International T-19 to AMC V8?

[Chero77]

Ok, how would one go about adapting a Cornbinder T19 to an AMC V8? I recently saw an IH T-19 and it has studs extending from the case. It didn't have a bellhousing, so I am guessing the studs pass through holes in the IH bellhousing and nuts are used on the studs inside the bell. So could one adapt an IH T19 to an AMC V8 by drilling the IH stud pattern in a Jeep bellhousing? Then, simply find the right input shaft and your set?

The close ratio, fully synchronized IH T19 would be a good tranny for a mostly street and dirt trail driven FSJ.

[BillR]

I'm not sure about the IH tranny, but the Ford T-18 will mount to an AMC V-8 with a T-176 bellhousing.

[tgreese]

Check out the Novak database.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/t18_t19.htm

From here and reading other posts here, the IH transmissions are really different from Ford, Jeep, and so forth.

[RBJ]

Cheap but not always easy way to do this is to find an IH (scout) that had a manual tranny and a 258 six, it is the same bolt patern as the AMC 8's as I am sure you know :D

[scotty]

the scout tranny uses an input shaft longer than the 6 cyl FSJ trannys,yet shorter than the V8 versions. this fact,along with the studs make it not very easily adaptable to most amc bellhosuings.

if you use the scout 258 bell,it will indeed bolt to the amc v8,but youll have other issues to deal with: 1)you may need to have a flywheel balanced to the amc v8 of your choice,as the flywheels are likely different size between the scout and jeep trannies 2) youll need to use the IH starter,wich may or my not cause prollems, 3) the IH trannies use a really goofy clutch linkage,so clutch linkage will need to be fabbed. 4) shifter will prolly be in a different position,and 5)youll need driveshaft and crossmember mods

not saying its imposible,but its not quite a "simple bolt in" ;)

[ February 07, 2004, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: scotty ]

[Chero77]

I agree its not a simple bolt in, but I am not sure its that hard. There are only four studs on the T19. Seems like an AMC V8 bellhousing could be readily be drilled to take the IH tranny. The problem would be the input shaft. Probably have to get a Ford input shaft and have it machined to fit IH bearing retainer with right stickout lenght for the the AMC bell. Then you could use the standard Jeep clutch lingage without mods. However, the rear driveshaft would be to short, so would need to have a new one made. Maybe same for the front.

Another approach as you mentioned is using the IH to AMC bell, with the aforementioned clutch linkage, drive shaft, and possibly starter mods.

Guess its just a matter of costing it out. IH t19s can be had for $100 whereas Jeep t18s routinely sell for more then $500. Hard to say which would be cheaper.

[scotty]

just make sure youre getting s wide ratio t19. alot of them are close ratio. i guess it depends on your intended useage,but id personally rather have an unsynchro 6.xx 1st than a synchro 4.xx 1st. i would not go thru the hassel for a close ratio tranny

435s and sm465 can be had for next to nothing as well,wich are easily adaptable and also get rid of the strength issues of a d20 ;)

i think the easier method to use the t19 will defiantly be to use the IH to amc bell. in a worse case,you maybe have to have the 258 IH flywheel balaanced for a 360,and then the starter should work,as well as all the IH clutch parts,with maybe a custom pilot bushing.

the clutch linkage may be alittle tricky,but certainly doable smile.gif

[ February 08, 2004, 08:19 AM: Message edited by: scotty ]