Outboarding Springs on Front

[youngjeeper]

I need to outboard the springs on the front..I have an idea for the rear via Andrew..But I need some ideas for the front..Pics would be best. Even if someone has a picture of the front end with the bumper off with stock spring setup. My Jeep is 1900 miles away..I have a hard time looking at it. Thanks

[Desert Beast]

what size tires ya running? make sure they dont hit @ full lock.

as for hanging them, what about some generic hangars w/ some boxing to the side of the frame.

any particular reason your going to outboard them in the first place?

[4x4fEvEr]

yeah im getting ready to do this myself. im doing it because im running a 90's model ford kingpin dana 60 and the perch width is i think 3.5 inches wider than a 79 dana 60 or the stock dana 44's

[youngjeeper]

yeah im getting ready to do this myself. im doing it because im running a 90's model ford kingpin dana 60 and the perch width is i think 3.5 inches wider than a 79 dana 60 or the stock dana 44's

Bingo..I'll be running an 80s front 60. Gotta outboard those SOBs to fit it..

[Tad]

Guess you will need something like this...
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s80/tadsal/ttsfabworks/StuffIMake/SpringHangers.jpg
...but I know darn well you have the skills to make your own.

[4x4fEvEr]

yeah that stuff and some angle iron of sort to weld to the frame. i cant quite figure out how im gonna work around the steering box bolts?

[youngjeeper]

Guess you will need something like this...
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s80/tadsal/ttsfabworks/StuffIMake/SpringHangers.jpg
...but I know darn well you have the skills to make your own.

I like those..Yea, I could definetly make them..but Time is a HUGE issue here. I won't be around my Jeep till Xmas Break to work on this whole conversion. I'm hoping I'll be able to make some in solidworks and use the welding lab here. I just need to start finding measurements for everything and angles. I was thinking of adding a plate to the bottom of the frame..kind of like on the RB kit, that attaches to the bracket.

[Sambo]

80's ford are 36"on perch width btw,and dodge are 32,and chevys well everyone knows what they are :whistle:

[orangecherokee]

...and chevys well everyone knows what they are :whistle:

the bestest!!!:thumbsup:

[trickc]

Tad, I saw something in the picture and meant to ask, I noticed the spring hangers in the pics have a bead on the inside bend in the hangers, I assume this is a strength matter to keep them from bending side to side?

I'm getting ready to do a similar project and already have my box steel to make my hangers from. I'll be removing post mounts and outboarding/ drop mounts to run later model springs.

[rockjeep44]

It looks to me like the hangers are made from 3 pieces, welded and then the outside is ground down to make it look like a one piece unit that was made in a press break. That would explain the inside weld.

[Tad]

It looks to me like the hangers are made from 3 pieces, welded and then the outside is ground down to make it look like a one piece unit that was made in a press break. That would explain the inside weld.
That's correct Andrew. The grinding (it's actually just radiused with a high speed sander) is just to make them correct for front FSJ fitment purposes, nothing special, except they are 1/4" thick as opposed to the stock FSJ 3/16" thick front ones.

I assume this is a strength matter to keep them from bending side to side?
No, it's just to insure 100% penetration on the weldment and makes sure there is more than 1/4" of material there. If you have some spare 3.5" x .25 wall box tube, it's a perfect fit, it just real pricey these days and making them this way eliminates all that pesky cutting, grinding and drilling.

When I get back from NM next week I'll mock up an idea I have that would incorporate a top plate that would allow for outboarding without adding any upper material.