The build-up continues PART TWO... Update May 27th... [Archive] - International Full Size Jeep Association

Dmntxn77

12-10-2007, 10:42 AM

Well, its official.. The 79 Chief has gone from this....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/79%20Chief/Teardown/LoadedUp3.jpg

to this...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/79%20Chief/Teardown/PileOfParts2.jpg

to this...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/79%20Chief/Teardown/LoadinguptheCarcass7.jpg

Yesterday (and into the night), I started to swap all the 1 ton stuff over to my RUST FREE 75 Chief with the fresh crate motor... I still need to swap in a new Q/T, but otherwise, it should be good to go..

Saturday, while looking at the FSJ/Snow thread, I told my wife "I wish we had some snow here to play in".... Well, I got it Sunday. Doing a 1 ton swap in the fresh now, wasnt exactly what I wanted though.. "rolleyes:

I ran into a few problems, but nothing too major. For example, the PO had some sort of aux tank protector/receiver support, that was in the way of the D70 diff cover. It took me a while to get it hacked off enough to work. Then, it turns out, that a D70 will not fit with a stock rear suspension. I had to remove saddle tank skid plate to get it to work. Still, the tank is contacting the top of the D70 center section.. Its not too big of a concern anyway since I plan to pull saddle tank and run ONLY the aux tank..

The back is way lower at the moment since the front is SOA, and the rear is stock.. For now, I will probably just get some longer U bolts to run the 4" block until I get time to fix it correctly..

So, stay tuned while I do a shackle flip on the rear..

Good thing for the tractor.. It didnt want to roll too good on these tires.. Here are a couple of pics of the front getting ready to go in..
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/P1010535.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/P1010537.jpg

Front in...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/P1010539.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/P1010538.jpg

I guess I didnt get any inprocess pics of the rear going in.... BUT, here is a dark pic of the final (for now) results..
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/P1010543_edited.jpg

BRUTUS

12-10-2007, 10:50 AM

Nicely done. I like the razor better too.

Dmntxn77

12-10-2007, 10:59 AM

Me too... When I get back to TX, I will be able to sell the razor that I planned to swap into my 79.. :D

Gambler68

12-10-2007, 11:01 AM

that's pretty dang sick! :thumbsup:

Glad to see another blue/black Cherko added to the list :D (until you repaint it)

Dmntxn77

12-10-2007, 11:03 AM

I dont need to repaint it.. My plans were to repaint the white one blue/black..

If I do repaint it later, it will still be blue, just a darker shade.. But this paint looks good, so why bother..

Gambler68

12-10-2007, 11:08 AM

I dont need to repaint it.. My plans were to repaint the white one blue/black..

If I do repaint it later, it will still be blue, just a darker shade.. But this paint looks good, so why bother..

Mine's PPG Viper Blue if you like that color. Just..clearcoat it. Or learn to love waxing.

jeeping1974

12-10-2007, 03:15 PM

and after all that work..... i guess you would of had to do it anyways though. is this one in better condition? is that the reason for the swap?

1977cherokeechief

12-10-2007, 04:18 PM

thats weird,

there is rust where there is supposed to be oil and grease under the hood:thumbsup:

Dmntxn77

12-10-2007, 08:19 PM

and after all that work..... i guess you would of had to do it anyways though. is this one in better condition? is that the reason for the swap?

This one has..
No rust (minor surface stuff only)
400 miles on crate 360 with edlebrock intake/carb, RV cam, and TFI..
200 miles on rebuilt tranny with high stall TC and shift kit
Good paint
Razor grille

The only things that are bad...
Auto tranny (I am keeping my T-18 for later)
Q/T (I hate not being in control)
Post mount rear springs (will SOA anyway, just wont be a bolt on job)

thats weird,

there is rust where there is supposed to be oil and grease under the hood:thumbsup:

Thats not really rust.. Its glue residue and hood insulation.. (mostly at least)..

Stuka

12-10-2007, 08:42 PM

Is it just the dark photo, or is the back a few inches low?

shimniok

12-10-2007, 08:45 PM

real nice!

Dmntxn77

12-11-2007, 09:30 AM

Is it just the dark photo, or is the back a few inches low?

The back is way lower at the moment since the front is SOA, and the rear is stock.. For now, I will probably just get some longer U bolts to run the 4" block until I get time to fix it correctly..

So, stay tuned while I do a shackle flip on the rear..

:thumbsup:

Stuka

12-11-2007, 01:25 PM

:thumbsup:

oh haha... I suppose I should read more carefully :P

1977cherokeechief

12-11-2007, 02:00 PM

Thats not really rust.. Its glue residue and hood insulation.. (mostly at least)..

my bad, it was supposed to be a joke

Dmntxn77

12-11-2007, 03:06 PM

my bad, it was supposed to be a joke

No worries... I just dont want the new Chief to get his feelings hurt.. ;)

AlsChopShop

12-11-2007, 03:13 PM

did you swap the new springs over too?

Al

Dmntxn77

12-11-2007, 07:51 PM

did you swap the new springs over too?

Al

I am going to swap them over when I do the shackle flip.. Sorry..

Rompn

12-13-2007, 07:17 AM

Subscribing... :thumbsup:

Dmntxn77

12-14-2007, 10:08 PM

Hopefully there will be a little progress tomorrow.. I wanna drive for goodness sake.. I am growing VERY weary of all wrenchin and no wheelin..

Earthquake

12-14-2007, 10:56 PM

Newbie Here,:thumbsup:

Cool Project,;) Keep up the good work, :fsj:

Dmntxn77

12-16-2007, 09:48 PM

Well, its official...

I didnt get ANYTHING done on the Jeep this weekend..

I did however, take a couple pics so that you all could see how it sits in the daylight..

The rear is still several inches lower than the front, and I dont have the wheel spacer installed on passenger side rear axle yet..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/BeforeRearLift3.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/BeforeRearLift2.jpg

stumpjumper3

12-16-2007, 10:11 PM

Wow, that is one sharp looking rig. even with the sag in the rear it looks bad Great Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogley. Looking foward to seeing more progress.:thumbsup:

Poley

12-18-2007, 09:19 AM

good work

mrcorvetteman

12-19-2007, 12:00 AM

....and to think I put off rotating my tires because it was wet and cold (40 f) outside. Nice work. how long did that take? :thumbsup:

Dmntxn77

12-19-2007, 12:26 AM

....and to think I put off rotating my tires because it was wet and cold (40 f) outside. Nice work. how long did that take? :thumbsup:

Day 1:
To remove the front clip and pull the motor/tranny/case from the 79.. about 5 hours..

Day 2:
To finish stripping the 79 including the entire suspension, clutch assembly, and load it on the trailer... about 6 hours

Day 3:
To install the axles/springs/steering ect., load the D44's in a trailer, and clean up my mess of parts and tools... about 14 hours

It took over an hour to figure out how to get the rear axle to fit.. The PO had some strange aux tank/receiver hitch support that I had to hack off.. Also, the factory coffin tank skid plate was in the way, so I had to start removing that.. After I got all the bolts out, I was able to force the axle in. The plate is still sitting on top of the pinion support, so the drivers side rear is about 2"s taller than the passenger side rear.. I will fix that in a couple days when I get back over there..

BTW.. 40 degrees would have been WARM!! The temp was right above freezing, and WET.. It was HORRIBLE!!!!

I bought some "U" bolts today that will allow me to fit the 4" blocks on the rear for now.. I plan to drop the rear springs under the frame, and do a shackle flip on the rear, but I will probably wait until I get back to Texas for that. I am only an average welder, and I dont have the best luck welding COLD steel.. Once I get home, I will have my heated garage to work in.. :thumbsup: Plus, its looking like I wont go back until May, so I wont need a heater anyway..

I am dedicating Thursday to the Jeep. My plans include:
Rear blocks
Rotating rear shackle down only if necessary to get it close to level
Install working Q/T
Install F&R shafts
Replace the passenger side rear wheel studs and install the 3" spacer
Replace the starter
Do a little carb tuning

AND...

DRIVE IT HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

jode

12-19-2007, 10:48 AM

Dad gum you are ambitious in cold weather. That job sounds like Hell in that weather. Fixin' to be a sweet rig though :thumbsup:

Dmntxn77

12-19-2007, 10:52 AM

Yes... The weather was less than desirable!!! I froze my WET @ss off!

AlsChopShop

12-19-2007, 11:16 PM

this reminds me, i need to get some more kerosene for my heater in my nice warm 30x36 shop so i can finish up mine. :thumbsup:

sorry, had too! :p

Al

Dmntxn77

12-19-2007, 11:31 PM

this reminds me, i need to get some more kerosene for my heater in my nice warm 30x36 shop so i can finish up mine. :thumbsup:

sorry, had too! :p

Al

I need some of pirates smilies for a comment like that... :cool:

Dmntxn77

12-20-2007, 12:20 AM

Good news... I started digging through another batch of Christmas boxes, and I found all the bits and pieces to convert my rear shackle flip to work on my post mount Chief.. I guess they arrived yesterday, but I didnt see it through the rest of the pile..

Anyway.. THANKS TAD!!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/PostMountShackleFlipParts.jpg

BRUTUS

12-20-2007, 08:23 AM

I need some of pirates smilies for a comment like that... :cool:

:flipoff2: does the trick and is still family friendly!

Tad

12-20-2007, 01:02 PM

...THANKS TAD!!
You are most welcome.
The rig is looking very good (I had not looked in a week or more).

Dmntxn77

12-21-2007, 02:12 AM

Well, I didnt get anything done on Thursday..

BUT.. I have new motivation to make some progress starting Friday morning.. Actually, thats now.. I better get to bed.. :eek:

Dmntxn77

12-21-2007, 07:38 PM

Today I managed to do a little work..

I finally replaced the rear passenger side lug studs and installed the 3" spacer.. It looks SO much better with the spacer. At first I was upset when I found out that my axles came from a C&C truck, but now I am glad. With the spacers, the rear hubs are tucked away from potental damage just like the front..

Next, I put 4" blocks in the rear to get the gas tank skid plate off the D70 pumpkin.. The blocks almost leveled the Jeep out, but rear is still about an inch lower than the front. The blocks are just temporary anyway until I get better work conditions to weld up the rear shackle flip.

Then, I wasted about 2 hours trying to figure out why the D*** thing wont start.. I replaced the starter, and am now hoping that the battery is the problem.

Then I replaced the bad Q/T case.. I dont reccomend doing that yourself!!

Here is how it sits now.. Its 48"s from the ground to the edge of the front flare.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/PassengerFrontCorner.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/DriversSide.jpg

Tomorrow, I plan to:
Replace battery
Install both driveshafts
Replace all 3 brake lines
Bend rear hard line (drum-drum)
Bleed brakes
Fill Q/T case
Install front shocks (I dont have rear shock mounts yet)

Then off to the bumper builder I go... :D

Dmntxn77

12-22-2007, 06:01 PM

I got called in to work for a until about lunch time, so I got a late start..

I did however, get it running (new battery and terminals), so that is always good..

Then I topped off the lube in the D70 (a bit drained out when I pulled the shaft yesterday..

And I filled the Q/T, and topped off the tranny fluid (lost some when I dropped the Q/T yesterday)..

AND, I finally got the front shaft in. I dont really like the angle though.. IT seems steeper with the TH400/QT than it was with the T-18/D20.. It doesnt really matter though since I am going to ditch the auto ASAP..

The original rear shaft fits good too. The extra length of the D70 pinion along with the lift, makes the shaft look custom fit :thumbsup:. I need to get it loosened up though.. It is currently seized in the collapsed postion, so I hope I can free it..

SOOOO.... Tomorrow, I plan to:
Free up and install the rear shaft
Replace the brake lines with the new style ones from BJ's (d**m NICE lines BTW)
Bend up the rear hard line
Bleed the brakes
Install the front shocks..

AND call it good.. I need to get it on a trailer ASAP for the bumper build..

Sambo

12-22-2007, 07:12 PM

looking good :thumbsup:

Dmntxn77

12-23-2007, 03:08 PM

looking good :thumbsup:

Thanks....

I got the rear shaft loosened up (major PITA) and installed, capped the rear brake line (forgot to take the line bender with me :banghead: ), and bled the front brakes..

I decided to leave the front brake lines on until I add the hydro assist.

It turns out that my front shaft is maxed out.. In chatters REAL bad. I dont really want to mess with it though until I get the T-18/D20 in, since I am sure the angle and lenths will change. I never had the front hard mounted in before, but it looked WAY better connected to the D20..

ANYWAY, it starts, rolls, and stops, so I am happy. My goal was simply to be able to get it on the trailer, and I accomplished it.

After I get it back from the bumper builder, I will continue to fix and adjust everything.

There is a huge list of minor issues that need serious attention..

For Example..
Rear brake lines (STILL)
E-brake cables
Rear shock mounts
Coffin tank rests on D70
Aux tank is not plumbed properly
Rear window does not work (have stuff to switch to manual)
Carb needs some attention
Battery is not secure
Exhaust is hacked (had to in order to remove Q/T)
AND
The list goes on and on... ;)

Elliott

12-23-2007, 06:48 PM

I think if you use some GM rear shackes at the back you can get ~1" of lift from them. It's coming along nice... I was just thinking that if I did a build thread like this I'd probably post up something new at least once a year.;) That Chero looks real sweet Rob, and I have that hydroboost mapped out for you (updated some of the info in the forsale thread and it will be a lil cheaper from me but you will need to get or have Gary build you a 7/8" spacer). Your Chero will really stand out in WA, nice work.:cool:

Dmntxn77

12-23-2007, 10:09 PM

Thanks for the compliments...

Well, I have not flipped the shackle yet, so I would probably lose that inch..

I will PM you soon regarding the hydoboost..

Elliott

12-23-2007, 10:16 PM

Yeah, I could actually have it ready to ship tomorrow, but don't know if the post office is going to be open... prolly not till the 26th.

I always wanted to do something like that with my Cherokees I had that's why I appreciate how good it looks whatcha got done there.

BRUTUS

12-26-2007, 08:32 AM

This thread needs wheeling pics soon!!!

Looking real good!

Gambler68

12-26-2007, 09:39 AM

Wow.. that's sweeeet. Nice job.

Dmntxn77

12-26-2007, 11:02 AM

This thread needs wheeling pics soon!!!

Looking real good!

Got that right!!

BRUTUS

12-26-2007, 01:05 PM

Got that right!!

Might I suggest Moab in April?

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Dmntxn77

12-26-2007, 07:30 PM

AlsChopShop

12-27-2007, 04:43 PM

I wanted to come, but it looks like I am going to be stuck in WA for a few more months... :banghead:

From Amarillo, its under 700 miles, which is doable in day, but from here, its over 1100 miles.. Thats just not gonna happen..i'm thinking about doing it (if my chief is done), where's your sense of adventure? :thumbsup:

Al

rustywagoneers_com

12-27-2007, 07:10 PM

its kinda hard to make powder blue say 'GRRRRRRRR'

but i think you done it :)

peace
Dave

Dmntxn77

12-27-2007, 11:11 PM

i'm thinking about doing it (if my chief is done), where's your sense of adventure? :thumbsup:

Al

I guess you forgot.. I have 4 kids.. EVERYDAY is an adventure!

I just dont have the heart to take a week off to go 4 wheelin and leaving the wife alone with the kids.. She already has to deal with them everyday.. The only break she gets is the couple hours between when I get home from work, and the time I go to bed..

its kinda hard to make powder blue say 'GRRRRRRRR'

but i think you done it :)

peace
Dave

Thanks.. I was thinking the same thing...

If a person wants to make fun of the color, they better be packing the goods, because if they cant keep up... They only thought that THEY had the jokes... :thumbsup:

bigun

12-28-2007, 12:06 AM

Bring the wife and kids!

Dmntxn77

12-28-2007, 10:02 AM

Bring the wife and kids!

Over two thousand miles round trip with a 6 year old, 3 year old, 2 year old, and 6 month old (by then), does not exactly sound like a stress free journey..

THEN, I would only be in WA for a couple more weeks, and have to turn around and drive them down to Texas the first week in May..

Now if the trip was a month later, you could almost put money on me being there..

xupe45tgp

12-28-2007, 10:25 AM

THEN, I would only be in WA for a couple more weeks, and have to turn around and drive them down to Texas the first week in May..

We could do a river run in Amarillo in May??? I plan on coming out there to wheel real soon.

Dmntxn77

12-28-2007, 10:34 AM

We could do a river run in Amarillo in May??? I plan on coming out there to wheel real soon.

BIG possibility!! I cant make any FOR SURE plans until I get firm dates on my return though..

AlsChopShop

01-03-2008, 02:58 PM

any updates??

don't you understand i'm living vicariously through you? this way i don't feel as bad when i don't make any progress on my own rig. :thumbsup:

Al

Dmntxn77

01-03-2008, 05:12 PM

Sorry...

I have not touched it since the 23rd..

I am suppose to go the bumper builder on Sunday though.. Maybe I will take a trailer shot with it behind the new Caddy. :thumbsup:

billyrb

01-03-2008, 06:10 PM

Robert, your rig is looking KILLER! I really like the look!

Dmntxn77

01-03-2008, 07:36 PM

Thanks!!

TPICherokee

01-03-2008, 09:28 PM

Nah, your rig sucks, you should give the whole thing to me and start over to see if you can do any better. Oh, and I don't want it until your new front bumper is on... lol

Dmntxn77

01-03-2008, 09:35 PM

Sounds good.. Let me know when I can drop it off...

:lol:

Dmntxn77

01-06-2008, 05:13 PM

I dropped the Chief off at the bumper builder today.. I am getting a front winch bumper with a stinger..

I am still thinking about the rear bumper, and I am not sure that I can work it in on the same deal...

We also had some talk of a cage.. Just waiting on a price for it..

Soooo, I may not have the Jeep back for a while.. Its kind of a relief though.. I need a break from it anyway. :thumbsup:

Hammer

01-13-2008, 07:39 PM

Can you do me a favor and measure your tire height with the normal weight on them?
If the 16.5" version of our tires(38.5" TSL/SX) is really THAT much taller then the 15" version, then I might just stick with the 38.5" TSL SX when I swap the 1 tons in.

AND, how do you like those high steering arms? Are they worth the extra dough?

Dmntxn77

01-13-2008, 07:48 PM

I will remeasure them next time I go to the fabricators house..

However, last time I measured the front tires, and they did have full weight on them. As you know, the SX's are taller in the center of tread, and that is what measured right at 38.5"s. It was about 3/4" shorter at the outside edge.

Hammer

01-13-2008, 07:54 PM

Yeah, I know the center is taller, my sides only measured 35" something!!!
How much air pressure did you have in the tires when you measured?

I am sort of torn, I would like to run the 39.5" TSLs, but I would rather have the SX tire (but the biggest is the 38.5" of course).

Dmntxn77

01-13-2008, 08:03 PM

Personally, if I were only dealing with a 1" difference, I would go with the SX's... I will have to swap to TSL's for my next set though since I will step up to 42"s..

Dmntxn77

04-20-2008, 11:12 PM

Well, its been over 3 months since an update, so I figure that its about time... Or overdue maybe..

Anyway, none of this is really news since most of you already read my other threads, but for the sake of keeping it all together....

I really have not done anything new myself, but now that it is home, I hope to knock some more stuff out. It will have to wait until I finish parting the 89 though..

However... Here are some pics of my new bumper. I was lucky enough to be given the opportunity to design it, and have it made by a local fabricator. It is now being sold by BJ's Off-Road, as a replacement to their old Cliffhanger style front bumper.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Bumper/P1010723.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Bumper/P1010722.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Bumper/P1010728.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Bumper/P1010730.jpg

Then, while I had it at the fabricators house, I had him throw in a simple cage.. (about 200' worth) :D And, I figure that every family wheeler needs 4 Corbeau Baja SS seats, so I went ahead and got 4 for mine.. :thumbsup:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Cage/AlmostDone8.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Cage/AlmostDone15.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Cage/AlmostDone14.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Cage/AlmostDone2.jpg

I still have A LOT to do before I can get it on the trails..

Now I am on the line regarding whether or not I want to keep the auto or switch to the T-18... Eitherway, I wont keep the QT since I have a TH400/D20 combo here that I can put in instead.. I also still need to finish the rear suspension. I have decided to go with 63" GM springs under the frame.. I just need to find the springs...

I will continue to post updates once I actually get to work on it again.. :rolleyes2:

rampagefsj

04-20-2008, 11:33 PM

I really like how that thing's looking. The bumper and cage rock!:cool:

jeeping1974

04-21-2008, 01:45 AM

Dmntxn77

04-21-2008, 01:46 AM

Thanks..

Also, I forgot to add one more thing..

After the cage was finished, I had the knucles pulled, and the pinion rotated up about 12 degrees..

The driveline angle looks great now... Before, it was not even close to wheelable. It chattered real bad and would bind a little just getting the Cheif on the trailer.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/D60%20Front/RotatedPinon4.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/1%20ton%20swap/D60%20Front/RotatedPinon3.jpg

Dmntxn77

04-21-2008, 01:51 AM

since your going to be pulling the tranny and qt-case out anyways, you might as well throw in the t-18/d20 combo. no since in pulling one auto and t-case just to throw in another set if your going to be putting the manual in someday. if you have the parts, i'd say put in the manual.

Oh, maybe I was not clear... IF I decide to put the TH400/D20 combo in, I will not be pulling it in favor of the T18/D20... I would probably keep the T18 "just in case", but I am starting to entertain the thought of keeping an auto in it. I would however HAVE to swap trannys because I will NEVER have a QT on a trail rig... When I swap transfer cases, it will be in favor of a Stak Monster Box...

j20brett

04-21-2008, 08:56 AM

Keep on keepin on Robert. Looks great! i needed some motivation :D

Dirtball

04-21-2008, 09:13 AM

Robert... YOU SUCK!!

But you're a great guy anyway... ;)

shimniok

04-21-2008, 09:10 PM

That rig is looking awesome! Really like that bumper design a lot, too.

Dmntxn77

04-21-2008, 09:41 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys!!

fulsizjeep

04-22-2008, 08:16 AM

I will NEVER have a QT on a trail rig...Never say never.
No guts no glory.
Life is like a box of chocolate.
I could go on... but why?
:D
http://jubileejeeps.org/quadratrac/qtking.jpg

ArmyGreenSexyBeast

04-22-2008, 08:29 PM

WOW :eek: gorgeous

Poley

04-29-2008, 12:56 PM

very nice

AlsChopShop

04-29-2008, 03:34 PM

i find your sudden lack of updates disturbing.....

;)

Al

Dmntxn77

04-29-2008, 05:33 PM

Yeah... Actually, the latest set of pics are from a week ago, but for some reason, the title wont change.

Hopefully I will have something to update soon.. I have been overwhelmed with parting the Waggy among other things, and the Chief has not got touched in a while...

fulsizjeep

04-29-2008, 06:48 PM

i find your sudden lack of updates disturbing.....

Robert might be reconsidering the whole approach he has towards Quadratracs but I doubt it. :D

Dmntxn77

04-29-2008, 09:15 PM

Robert might be reconsidering the whole approach he has towards Quadratracs but I doubt it. :D

:lol:

If I were building a rig for my wife, I would be keeping the QT... :thumbsup:

1ton75chero

05-07-2008, 11:29 PM

Dmntxn77

05-08-2008, 12:03 AM

looks good man. i've been following this build on pirate but hadn't found it on here till now. weren't you talking about doing a 203/205 over there? still any plans on it? i've got a Jed's, pretty cheap and really nicely done.

Yeah, I am considering a 203/205 doubler along with a couple other options too. Currently I am trying to price out a Klune-V to np205 set-up also.

If you dont mind me asking, how much did you pay for your doubler? I cant find prices on their site.

1ton75chero

05-08-2008, 09:21 AM

it was $530, including shipping, and I got a gauge with the contour needed to grind the shiftrails for twinsticking the 205, and I got a nice shifter bracket that makes shifting the inner shiftrail super easy. It went together really easy and is really a good looking peice. I'll see if i can figure out how to post pictures of it if you're interested in seeing them.

jeeper4life

05-08-2008, 04:40 PM

Your jeep looks great! It looks proportioned right and ready to hit some really nasty trails. Are you locked up on one end or both? Anyway that thing looks awesome! I think I need a bumper just like yours on my wagoneer.

:thumbsup:

Erik

Dmntxn77

05-08-2008, 05:52 PM

I have a factory Power Loc in the rear, and I will just weld the front before I start hitting the trails.

If you want a bumper like mine, contact BJ's Off-Road. It was built to replace their Cliffhanger style bumpers. I am not sure when they plan to put them in full production.

Dmntxn77

05-27-2008, 09:05 PM

No updates, due to no progress...

However, I have finally decided on a transfer case..

I am going with a simple twin sticked, chevy figure 8 np205...
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Stuffed behind a Klune-V... :D:D:D

Its offical (this time)...

I just made a deal with for a Klune-V Goliath EXTREME UNDERDIRVE 2.7:1 case.. :D :D :D (Thanks Ryan)

So my gear options will be: 1:1, 2:1, 2.7:1, & 5.4:1

Along with the 4.88's in my axles, I should be good-to-go... :thumbsup:

I just have to collect the th400-Klune adapter, rebuild the tranny, and find a np205 :eek:

Also, I have also received all the brackets, from TT's Fabworks that I need (thanks Tad) to mount 63" Chevy springs under the frame rails in the rear. I just need to find some springs now...

I finally feel like I am on the down hill slope here. Once the cases are in, I will be able to determine my wheel base, and the rear suspension should be easy enough to set-up.

The only other MAJOR item is the saddle fuel tank that is sitting on my rear diff.. However, the aux tank is already in stalled, so I just have to "delete" the factory tank and do a little plumbing...

All the rest of the minor stuff will be easy compared to the rest of this junk...

AlsChopShop

05-27-2008, 09:38 PM

sounds like a great plan, with that many choices you're not going to be able to decide what set of lowrange to run before an obsticle! ;)

what aux tank are you running?

Al

Dmntxn77

05-28-2008, 01:18 AM

sounds like a great plan, with that many choices you're not going to be able to decide what set of lowrange to run before an obsticle! ;)

what aux tank are you running?

Al

For a while, until I lear how to drive it, I will be trying them all at every obsticle... :D

The Chief has the Trailblazer aux tank. It sits more flush than anyother tank that I have seen used so far. One of these days, since I have a 2" BL, I will raise the tank up to the floor and mod the factory skid plate to protect the aux tank instead... If I find that I still hit it, I will just bring it up through the floor..

This is all assuming that I dont just go with propane instead. :thumbsup:

BTW, Al, if you want a Trailblazer tank, I have a real nice one that I can sell you. You can pick it up when you come up to get your springs.. :eek:

wickedwagon767

05-28-2008, 01:36 AM

The Chief has the Trailblazer aux tank. It sits more flush than anyother tank that I have seen used so far.

curious. What is the Trailblazer tank's capacity and what year models are good candidates?

I've heard of the Bronco tank conversion,but not the Trailblazer.

Dmntxn77

05-28-2008, 01:40 AM

curious. What is the Trailblazer tank's capacity and what year models are good candidates?

I've heard of the Bronco tank conversion,but not the Trailblazer.

Not Chevy Trailblazer..

That is the brand of the dealer installed aux tanks.

It is about 20 gallons or so IIRC...

jeeping1974

05-28-2008, 03:30 AM

sounds like your going to have a good choice of gear ratios for all types of wheeling. :thumbsup:

What are you running for a rear suspension now? When you install the chevy springs, will it raise the rear of the chief? Any idea how much? If so, what are you going to do about the front? Does this mean larger tires sooner than you thought?

As for the tranny rebuild, are you just goona go with a stock rebuild kit of something better? You going to do it yourself? If not, I'd hate to see you take it to a shop and be charged 7.4 hours bench time. Thats what the tranny shop charged me to rebuild mine because thats what the "factory" says about how long it should take.

wickedwagon767

05-28-2008, 03:55 AM

I'd hate to see you take it to a shop and be charged 7.4 hours bench time. Thats what the tranny shop charged me to rebuild mine because thats what the "factory" says about how long it should take.

yikes!

'round here shops generally charge $300 labor if you bring them the tranny. $600-700 if they pull it and put back in.

Dmntxn77

05-28-2008, 12:21 PM

What are you running for a rear suspension now? When you install the chevy springs, will it raise the rear of the chief? Any idea how much? If so, what are you going to do about the front? Does this mean larger tires sooner than you thought?

Right now, it has the factory springs in the factory post mount position, with the 4" blocks that came with the Jeep. The back of the Jeep still sits about 2"-3"s lower than the front.

I am guessing that the 63" springs mounted under the frame will give me 6"-8"s of lift. That will bring my rear up anywhere between level and 2"s or so higher than the front. I have a pair of Chevy front shackles that I can add to raise the front an extra 3/4" if the rear is too high. However, I dont mind the rear being a bit higher than the front anyway.

Plus, once I add my heavy rear bumper loaded with the hi-jack, jerry can, cooler, and spare, along with a full aux tank, I expect the rear to drop at least an inch or more.

As for the tranny rebuild, are you just goona go with a stock rebuild kit of something better? You going to do it yourself? If not, I'd hate to see you take it to a shop and be charged 7.4 hours bench time. Thats what the tranny shop charged me to rebuild mine because thats what the "factory" says about how long it should take.

I am going to have a local shop rebuild it. They will add a shift kit, and some beef up components. They only charge $450 for the shift kit, and an extra $50-$100 depending on how strong I want it. I will come with a 2yr-24,000 mile warranty.

If I get lazy, they charge another $500 to R&R it.

yikes!

'round here shops generally charge $300 labor if you bring them the tranny. $600-700 if they pull it and put back in.

Thats the cheapest I have ever heard for a rebuild... Even more amazing price if you have them R&R it...

AlsChopShop

05-28-2008, 01:07 PM

BTW, Al, if you want a Trailblazer tank, I have a real nice one that I can sell you. You can pick it up when you come up to get your springs.. :eek:already have one.... :thumbsup:

i'm interested in seeing how you plumb it for a main tank though.

Al

Dmntxn77

05-28-2008, 01:31 PM

already have one.... :thumbsup:

i'm interested in seeing how you plumb it for a main tank though.

Al

Ahhh...

Mine will be easy since it already has a seperate fill cap next to the factory cap.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/AuxTankFiller.jpg

I will just have to pull the tubes that connect the two tanks, cap the holes, and run the feed line straight to the carb. There should already be vent line hooked up.

I will need to find a new spot to mount my electric fuel pump since is currently sitting outside the frame rail right under the tank selector lever next to the driver. It is just asking to get ripped off right there.

Actually, the pump is a pretty bulky unit, so I might just replace it with something newer and more compact.

AlsChopShop

05-28-2008, 03:15 PM

but no pickup tube?

i am using a carter electric pump mounted to the inner framerail right above the crossmember, can't get hurt up there. but i do need to mount it closer to the tank once i swap out the saddle because fuel pumps are pushers, not pullers. you may want to mount it closer to the tank.

Al

Dmntxn77

05-28-2008, 11:13 PM

jeeping1974

05-29-2008, 02:45 AM

you might not need the shackles up front with all that extra weight in the back. sounds good though! :thumbsup: can't wait to see it.

4x4fEvEr

05-29-2008, 08:24 AM

just lookin over your thread. and well you suck. ive been workin on mine since sept 06 and still not done. your cage looks badass!

Dmntxn77

05-29-2008, 03:06 PM

you might not need the shackles up front with all that extra weight in the back. sounds good though! :thumbsup: can't wait to see it.

Who knows... Well see. There are a lot of variables with the 63"s, so until I get a set......

just lookin over your thread. and well you suck. ive been workin on mine since sept 06 and still not done. your cage looks badass!

:thumbsup:

AlsChopShop

05-29-2008, 04:02 PM

I havent had it out yet, but I assume the tank already has a pick up. If it didnt, why would it need a fuel pump?the trailblazer tank is an overflow only, it does not have a pickup. your electric fuel pump is running off your main tank, not the aux. unless the PO did something tricky....

Al

jeeping1974

05-29-2008, 04:23 PM

Who knows... Well see. There are a lot of variables with the 63"s, so until I get a set......

I got mine out of a truck that had them flipped to under the axle. they still have great arch. yeah you are right though. just gotta wait to see what you get.

Dmntxn77

05-29-2008, 08:12 PM

unless the PO did something tricky....

Al

I think thats the case with mine.. Most aux tanks fill via overflow too, and mine obivously does not.

AlsChopShop

05-30-2008, 01:00 PM

can you grab some pictures of the setup for me?

Al

Dmntxn77

05-30-2008, 01:07 PM

can you grab some pictures of the setup for me?

Al

Yep, I am interested to go look at it myself. I havent paid much attention to it yet..

Dmntxn77

05-30-2008, 10:26 PM

Its as I suspected. The two tanks are not connected in any way. They have seperate fill lines, and seperate feed lines. The closest they come to touching is at the pump selector valve. I figured that the aux tank was like all the rest, but with capped overflow lines, however, thats not the case. The only hole on the front edge of the tank is for the feed line.

However, it appears that the saddle tanks feeds from the top like it is suppose to, but the aux tank feeds from the bottom edge. I would have to assume that it is gravity fed. That would be fine on the highway (as long as you used the aux tank first), but obivously no good for the trail...

I will post pics when I get home since I cant access photobucket at the office.

Dmntxn77

05-31-2008, 02:49 PM

Here are the pics Al...

They suck, but the space is obivously tight, plus I just used my phone...

Aux filler Hose: Notice it goes straight from the filler to the tank.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Aux%20Fuel%20Tank/AuxFillerHose.jpg

Front side of tank: There are no over flow lines here. Just the feed line that goes in at a 90* angle into the tank. The hose that you can see is the saddle tank fill hose. It is not connected to the aux tank, it is just routed past it.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Aux%20Fuel%20Tank/Frontsideoftank.jpg

Selector valve: The only place the tanks come together.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Aux%20Fuel%20Tank/SelectorValve.jpg

Dmntxn77

06-21-2008, 03:01 AM

I am SLOWLY making progress on this pig...

Well, not really much effort, but a lot of buying..

I bought a Klune from Ryan and FINALLY picked it up from the in-laws house (where I had it delivered) on Wednesday. He shipped it a couple weeks ago, but I have so much going on at the moment, I actually FORGOT about it... Anyway, I havent opened the box yet, but I am stoked that it is here..

THEN, last night I bought a 32 spline input, figure 8 pattern, fully rebuilt, np205 for $595 SHIPPED, off ebay. I dont know what this case runs where you are, but that is the cheapest that I have found up here by about $200 (rebuilt). In fact, a non-rebuilt 32 spline np205 usually runs about that in this area. I pretty much gave up on my search for the case alone, and decided to just buy a Cheby with D60/14bolt, th400, and np205 JUST for the case then have to sell the rest... ANYWAY, it is obivous that I am excited about this score!!

Now, I just need to scrape together another grand or so to get the th400 to Klune adapter with tailshaft, and a tranny rebuild.

I also need to go pick up the 63" springs that I found... They are only $75 at a local yard which seems like a good deal to me too..

Anyway, stay tuned for updates because I expect things to really start rolling from here..

I hope I can find the extra grand laying in around before the NW trail run next month... :eek:

jeeping1974

06-21-2008, 03:26 AM

Sounds like its coming together and is almost done.

That is the price that 2 junks yards gave me for the same springs so its average I would guess.

Dmntxn77

06-21-2008, 03:29 AM

Sounds like its coming together and is almost done.

That is the price that 2 junks yards gave me for the same springs so its average I would guess.

Thats funny.. What do the springs go for on Craigslist there? Here they bring and EASY $125- $150... I only called ONE yard and got $75.. I guess people (like I did) that yards would want more.. :huh:

If I had the energy, I would buy all that they have an make an extra buck or two.. Im just too busy to deal with it...

jeeping1974

06-21-2008, 07:31 AM

its hard to find 63" springs on craigslist here but most full size truck springs are going for about $75-$250 depending on what they came off. Most 1/2 tons are $50-$100.

Slick Willie

06-21-2008, 11:04 AM

I got my Chevy 63's for $60, and I found another set on Craigslist about a year ago for $40, so now I have a spare set. The guy on Craigslist had a Chevy 1/2 ton that he just bagged and dropped, so he had no use for the springs. I didn't talk to him long at all, if you could imagine. But they're pretty cheap around big cities in Texas (for sale, not junk yards...they're high).

wickedwagon767

06-21-2008, 11:31 AM

I got my 63's in trade for a case of beer,but the (3) other sets I've seen here recently were $60-75 a pair. I know of a set I could grab for $50 that are still under a '97 4wd light duty 3/4 ton truck about 45 minutes west of me in Fort Worth.

Have yet to see a pair go near or over $100

Dmntxn77

06-21-2008, 11:39 AM

Yeah, I would expect that they would be cheaper in TX...

Dmntxn77

10-01-2008, 09:21 AM

Well, no one wants to buy this pig, so I guess I will finish it...I have done a few things since I last updated this thread... I will work on an update post soon for those of you that have sent me PM's and e-mail's with questions....

jeeping1974

10-01-2008, 10:18 AM

you were trying to sell it? why?

Dmntxn77

10-01-2008, 11:32 AM

you were trying to sell it? why?

Yep, its been in the for sale section for a while..

I just wanted to sell all but the axles and wheels/tires.

Reason??? Mainly because this thing needs a lot of work and I feel that swapping the 1 tons, klune, and 205 to my extra v8 ZJ would give me a better wheeler...

BUT, I will just finish it, try to tear the hell out of it, and if I succeed I will then put the 1 tons on my ZJ...

misfittom138

10-01-2008, 12:07 PM

Yep, its been in the for sale section for a while..

I just wanted to sell all but the axles and wheels/tires.

Reason??? Mainly because this thing needs a lot of work and I feel that swapping the 1 tons, klune, and 205 to my extra v8 ZJ would give me a better wheeler...

BUT, I will just finish it, try to tear the hell out of it, and if I succeed I will then put the 1 tons on my ZJ...

I would take a rig with a frame over unibody anyday! :thumbsup:

orangecherokee

10-01-2008, 12:52 PM

Cliff note this thread and tell me us what's left.

I have a response but I'm saving it.

Dmntxn77

10-01-2008, 01:48 PM

I would take a rig with a frame over unibody anyday! :thumbsup:

I will build a "U" channel subframe/stiffiner to build a long arm system off of..

Cliff note this thread and tell me us what's left.

I have a response but I'm saving it.

You lost me... What are you saving your response for?

krek

10-01-2008, 01:57 PM

You lost me... What are you saving your response for?

Hopefully, Pirate.

j20brett

10-01-2008, 02:31 PM

You dont think that beast will wheel with the others? Are you nuts? You havent even had it out yet to see how capable it really is. And capability has alot to do with driver skill...

TexTJ209

10-01-2008, 03:30 PM

Random question, but whats the paint code for the blue paint on your Chief?

jeeping1974

10-01-2008, 03:31 PM

the 75 will be more cabable than the 98 will be. You've put so much work into it and won't finish it......

bushwood44

10-01-2008, 03:57 PM

Glad your keeping it:thumbsup:

AlsChopShop

10-01-2008, 04:36 PM

about time you came to your senses.... :thumbsup:

Al

Michael

10-01-2008, 06:23 PM

Good news Robert, so there will be no lighting it on fire and rolling down a hill. Now get your butt in gear finish it up move back to Tx so we can see what it will do.

orangecherokee

10-01-2008, 06:41 PM

Hopefully, Pirate.

:rolleyes:

Great Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogley are you and why do you have the chip on your shoulder?

Dmntxn77

10-01-2008, 06:48 PM

You dont think that beast will wheel with the others? Are you nuts? You havent even had it out yet to see how capable it really is. And capability has alot to do with driver skill...

I didnt mean to imply that the Chief wont be capable... And the driver skill is pretty much a moot point since the driver will be the same... ;)

However, the ZJ does have some advantages though. For example:
More HP
More TRQ
Fuel Injection
Smaller
Ligher
Coil sprung link suspension (yeah I can do that to my Chief)

However, the Chief does have A LOT more character!!!

Random question, but whats the paint code for the blue paint on your Chief?

I think the tag is still under the hood and I will go check for you later..

the 75 will be more cabable than the 98 will be. You've put so much work into it and won't finish it......

My 98 5.9 Limited will NEVER be wheeled as long as I own it!!

I also have a 93 Grand Waggy ZJ that currently has a 4" lift that is the perfect canidate for 1 tons...

Glad your keeping it:thumbsup:

about time you came to your senses.... :thumbsup:

Al

Yeah, Im kinda glad too. Im just getting burned out on it... Switching projects for a while there has been a nice break though..

Good news Robert, so there will be no lighting it on fire and rolling down a hill. Now get your butt in gear finish it up move back to Tx so we can see what it will do.

Well, I wont be catching it on fire and rolling it down a hill ON PURPOSE now.. However, with my driving style, dont be surprised to see it happen someday...

As far as me getting back to Texas... Well, thats going to be quite a bit longer now... I just got orders TODAY for another 179 here in WA...

One member for sure is going to be pretty upset about that... Now Im gonna have to mail a bumper to NM.... :banghead:

j20brett

10-01-2008, 07:51 PM

LOL well i wants pics of it doing the crazy insane trails then...and i was commenting on driver skill in general, no reference to you fyi :thumbsup:

Still a great project though!

Dmntxn77

10-01-2008, 08:38 PM

LOL well i wants pics of it doing the crazy insane trails then...and i was commenting on driver skill in general, no reference to you fyi :thumbsup:

Still a great project though!

Dont worry, there was no offense taken... Im not that great of a driver because I have spent more time building that I have wheelin... However, what I lack in driving skills, I make up for with throttle... :eek: :thumbsup:

j20brett

10-01-2008, 09:14 PM

lol i resemble that remark...:D

tylerd13

10-01-2008, 10:46 PM

Hey man I know where your coming from, I have been thinking/trying to sell my cherokee and kinda gave up on getting rid of it. Taking a break from it and working on something else helps. I was just tired of not being able to wheel, I have been working on my cherokee for like almost 2 years and it is still not done. I bought a stock 84 toyota 4 runner, and it took me 3 weeks to build, now I have something I can wheel to keep me satisfied till the cherokees done. If i could get my money out of the cherokee I'd part it out and build a 1 ton toyota or something else but its cheaper for me to just finish the cherokee. As much as i love fsj's with the price of fuel and the economy, a truck that gets like 7 miles to the gallon and has to get towed by another truck that gets like 8 miles to the gallon just doesn't make sence to me. I'm glad you decided to finish it tho, I like your cherokee.

Slick Willie

10-02-2008, 05:26 PM

I can't hang with the big boys (smaller, lighter) but I consider it my own class. I wheel a fullsize rig. If I wanted to go anywhere I pointed, I'd build a small light tricked out buggy. I like the challenge of getting a pig over obstacles. But for you, you need to go wheeling already. Get out there and enjoy the fullsize rig.

Casey

10-02-2008, 06:31 PM

I hear ya Robert. You'd lose yer butt selling it off anyway.

My junk is still pushed into the garage. Now that I have the '78 to wheel and drive around, I feel much better about it. At least yours is rolling and running.

Keep the pics coming.

I can't hang with the big boys (smaller, lighter) but I consider it my own class. I wheel a fullsize rig. If I wanted to go anywhere I pointed, I'd build a small light tricked out buggy. I like the challenge of getting a pig over obstacles. But for you, you need to go wheeling already. Get out there and enjoy the fullsize rig.
Nothing like having 36sqft of hood in front of you on a steep downhill breakover!! :omfg:

Man I dig that feeling. Kinda like hearing, "stand in the door"! :cool:

Dmntxn77

10-02-2008, 10:17 PM

But for you, you need to go wheeling already.

Yep, thats the biggest problem here...

I hear ya Robert. You'd lose yer butt selling it off anyway.

My junk is still pushed into the garage. Now that I have the '78 to wheel and drive around, I feel much better about it. At least yours is rolling and running.

Keep the pics coming.

Rolling yes... Running yes... Driving NO... Either the tranny or the case are shot. It will shift into get, but it wont roll...

Doesnt really matter which is the problem though... The case is as good as gone, and the tranny is getting a rebuild as soon as I get the right tailshaft to fit my Klune...

jeeping1974

10-03-2008, 01:33 AM

don't you still have the j20? why not wheel that some?

Sambo

10-03-2008, 04:49 AM

I can't hang with the big boys. I like the challenge of getting a pig over obstacles.enjoy the fullsize rig.
indeed,i have the want for something smaller,but cant bring myself to do it:cool:

yeah robert need to get out and wheel!

AlsChopShop

10-03-2008, 01:18 PM

i feel your pain. i also did what tyler did and got an interim wheeler (toyota pickup) so i could get back on the trails.

now if i can just get it to stop overheating i can head out again on the 12th... ;)

Al

Dmntxn77

10-03-2008, 02:04 PM

don't you still have the j20? why not wheel that some?

Nope, I sold it to help pay for my 98 ZJ 5.9 Limited :thumbsup:

i feel your pain. i also did what tyler did and got an interim wheeler (toyota pickup) so i could get back on the trails.

now if i can just get it to stop overheating i can head out again on the 12th... ;)

Al

The problem is, I already have another wheeler... Its a 93 ZJ with a 4" lift and 31" BFG Muds... The problem is, its in Texas, and Im stuck here in Washington...

Slick Willie

10-03-2008, 04:13 PM

...Either the tranny or the case are shot. It will shift into get, but it wont roll...
Have you checked the tranny fluid? Mine leaks like a stuck pig, and when the fluid level is low, it takes about 3200 RPM's to get it to move. Kinda like easing a clutch. :thumbsup:

Dmntxn77

10-03-2008, 06:30 PM

Yeah, mine leaks like a stuck pig too... It does not seem to matter how full it is, it still does not move.

Of course, I havent done a proper service to make sure the TC is full either... That just might do the trick.... Its kinda pointless though unless I fix the leak...

Hopefully I will have the tailshaft/klune adapter on the way within the next month or so, and I will pull the tranny as soon as that happens anyway...

Dmntxn77

03-23-2011, 09:31 PM

I guess its since I have been popping in here a bit more lately, but I have been getting questions about my Chief like what happened to it, and what my current plans are for it now...

Well, long story short....

I had a family member that needed some $$ to avoid losing their house, so I parted out the Jeep and handed over more money than I care to think about.

I know that I will never see the money again, so the Chief has been put on the back burner for a while. I am just now starting to collect parts again and am making new plans for it learning from my old mistakes.

So, stay tuned for installment number 3 in my build that has lasted FOREVER...

Dmntxn77

03-23-2011, 09:48 PM

Oh, and since we all like pics soooo much on this forum...

Here is how the Chief looks now:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/2-11.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/3-6.jpg

Pretty sad huh... :banghead: :banghead:

BUT, on the good side, the cage is still there and , I do have a few good parts laying around still... For example:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Roll%20Cage/AlmostDone15.jpg

D60/14 Bolt with 4.56's and rear Detroit

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/CCUVAxles.jpg

NP205/ Klune-V

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Klune%20205%20Install/P1030121.jpg

Complete propane set-up with dual aluminum tanks

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Propane%20Install/P1030126.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Propane%20Install/P1030128.jpg

Soooo, I may be down, but dont count me out just yet... :thumbsup:

jeeping1974

03-24-2011, 04:23 AM

Dmntxn77

03-24-2011, 03:45 PM

Was the cage designed to be removed? (I don't remember). Are you going to "re-build" the Cheif or go a new way? I do remember a little while ago you starting a thread about building a custom frame for the body to mount to.

Yeah, Im going to stick with the Chief. I want to build another ZJ or WJ, but I just cant turn my back on the Chief.

The cage cant really be removed, but it can be un-bolted from the frame. It needs several mods and adjustments so I will probably cut off the interior bottom plates and drop it through the body a few inches so that I can do some welding on top and add/remove tube.

I still plan to build a new frame for it. It will be fun plus make it WAY eaiser to fab up a custom suspension.

For the suspension.... I dont know yet. I am thinking front coilovers, but Im not sure on the rear yet. Who knows, I might just stick with leafs all the way around for now since they are cheap and simple.

Steering is going to be full hydro.

Brakes will be 1 ton hydroboost.

I want to put a sbc 350/700r4 in it which I found locally, but just last night I got a local line on a 360/727 from a Waggy, so that still up in the air.

I first step is going to be to decide on the motor/tranny and get that home. Then I plan to pull the body, stick the frame in the garage, and use it to start mocking stuff up. I dont want to dive into the frame until I know for sure what I want/need from it.

Its going to continue to be a slow process though. I always seem to have money and no time, or time and no money. At the moment, Im short on both... :eek:

Elliott

03-25-2011, 07:02 AM

Glad to see you keeping the Chero and that you are back on it!

orangecherokee

03-25-2011, 07:43 AM

Oh, and since we all like pics soooo much on this forum...

Here is how the Chief looks now:

NP205/ Klune-V

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/dmntxn77/75%20Chief/Klune%20205%20Install/P1030121.jpg

me wanty

Dmntxn77

03-25-2011, 07:53 AM

Glad to see you keeping the Chero and that you are back on it!

Thanks... Now that the summer is nearing, I will probably finally be making a trip down your way too. Sooooo, you might actually get that D60 delivered. :eek:

me wanty

Yep, its a thing of beauty isnt it! Those were two (of the VERY few) parts that I refused to sell when I was parting it out. Its too hard to pull together that much money for a shinny little chunk of aluminum and I knew that I probably wouldnt get away with it twice.

The only thing that I sold that I really regret are the tires. I still want Irocs, and another set of 42"s will darn near break the bank. :banghead:

Sambo

03-25-2011, 08:57 AM

robert you must be a really nice guy to do that for family i know i would,but hate to throw money away!
glad to see your going to do something with that chero again;)

orangecherokee

03-25-2011, 09:03 AM

Yep, its a thing of beauty isnt it! Those were two (of the VERY few) parts that I refused to sell when I was parting it out. Its too hard to pull together that much money for a shinny little chunk of aluminum and I knew that I probably wouldnt get away with it twice.

The only thing that I sold that I really regret are the tires. I still want Irocs, and another set of 42"s will darn near break the bank. :banghead:

look for a used set. that won't be too hard to swing. better than paying full price.

Dmntxn77

03-25-2011, 02:57 PM

robert you must be a really nice guy to do that for family i know i would,but hate to throw money away!
glad to see your going to do something with that chero again;)

I dont pat myself on the back for being nice through the whole deal because I was a bit less than nice with my lecture... Plus, I made it clear that she was not to ask me for money again.

I would like to think that most who could do what I did, would....

look for a used set. that won't be too hard to swing. better than paying full price.

Yeah, if the timing falls right thats probably the route I will take. Or, I might just start buying them one at a time. I wonder if my wife would notice $400 missing here and there or a growing stack of tires in the corner?? :p