. Am I stating the obvious here? Sorry. Maybe I have not had enough coffee yet. :o As far as the designs, I would not use the yellow and white Jtruck with the white background and look for a darker example. The Pioneer Jtruck may not sell well either. Maybe too much wood for some. Isn't anything wrong with it though. If a variety of models are available on the stickers, then it should not matter that much. My take on it so far. :) Be interesting to see how Jeep responds to the inquiry.

Thanks 18cherokee!

[jaw knee]

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek2.png
I'd buy one or two.
This looks fine! No need for the type of jeep below it's all ready on our rigs. this looks cool and the font is strong.

[Dmntxn77]

just an update - regarding the original designs -



I am sorry! When reading over the thread, I didnt even realize that it got high-jacked somewhere along the way... :o

[Tigger4X]

In regards to the 3 possible design ideas IMHO the first design has the "classic" look, but it doesn't really fit the IFSJA community in the respect that we aren't like purist clubs that cling to the OEM standard or are stringent in restoring our FSJ's back to factory glory.

Which leaves us with what I would call the two main contenders here. I like the oval to a point, but seeing as how someone has clearly already created one so similar we could subjecting ourselves to being called plagarists, or worse.:rolleyes: Now some are going to immediately chime in that the proposed oval has the IFSJA.org in print along the bottom to which I say it is incredibly small at that and looks like an afterthought. Now maybe I have been wrong this whole time, but I thought that one of the big points behind the sticker was to make known the IFSJA.org, even more so after the discussion about how to incorporate the .org into the sticker. So my .02 is that the oval should have the IFSJA.org and not the already done SJ or FSJ.

Now onto the new portion of discussion about the hood outline design with IFSJA.org beneath it. This is pretty much what I was attempting to say when I mentioned the possibility of three different sticker types, but makes it more clearly understandable. Having the different model types on the sticker as a package makes it simple to have printed up and very easy for the member to customize the sticker to their liking, whether you want to include a specific model OR not. The idea that I had that was not recognized is that some, such as myself, would like to have an outline drawing of our rig to display as well. In going along with the customizable sticker idea clarified above maybe there could be a separate sticker available of the different models. IF nobody else has, or not enough have, any interest then I'll just have to work up some art and have my sticker guy make me a "one off" to slap on the grocery getter. Whether anybody wants to run with this portion or not another idea of mine not recognized was the possibility of the stickers being available in different colors. Maybe it should wait until we know how many actually want the stickers to begin with.

I know a guy who does all kinds of vinyl stickers and such who could be very good source of info, possibly the one to take on the printing, so I will try to get in touch with him as others are working on contacts as well and see what all we can come up with. No matter who we go with I think there is going to be one underlying issue that has not been addressed ... Who is going to front the $$$ to have them printed up, oversee the intake of payments, distribute/mail the stickers to the buyers, and then make sure the profits benefit the IFSJA. Our fearless leader DOME from what I have heard is usually buried beyond in important responsibilities so maybe this needs to be handled by one of the MODS ... ??? Do any of you have the time or inclination to handle such a project? The "profits" are something that was never discussed, but I think is something that should be addressed. When I say profits I am not talking about stickin' it to anybody, not in the least. I'm sure the stickers will come to some oddball price and they need to be mailed out which will mean covering the cost of envelopes and postage to mail 'em. IF when all said and done the cost of sticker, envelope, and postage hypothetically came to $4.75 then maybe make the charge a flat $5; and the minor $0.25 be made as a donation to the IFSJA.org website for whatever operating costs are necessary to feed our online addiction. Maybe that isn't an actual need or concern right now, I dunno. The "overage" could possibly be put to use in funding a politically recognizable petition that actually has some teeth to it or something to fight that BS land grab bill S. 22 that hasn't been fully passed just yet, or some other uber-important land use issue that we need to fight for. These are just suggestions though. (As far as who will handle this project that is another discussion entirely and I toss my name in the hat to be considered. As much as I am unfortunately not working, although the wife is thank God, but I am going to be going to school part time for a while. This will leave me with plenty of time and I readily have the abilities and organizational skills to handle it. I would expect to have a MOD to report to if not DOME himself. Enough said for now.)

[Tigger4X]

I am sorry! When reading over the thread, I didnt even realize that it got high-jacked somewhere along the way... :o

Me too :o I have been a large contributing factor to that effect so I'll just reiterate ~~~> In regards to the 3 possible design ideas IMHO the first design has the "classic" look, but it doesn't really fit the IFSJA community in the respect that we aren't like purist clubs that cling to the OEM standard or are stringent in restoring our FSJ's back to factory glory.

[men in black]

just an update - regarding the original designs

Can't we have more than one design of IFSJA stickers?

If you don't want to buy this one, start another thread for a
different design.

How about you've been spotted window cards.

[shiner2001]

my FSJ brethren get it even if the general public does not. ;)


Heck yeah, that's the best. It's like a step above the Jeep wave!

[shiner2001]

Not that I am saying to burn the place down or anything, because I love it, obviously, but I was not necessarily under the impression that we were looking for something specifically as website advertising, but more for a little recognition of the FSJ. Like I said, please do NOT take that as a shot at the site, just kinda clarifying what I had in my head. I guess I'm thinking that if it's big enough for someone to see on the highway, it's probably bigger than what I would like a website emblazoned on my truck. However, the very nature of a person that would be "at home" here is that they are going to be the one walking circles around your rig while it's parked at the local junk yard or parts store, hence the smaller "ifsja.org" like in the oval ones being sufficient "advertising." Just my two cents again. I think I am up to six cents now.

[suzq044]

I was actually thinking about starting a new thread - sorry about the 'jack' guys.. :omfg: :huh: no harm meant.

[shiner2001]

I was actually thinking about starting a new thread - sorry about the 'jack' guys.. :omfg: :huh: no harm meant.

I'll probably see you there suzq. If that's ok, of course. ;)

[suzq044]

This (http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=96470) is where the hood-line discussion will continue. Sorry again!

[shiner2001]

This (http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=96470) is where the hood-line discussion will continue. Sorry again!


We're on hold on the other one I suppose, but I'm bored. So here's some more of me entertaining myself in PhotoShop. A bit more directed at the web site than before as opposed to just to FSJ in general.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek003.jpg

[arclight]

I like them all is there a price for them yet?

[j10jim]

I like the hood one but in stencil with the .org in the leg of the letter A, also without the model types. Clean simple and to the point.

[shiner2001]

I like the hood one but in stencil with the .org in the leg of the letter A, also without the model types. Clean simple and to the point.

I sent that to my sign guy and he thought it may be a problem getting it cut since the details were kinda small in the leg of the letter A. Still going back and forth trying to figure out if it will work or not. Maybe someone else here can shed some light on it from a production point of view?

[LRRH]

I sent that to my sign guy and he thought it may be a problem getting it cut since the details were kinda small in the leg of the letter A. Still going back and forth trying to figure out if it will work or not. Maybe someone else here can shed some light on it from a production point of view?

If cutting it to the color, cutting would be slow and weeding (clearing out the unused vinyl) would be a major pain. Cutting in an oval would be no biggie.

[Tigger4X]

Not that I am saying to burn the place down or anything, because I love it, obviously, but I was not necessarily under the impression that we were looking for something specifically as website advertising, but more for a little recognition of the FSJ. Like I said, please do NOT take that as a shot at the site, just kinda clarifying what I had in my head. I guess I'm thinking that if it's big enough for someone to see on the highway, it's probably bigger than what I would like a website emblazoned on my truck. However, the very nature of a person that would be "at home" here is that they are going to be the one walking circles around your rig while it's parked at the local junk yard or parts store, hence the smaller "ifsja.org" like in the oval ones being sufficient "advertising." Just my two cents again. I think I am up to six cents now.

I'll see your 6 cents and raise ya 2 more! ;) Although I think I'm already in this whole thing for close to 2 bits. :o

I can fully see your point for wanting the FSJ oval design and separating it from the hood outline & IFSJA.org design. Honestly, why not have BOTH designs available?! I'd sport both of 'em hands down! Of course I'd much rather sport the oval on an actual FSJ than the grocery getter. :p

[Tigger4X]

We're on hold on the other one I suppose, but I'm bored. So here's some more of me entertaining myself in PhotoShop. A bit more directed at the web site than before as opposed to just to FSJ in general.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek003.jpg


Ooooooo .... me likey!! THIS is the one fo' me! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[shiner2001]

Ooooooo .... me likey!! THIS is the one fo' me! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Haha, thanks man, appreciate the comment. I did one for the round headlighters too, but I didn't like it at all.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek004.jpg

And I agree (again), I like the idea of one with the hood line design and another of the white oval ones. Our other thread got shut down for the time being, so I don't know if we are back to the original bumper sticker looking ones or what.

I don't know who has to approve, but I am ready to crank some of these things out!

[suzq044]

If you did the round thing, as i said before, you'd have the round vs. square face-off going again.. Not to mention, it's not exactly in the right spot. lol

[shiner2001]

If you did the round thing, as i said before, you'd have the round vs. square face-off going again.. Not to mention, it's not exactly in the right spot. lol

Yeah, that one didn't work at all. Like I said I was reeeaaalllyyyy bored.

[Tigger4X]

Haha, thanks man, appreciate the comment. I did one for the round headlighters too, but I didn't like it at all.


Props gotta be given when deserved, and that design is IT!



http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek004.jpg

And I agree (again), I like the idea of one with the hood line design and another of the white oval ones. Our other thread got shut down for the time being, so I don't know if we are back to the original bumper sticker looking ones or what.
Now this'in has me :lol: ... although I hafta commend ya on the effort and talent to pull it off! ... an' now, the "roundlighters" after me :eek: eeeeeeeeeek! :hide:


I don't know who has to approve, but I am ready to crank some of these things out!

Same here! I want mine ... an' I WANT IT NOW!! <inserttantrumhere> :whistle:

[shimniok]

Those are awesome! Thanks for doing this. Me want!! :) I'd love either the side view waggy or side view chero. Hope it's not too late to order.

For the folks that want ones that look exactly like their rig... really?

Michael

[shiner2001]

I'd love either the side view waggy or side view chero.

Michael

Which ones are you talking about exactly? Not sure I follow...

Like I said, I can run with it if I get approval from whoever is the Chief IFSJA Name On Stuff Approver.

[LRRH]

I'm going to make a post with all the different design ideas and we'll have a vote.

So...if anyone else has any ideas.....post them soon!

[18cherokee]

LRRH, can we wait until we get approval from jeep & also some price ideas for the jeep logo / truck design decals?

will the vote be for the one "official" ifsja decal? can we have a few?

fwiw, i see quite a few members have approved via the original poll - i wasnt attempting to create something official or to polarize the members here.....

[shiner2001]

will the vote be for the one "official" ifsja decal? can we have a few?



I agree. Nothing wrong with choices.

As far as Jeep approval, I think the only ones that would require that are the original ones on the thread. The one's that suzq and myself have been kicking around don't actually have any Jeep logos or TM's on them, just IFSJA. Same with the white oval ones I tossed in there. There seem to be 3 distinct designs, and I think all three are pretty cool, just up to the individual and the application.

[Tigger4X]

I agree. Nothing wrong with choices.

As far as Jeep approval, I think the only ones that would require that are the original ones on the thread. The one's that suzq and myself have been kicking around don't actually have any Jeep logos or TM's on them, just IFSJA. Same with the white oval ones I tossed in there. There seem to be 3 distinct designs, and I think all three are pretty cool, just up to the individual and the application.

SHINER2001 ... The original stickers for window and bumper need the official :thumbsup: from Jeep or whoever else has a copyright and/or trademark on the artwork that 18CHEROKEE is wanting to use. As far as the proposed oval sticker design and the hood outline design go, we DO have to have the :thumbsup: from the powers that be on here in order for anything to have IFSJA on it as it is copyrighted just the same as the JEEP logo, etc! So don't firing off any work orders, just yet. ;)

We need to make sure we get the word out as to when the vote is so we can all get in on it. It'll be really kewl to have a few FSJ/IFSJA style stickers to show off. I personally missed out on the "Built, Not Bought" T-shirts that were created on this board and hope that some time they will show up again, cuz I'm gonna get me one, or, umm, err, some, yeah, some ... :whistle:

[BrianAg95]

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/derekmayfield/ifsja/ifsjalogorevderek2.png



This is the one I would want to get. Simple to the point.

[MoparFan]

Okay... my.02¢
I like the original designs that this thread was started for... though I must say that a Chero W/T would put me over the top on them for sure... maybe even a monotone color scheme rather than color... not sure though... just a thought.
As for the additional designs that hijacked ;) the thread. I don't care for the oval... just seems overdone for a vehicle that deserves something unique (simple is fine... but no need for simply overdone). Though that is just my opinion and well, if that is the final design that gets made... I'm buying one anyways!
I do like the hood-line design, though I would like to have the option to have the model name(s) on it. I believe one sticker listing them all (which would allow us to cut off the ones we don't want or keep the ones we do) would be the simplest since it is only one sticker to order, which means only one type of order for whoever does this to deal with. No worries about accidentally shipping out the wrong one. Which means no one having to ship back their stickers or anything on that order.
Someone also mentioned having a artist rendition (line art) of specific Jeep models. That would be cool, but depending on how it looks would be the deciding factor for me on whether I personally would like it (but that goes for everyone with each design... it's all personal).Just remember, it's the meaning behind it that matters, because there is going to be no way for one sticker to please everyone on this site... we all have our own personal opinions.

Also, I want to give props to 18Cherokee for starting this thread, I personally appreciate the opportunity to sport an IFSJA sticker on my Jeep. And I want to give props to all the others who have provided additional designs... you all have come up with some great stuff!


Calvin


PS
No matter what design we go with, if we have model names/drawing/pics on it... I would really love a Chero W/T for an option... if not... eh... no big deal... I'll sport one anyways and support the community/family!


Oh...
And one more thing. This may not be important to everyone, but if possible, I think it would be a really great idea to make the window decals "reversed" so to speak (basically, so that they can be stuck to the inside of the glass but they still read correctly when viewing them from the outside). The reason being... for those of us in places that get snow/ice... when we scrape our windows the decals can get caught on the scraper blade and can mess them up... I personally want mine to last more than one winter. Again, might not be something anyone else care about or likes... just my opinion again (and I know... this post is full of "just my opinion" :D)

[Tigger4X]

Okay... my.02¢

I like the original designs thhttp://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/images/images_ifsja_2-5/editor/menupop.gifat this thread was started for... though I must say that a Chero W/T would put me over the top on them for sure... maybe even a monotone color scheme rather than color... not sure though... just a thought.

I like the mono chrome(sp?) idea too

As for the additional designs that hijacked ;) the thread. I don't care for the oval... just seems overdone for a vehicle that deserves something unique (simple is fine... but no need for simply overdone). Though that is just my opinion and well, if that is the final design that gets made... I'm buying one anyways!
I agree with the over done idea of the oval, but it's my opinion as well and will buy it even if it's the only one done.

I do like the hood-line design, though I would like to have the option to have the model name(s) on it. I believe one sticker listing them all (which would allow us to cut off the ones we don't want or keep the ones we do) would be the simplest since it is only one sticker to order, which means only one type of order for whoever does this to deal with. No worries about accidentally shipping out the wrong one. Which means no one having to ship back their stickers or anything on that order.
I'm all for the idea of all of the model names being on the sticker too as long as it is the modifiable type we have been talking about.

Someone also mentioned having a artist rendition (line art) of specific Jeep models. That would be cool, but depending on how it looks would be the deciding factor for me on whether I personally would like it (but that goes for everyone with each design... it's all personal).
Just remember, it's the meaning behind it that matters, because there is going to be no way for one sticker to please everyone on this site... we all have our own personal opinions.
I do believe that I was the one that mentioned the artist rendition in line art form of specific Jeep models to choose from to begin with, but no matter. I don't think it would be too hard to come up with some simple line art that would accurately depict the specific models and most everybody would be happy.

Also, I want to give props to 18Cherokee for starting this thread, I personally appreciate the opportunity to sport an IFSJA sticker on my Jeep. And I want to give props to all the others who have provided additional designs... you all have come up with some great stuff!


Calvin
Ya gotta give props where props are due. Thanks again 18CHEROKEE! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: You too SUZQ044 and SHINER2001 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


PS
No matter what design we go with, if we have model names/drawing/pics on it... I would really love a Chero W/T for an option... if not... eh... no big deal... I'll sport one anyways and support the community/family!


Oh...
And one more thing. This may not be important to everyone, but if possible, I think it would be a really great idea to make the window decals "reversed" so to speak (basically, so that they can be stuck to the inside of the glass but they still read correctly when viewing them from the outside). The reason being... for those of us in places that get snow/ice... when we scrape our windows the decals can get caught on the scraper blade and can mess them up... I personally want mine to last more than one winter. Again, might not be something anyone else care about or likes... just my opinion again (and I know... this post is full of "just my opinion" :D)

I'm also gonna sport one of whatever is chosen (IF it actually comes down to having to choose just one), but I would much rather see the hood outline design win the whole she-bang! ;)

After hearing your idea about reversing the glass window version vs the typical style I have to say that is a really good idea!! :thumbsup: The one and only draw back to that is that some folks have their windows tinted and it wouldn't be seen then. So maybe we could do both versions of the standard and reversed. I know it means that we now have two different types of sticker, but I wouldn't mind one bit if I ended up having to tackle the project to make it happen.

I'll add a P.S. of my own now ... I made mention of it a couple of times so far but haven't gotten any feedback on if we'd want different colors of the hood outline style or not. I don't think everybody is going to want the standard white, but I might be wrong. ;)

[18cherokee]

AN UPDATE - CHRYSLER JEEP HAVE INITIALLY APPROVED THE (FIRST, POLL RELATED) DECAL DESIGNS & ALSO OUR INTENT TO USE THE/THEIR JEEP RELATED IMAGES & LOGOS. I WILL BE ADDING A TAG ALONG THE BOTTOM OF THE DECAL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE JEEP TRADEMARK ETC. - ONCE I GET THAT FROM JEEP, I WILL POST THE FINAL DESIGN & WE CAN THEN PROCEED TO SOURCE PRODUCTION - SO, DONT FORGET TO VOTE ON THE POLL SO WE HAVE AN ACCURATE IDEA OF INITIAL INTENT TO BUY - THOSE RELATED POLLING NUMBERS WILL HELP CALCULATE THE PRODUCTION COSTS INVOLVED - THANKS EVERYONE

[710 Burner]

What??? They didn't send a team of para-legals to threaten you, like (I'm told) Ford and GM do?

[Tigger4X]

What??? They didn't send a team of para-legals to threaten you, like (I'm told) Ford and GM do?


Im glad I was sitting down when I read this! I posted much earlier in this thread about being VERY leary of the "suits" knocking us around and the possibility of a lurker keepin' tabs on us.

I sits Krek'ted! :whistle: ... and I say thanks to JEEP for having our back!!

[Tigger4X]

...

note the changes made to the original designs include -

- removal of the periods (dots or fullstops) between each of the IFSJA letters
- addition of a dot.org
- trademark byline at bottom - to be decided shortly





:worthless: ... updated pics that is ;)

[18cherokee]

AN UPDATE - CHRYSLER JEEP HAVE SENT ME VECTOR FILES & COLOR STANDARDS FOR EACH OF THE JEEP BRAND LOGOS - TRADEMARK OWNERSHIP BYLINE HAS ALSO BEEN RECEIVED & THE ART HAS BEEN SENT FOR FINAL APPROVAL - PLS SEE ATTACHED THE FINAL ART AS SUBMITTED TO CHRYSLER JEEP - THANKS EVERYONE & DONT FORGET TO VOTE & SHOW YOUR INTEREST & INTENTION TO BUY (COST PRICE DEPENDING!)

[Tigger4X]

AN UPDATE - CHRYSLER JEEP HAVE SENT ME VECTOR FILES & COLOR STANDARDS FOR EACH OF THE JEEP BRAND LOGOS - TRADEMARK OWNERSHIP BYLINE HAS ALSO BEEN RECEIVED & THE ART HAS BEEN SENT FOR FINAL APPROVAL - PLS SEE ATTACHED THE FINAL ART AS SUBMITTED TO CHRYSLER JEEP - THANKS EVERYONE & DONT FORGET TO VOTE & SHOW YOUR INTEREST & INTENTION TO BUY (COST PRICE DEPENDING!)


Ummmm ... I quote myself ...


:worthless: ... updated pics that is ;)


Or are you holding out for an opportune time for a grand unveiling?

[18cherokee]

please see attached the final art as submitted to chrysler jeep.....

pls see the opening post.....

[Justin Kerns]

I like them a lot - they just seem to be getting better. But I too have to vote for a WT Cherokee as that is the only FSJ I currently own.

[SnowShoe]

SuzyQ...you are a brave soul...you see how difficult it is to get anything done by commity.

There have been some great ideas offered...I think your original idea, for window and bumper stickers with art work depicting each fsj type in color, is great...and it inspired other ideas.

When I think of a logo...I think of something simple and something that translates across the board...

Most everyone here owns 1 or more fsj and for that reason I like the simple "Logo" design represented in post #128...like wise I like the simplicity of FSJ "type" as Flint displayed in his post #111.

These logos can be placed on glass or even the body. Suggested mounting locations would further unify IFSJA members at a glance and would, over time, become a uniform symbol to other wishful public enthusiest.

So this is my $02. worth...just thinkin..just thinkin...;)

[shiner2001]

I'm probably out on buying the original ones after seeing the hood design that suzq came up and the derivations that it lead to (and not just because some of them were mine, I just like them better), as well as the oval ones. I know those are pretty prevalent out there, but I think they still look cool. I'll probably end up just going to have half a dozen of something cut for myself if we don't want to do those. Another thread was started for those since it seemed that some people weren't too fond of the "hijacking" (I just looked at it as brainstorming) so my apologies for that. The other thread was closed, so I guess the discussion was as well.

I can't un-vote, so subtract 2 from whatever the order total is for the original stickers. Just not as big of a fan of those as some of the other ideas. Ha, it doesn't matter what sticker I put on mine anyway right now, until I get the d@mn thing running I'm the only one that's gonna see it!!

Carry on! :thumbsup:

[TooRisky]

count me out....dont like the 70's feel to them....though I have a 77" cherokee I an doing my best to bring the whole old school thing to the present...just me...

[suzq044]

SuzyQ...you are a brave soul...you see how difficult it is to get anything done by commity....So this is my $02. worth...just thinkin..just thinkin...;)

Brave? Hardly; just a freelance artist doing what I like to do - I did the same thing for my boyfriends Chevy Forum; we have a '66 C10 Panel-truck, so i'm on that forum as well..

My original idea was to do it like these, because someone mentioned the "artwork-style" idea.. but alas, my photoshop was being a royal pain, so I ended up with the hood decal instead.. anywho; the alternative "styles", but obviously not the right vehicle; were the ones below. I think it would be okay to do the first one, because the bodylines are generally the same between the vehicles; however the nose design would result in me doing about eleventy-billion different grilles for those who want it custom to what they own, so the first one would be the prime-candidate between the two; I would do the other one if I were being paid to, because grilles are the HARDEST part of doing this work.. lotta detail.

[Click the image to see full-resolution]
http://th03.deviantart.com/fs36/300W/i/2008/247/0/c/Chevy_Only___Panel_by_suzq044_chopartist.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/download/96825236/Chevy_Only___Panel_by_suzq044_chopartist.jpg)

http://th02.deviantart.com/fs32/300W/i/2008/231/e/5/Chevy_Only_logo_by_suzq044_chopartist.jpg (http://fc70.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/231/0/c/Chevy_Only_logo_by_suzq044_chopartist.jpg)

.. not to clutter.. sorry! :banghead:

[shiner2001]

OK Suz, I'm going to need something with third row seating to take a back seat to that. Those are awesome...well done!

I gotta see yall's stable o' vehicles next time I'm out to PB too.

[jaber]

http://fc79.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/017/f/1/IFSJA_1_by_suzq044_chopartist.png


So would it be ok with y'all if I take this to my local screener and had him run a few off for me, or is someone going to put these into print?

[18cherokee]

updated - decals made - see first post.

[kahula]

i'm in to get a set

[men in black]

KEWL I'm in for a set


"Chrysler, Jeep and all logos appearing are registered
trademarks of Chrysler LLC" and Fiat :D

[Wagoncrzy]

I don't mind window decals, really not interested in bumper stickers. Kinda tacky for a restoration just my 2 cents.

[4x4Dad]

Gimme! How much?

[shiner2001]

I don't mind window decals, really not interested in bumper stickers.


After seeing the other ones that came up along the way, I have to agree. Oh well. Seems like a window decal like Suzq's might have been the more popular choice.

[78J-10]

Me want!!!

[wickedwagon767]

They look cool,but since we all have different looking FSJ's ,many of them far from stock, the pictures of the original models is kind of redundant.

I,for one, want just a simple bold white lettering " IFSJA.ORG " would make me more than happy:D

[suzq044]

They look cool,but since we all have different looking FSJ's ,many of them far from stock, the pictures of the original models is kind of redundant.

I,for one, want just a simple bold white lettering " IFSJA.ORG " would make me more than happy:D

See this Post for mine: Post 155 (http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showpost.php?p=878123&postcount=155)

[BigWorm]

You guys have got to be Great Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogleying me. Someone took a lot of time and effort to make a set of AWESOME stickers. You cant make a sticker with every diff jeep in the world on it.

How about offering the original stickers and where the pic of the jeep is just leave it open and blank, that way you can go to a local sign shop with a pic OF YOUR JEEP and have them copy it and ink jet it into the open area. Problem solved.

But why do you want a picture of your jeep ON your jeep?? Oh, just in case you forget what it looks like huh? OR leave it blank and draw in a picture yourself with a magic marker since so many of you think you have better art talents than the original designer. ;)

I like em, Id order the Chero set JUST LIKE THEY ARE.

Jeeps are just like A holes, everybody has one and some of em stink.

Have a GREAT DAY:D

[billyrb]

You guys have got to be Great Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogleying me. Someone took a lot of time and effort to make a set of AWESOME stickers. You cant make a sticker with every diff jeep in the world on it.

How about offering the original stickers and where the pic of the jeep is just leave it open and blank, that way you can go to a local sign shop with a pic OF YOUR JEEP and have them copy it and ink jet it into the open area. Problem solved.

But why do you want a picture of your jeep ON your jeep?? Oh, just in case you forget what it looks like huh? OR leave it blank and draw in a picture yourself with a magic marker since so many of you think you have better art talents than the original designer. ;)

I like em, Id order the Chero set JUST LIKE THEY ARE.

Jeeps are just like A holes, everybody has one and some of em stink.

Have a GREAT DAY:D

I always think it's a great idea to join a forum, talk about how great your projects / fab stuff is, then start knocking everyone else and what they want. Just in case you haven't noticed, this place isn't like Pirate, and comments like those ensure some folks are short-lived around here.

[jaber]

You guys have got to be Great Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogleying me. Someone took a lot of time and effort to make a set of AWESOME stickers. You cant make a sticker with every diff jeep in the world on it.

How about offering the original stickers and where the pic of the jeep is just leave it open and blank, that way you can go to a local sign shop with a pic OF YOUR JEEP and have them copy it and ink jet it into the open area. Problem solved.

But why do you want a picture of your jeep ON your jeep?? Oh, just in case you forget what it looks like huh? OR leave it blank and draw in a picture yourself with a magic marker since so many of you think you have better art talents than the original designer. ;)

I like em, Id order the Chero set JUST LIKE THEY ARE.

Jeeps are just like A holes, everybody has one and some of em stink.

Have a GREAT DAY:D
I agree with billyrb!!!

We like constructive criticism, but attitude is not welcome here. You will find more information and a world of help here, but we WONT put up with bashing. Play nice or take it else where.....

[gotgas]

If the sticker with the hoodline turns out to be an option,I would like one big enough to put on my rear window.

[Clean RC]

I am in for a complete set... They will look great with my other Jeep stuff.. I am in Calif as well.. Just let me know when they are available and a cost.. Thanks for the great effort..

[j10jim]

Lets go back to Suzyq design. I like the hood layout with www.IFSJA.org (http://www.IFSJA.org) beneath it.

[250psd]

They look great! I'm just not a fan of the solid background for the window decals.

[benztechnc]

Timeline on when you might be able to sell them...

[suzq044]

I tried to make another thread; but they locked it almost immediately <_<, so apparently the original-post has the "official" stickers for this site; however, you're welcome to take my design to your local sign shop and have it printed... er vinyl'd

[j10jim]

Suz, can you PM me with the artwork? I would like to take it to my printer. You can also email it to me directly: jeep10jim@yahoo.com

Thanks

[TooRisky]

There is one option you forgot....it is I would not be cought dead putting those ugly tired looking decals on my baby...sorry but my opinion

[Stumblinman]

I think they're cool and might look good on a tool box but I'm not one to stick a picture of my rig on my rig.

[HD_JEEP]

I like it, but I would prefer a late Grand Wagoneer.

I do like them but I agree with Brizio :thumbsup:

[suzq044]

Suz, can you PM me with the artwork? I would like to take it to my printer. You can also email it to me directly: jeep10jim@yahoo.com

Thanks

Check your email -- I sent you information regarding that; it should be there by tomorrow.

[jaber]

I'm going to make a post with all the different design ideas and we'll have a vote.

So...if anyone else has any ideas.....post them soon!

So are we going to vote as a group? If not then I'll get a bumper sticker (original post) for my tool box and take Suzq044's design to a vinyl dealer. Any objections before I do???:confused:

[shiner2001]

Like Suz said, there was another thread that lasted for about 8 minutes before it got shut down. Never did really understand why, but I guess we can either order whats here or take Suz's or some iteration thereof and head to the printer ourselves. That's what I did.

[suzq044]

I have created (for those of you who wish to go to their local sign/vinyl shop) a pair of files for my "hood-line" artwork. Just send me a PM message if you would like me to send you those files, that you could then bring to your sign/vinyl shop.

The design is similar to the one in my avatar; the larger image is also on page 155, though this is only a gif image.

edit: j10jim, Your files have been sent.

[jaber]

I have created (for those of you who wish to go to their local sign/vinyl shop) a pair of files for my "hood-line" artwork. Just send me a PM message if you would like me to send you those files, that you could then bring to your sign/vinyl shop.

The design is similar to the one in my avatar; the larger image is also on page 155, though this is only a gif image.

edit: j10jim, Your files have been sent.

I'll take one...

Thank you...:thumbsup:

[suzq044]

You need to PM me with your email address; using the system here, I can't attach a relatively large pair of files.

[suzq044]

All those who have PM'd me (as of 6:08pm, PST 5/23/09), I have sent the files to the email address provided.

[benztechnc]

All those who have PM'd me (as of 6:08pm, PST 5/23/09), I have sent the files to the email address provided.

love to PM but I think the mailbox is full! :thumbsup:

[suzq044]

fixed that..

I would love to know who bumped the thread, cause it wasn't me. lol
I haven't been on this thread for months.

[benztechnc]

fixed that..

I would love to know who bumped the thread, cause it wasn't me. lol
I haven't been on this thread for months.

no idea, I just always check out the new posts and i remember the thread from a few months back

[jaber]

I would love to know who bumped the thread, cause it wasn't me. lol
I haven't been on this thread for months.

I was wondering the same thing. I started going through the pages to see who might have edited something, then realized that when I edit one of my posts, it does not go to the top of the board????

[krek]

Somebody voted in the poll and it bumped the thread... eerie when a thread gets woken from the dead.

[HD_JEEP]

I like it, but I would prefer a late Grand Wagoneer.

DITTO... X2

[61Hawk]

So I'm the only one that finds them ugly?
Why put a picture of your truck on your truck?
Sane as it ever was - Same as it ever was - redundancy for what purpose?

I'd rather see a oval with IFSJA in int than a redundant picture

EG: http://www.crwflags.com/art/states/id_soval.jpg

My .02

I second that idea. It's exactly what I was thinking of when I first saw this thread.

[Tigger4X]

I have created (for those of you who wish to go to their local sign/vinyl shop) a pair of files for my "hood-line" artwork. Just send me a PM message if you would like me to send you those files, that you could then bring to your sign/vinyl shop.

The design is similar to the one in my avatar; the larger image is also on page 155, though this is only a gif image.

edit: j10jim, Your files have been sent.

:confused: PAGE 155 :confused:

Sending you a PM though :thumbsup:

[suzq044]

You know, I have no idea where 155 came from on that post. lol.. like there's not even 15 or 55 pages.. so it was a massive typo or something. lol

[jaber]

You know, I have no idea where 155 came from on that post. lol.. like there's not even 15 or 55 pages.. so it was a massive typo or something. lol

You probably meant POST #155. :D

[suzq044]

yeah, you're probably right. lol

[mike12]

i will take a j 10 :thumbsup:

[18cherokee]

UPDATE - NOVEMBER 09 - am negotiating with a U.S. based decal supplier who also sells online - ebay etc. i plan to send the art files to them & they will then list & on sell the decals to you. From what i have seen their prices are very reasonable & i am not doing any of this for profit, they seem very happy to help out. There was just no way i could distribute them all to you from Australia. I will come back with more.... Happy Thanksgiving to you all.

[Brizio]

UPDATE - NOVEMBER 09 - am negotiating with a U.S. based decal supplier who also sells online - ebay etc. i plan to send the art files to them & they will then list & on sell the decals to you. From what i have seen their prices are very reasonable & i am not doing any of this for profit, they seem very happy to help out. There was just no way i could distribute them all to you from Australia. I will come back with more.... Happy Thanksgiving to you all.

For the stickers in the first page? Or also for the www.IFSJA.org one?

[CHICOWAGGY]

Oh! He11 yea!!:thumbsup:

[Tigger4X]

... eerie when a thread gets woken from the dead.


sho nuff!

Which now reminds me that for some time I haven't been able to figure out what the final design turned out to be.



:worthless:

[suzq044]

Hey, did anybody ever get a shot of what mine looked like on their car? I always like seeing my work in context. :D

[Tigger4X]

So there is more than one version out there?! Somebody kill this curiosity!

[18cherokee]

i'm expecting to be able confirm production of these designs within a few days :)

[suzq044]

So there is more than one version out there?! Somebody kill this curiosity!

A few people made different ones; but the ones on the first post are the only ones approved by the moderators here and/or Jeep.

[Tigger4X]

:worthless:


Somebody?? Anybody??

Lets see how they look!!

[18cherokee]

i expect to post photos of the finished items within a few days - along with information on where / how to purchase.

[Brizio]

i expect to post photos of the finished items within a few days - along with information on where / how to purchase.

Ok Cool!

[Tigger4X]

i expect to post photos of the finished items within a few days - along with information on where / how to purchase.


A "few" days ... or fourteen :confused: :p

C'mon peoples! I'm dyin' to see some decals so I can pony up and slather the daddy wagon with 'em!! :thumbsup:

[18cherokee]

hi all -

decals are finally available!!!!!!

thread has been moved to here -

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=117831&highlight=decals

sorry they took so long!

[18cherokee]

bumping so you can enjoy the fruits in case you missed it.

shameful i know.