trails I'd like to do this year

[Ralph Rogers]

I'd like to do Minnie and Maggie, (might do on Tuesday as fambly wants to check out Silverton),
make it to the Buffalo Boy and maybe a re-do of Stony,
take the road from Hurricane/American (don't remember which pass but there's only the one road) that goes towards Silverton instead of Corkscrew,
hit Govenor's again and hike to the top mine, maybe Yankee afterwards,
Also like to do Imogene to check out the mines along the way, but maybe not over if Jenni doesn't want to,
rest is open.

Ralph

[bigun]

If I make it I want to do Engineers pass I did part of it back in 1976 in a 64, 2 wheel drive F100 and would like to see A. where we got to and B. do the whole trail

[Gambler68]

take the road from Hurricane/American (don't remember which pass but there's only the one road) that goes towards Silverton instead of Corkscrew,
hit Govenor's again and hike to the top mine, maybe Yankee... afterwards,

sounds nice! That top mine being the one we drove past in the back scree field of Governers? I'd like to hit that maybe the 2nd day and do an overnight at that clearing we saw before looping down to the entrance of governers. Any idea who's in charge of that area? BLM land maybe?

[Ralph Rogers]

The mine in the basin that we stopped below where that stream was coming down from. We passed just under it when you enter the basin. Virginius I believe is what it is called. Also the one on top in the center of the basin.
That scree field was cool, but I wouldn't want to hike to that mine through it. I believe that area is called Sydney basin??

As far as I can tell it's on forest land, unless it's patented. But I saw no signs that it was. The only topo's I've seen of that area were from 1955.
That would be a cool spot to camp.
Ralph

[RiverRat]

I would like to do Imogene and Black Bear (I think, it still seems a little scary though) and Poughkeepsie, Governor's and Yankee Boy would be good too. Bryan is supposed to contact someone from Creeper Jeepers to see if anyone wants to come out and run Black Bear with us. They nominated Black Bear for the BF Goodrich outstanding trails program and were selected last year... long story but our club is doing the same thing this year in Missouri, so we'd like to see what Creeper Jeepers did, etc. Also, Poughkeepsie was selected as an Outstanding Trail this year, not sure which club is associated with that nomination though. Anybody have a day in mind for the Imogene/ Black Bear trip? I think Wednesday might be good, right at the beginning before everyone is really tired. I guess Flint is talking about doing Ophir Tuesday on the way in, and we will probably be tagging along. I think it was Flint who also mentioned doing Engineers and Cinnamon Pass in a loop? I guess we should try to get up and out a little earlier this year....
Here's what I think I want to do:
Tuesday- Ophir, possibly something else depending on time
Wednesday- Imogene/Black Bear
Thursday and Friday- Some combination of Poughkeepsie, Cinnamon and Engineers, Yankee Boy and Governors

[Ralph Rogers]

Ryan, when are you going to be in there? I'll be at KOA on Sunday.
Ralph

[Gambler68]

The mine in the basin that we stopped below where that stream was coming down from. We passed just under it when you enter the basin. Virginius I believe is what it is called. Also the one on top in the center of the basin.
That scree field was cool, but I wouldn't want to hike to that mine through it. I believe that area is called Sydney basin??

As far as I can tell it's on forest land, unless it's patented. But I saw no signs that it was. The only topo's I've seen of that area were from 1955.
That would be a cool spot to camp.
Ralph
Oh okay, yeah I was thinking about the one in Sydney. That muddy baby jeep trail going up to it looks interesting..hopefully its still there. Not sure when I'm going up, prolly meet up at Flint and Kristas the day before leaving for Hooray and checking out the local runs near them, and follow everyone to the KOA. depends on gas $$ of course.

And yeah, I'm just gana camp there, and if a ranger shows up mad, I guess leave :) But I'd like to check with the ranger station in town and get a permit or whatever if applicable.

I know this year since I'm driving m'self, I'd like to take alot more time to stop and poke around. Third year, seen a buncha trails already, time to get pokey. :)

Beth: Yzergod (username) here on the board is the Prez of Creepers Jeepers, you can just send him a PM. They are going to be up on BlackBear during the weekend I think doing trail maint.

oh, and I want to conquer Corkscrew lockerless to see if I can do it, at some point.

[flatbackdragon]

just a reminder, if going UP Poughkeepsie, at least 1 vehicle should have a
locked diff and be the first jeep over the rock section to tug the non-locked jeeps over if necessary. Last year was the first time I did not make it over it without help.
Coming down from the intersection of Hurricane/California trails above Lake Como to the rock can be done without a locker easy enuf but the dirt section that avoids the rock is getting torn up more each yr.

[flatbackdragon]

ryan- the only trail a locker might/should be needed is the rock on PKeepsie, have run every trail up there without one.

[Gambler68]

ryan- the only trail a locker might/should be needed is the rock on PKeepsie, have run every trail up there without one.

Is it needed for steepness, or is it loose rock?

[Ralph Rogers]

Wanna take time to look around a little more this year myself. Bypassed a lot of cool looking places the last two years. I'm in like Flint. Errrr, not Flint - but Flint, errrrr, just colour me cool man.

I've also done all the trails the last two year open, including that icky trail in Sydney basin. Although I haven't gone over the rock at Poughkeepsie...yet.
Ralph

[flatbackdragon]

two sections of the rock (in lousy pix below w/kids bronco) right side there are a couple rocks which can hang you up if not lifted and a bit steep for a short bit, believe that is where Jamie broke his spring.
Center section (where bronco is) is torn up more where rocks come together and is somewhat washed out at the bottom of the rock so trying to climb up the rock on the left side your tires go into the washout, bumper hits dirt/rocks and you loose momentum and traction, so locker there is almost needed. Have climbed both in the crack (where I scratched Draco last yr) and just to the left up the rock before with no problems all the yrs we've gone there before, heck even did it with our 86 Bronco II yrs ago, but alas its been torn up more each yr. Even did the section to the right before w/o locker but time has taken its toll on it too.

the dirt section to the left of the rock is not easy to get up, even way back when it first was created, it now it almost 2-4 ft. deeper than this old photo. Coming down is fun and still a challenge as it rocks you side to side, have to avoid a big rock or two and hard braking will make you slide.

other than that its easy!

[fulsizjeep]

Is it needed for steepness, or is it loose rock?

Yes and Yes. All that sure, not to mention standing carburators up on thier sides at around 12,000 feet. :D

[SVO42]

I think Poughkeepsie is calling my name!!! :bluelaugh: :fsj: Sounds like the Exploder is all set: 33s, Lock Right in the rear, EFI. :drivin:

I've talked a bit to yzergod about the trip. I was planning on contacting him closer to the event to set up a run over Black Bear with him.

Anyone know what club is associated with Poughkeepsie this year?

[will e]

Kenny and I did black bear last year. It is a great trail with great views and some great spots to stop. (Did I mention it is great). It is not technically challenging and the only 'tricky' part is the switchbacks. There you just have to be careful and try to do you multi point turns without hangin your butt end over the side.

I would suggest a less intense trail on Wednesday, kind of a shake out trial run. With 20+ FSJ joining there are bound to be some problems that may crop up with some trucks. Black Bear is not a good place to find out your brakes are giving you troubles or that your carb stalls going downhill at higher altitiudes. :)

[Ralph Rogers]

20+ FSJ's on a single run would be a disaster, ecologically that is.
I think we should break it up to smaller groups and do different runs on different days.
Ralph

[grand_wag_85]

Imogene:D

[fulsizjeep]

I think we should break it up to smaller groups and do different runs on different days.Yes, more than 10 or 12 in a group and you are challenging some scientific laws I very vaguely understand.


For those who would like to ride something low on the challenge list the first day (Wednesday), may we recommend Minnie and Maggie Gulch. If you have vapor lock potential, it will show up there and the trail is pretty much 2 track all the way up. The alpine meadows up there are pretty sweet too.


on another note: We have had more precipitation this Spring than since I have been here 6 years, Krista 8. Good chance we will have abundant flower bloomage.

[will e]

on another note: We have had more precipitation this Spring than since I have been here 6 years, Krista 8. Good chance we will have abundant flower bloomage.

That's great! I thought the flowers were abundant last year, you mean it can get better????

[ne715]

It would be nice for us out-of-staters if maybe a few of the Colorado folk could put a rough schedule together.

Such as:

Tuesday: Trail: xyz
Leaving at approximate time: 0600
Meeting at: Flint's Site

Trail: abc
Leaving at approximate time: 0700
Meeting at site: 46A or someplace in town.

and so on for the rest of the week, then trail planning would be a little more organized and folks could plan on which trails they would like to do. I missed Yankee Boy last year, don't know where I was, but I missed it.

Just a suggestion.
Thanks for all the planning that already goes into this.
Pam

[bigun]

Last years Yankee boy run was an almost spur of the moment if I remember right. Flint had a memorial to do there and the rest of us went along for support!

[fulsizjeep]

might I recommend this for starters - it offers two choices each day
http://frontier.net/%7Emystkblu/07ouray/trails.gif

[bigun]

ooops, I'll be right back
:confused::confused::whistle::whistle::hide:

[fulsizjeep]

I was gonna post that table and realized it don't work too well in tabular method, so used an image instead. Goofy, I know... :p

[bigun]

The only definate I see for me is the Alpine loop! I am open to everything else

[Mark Wilde]

Since this is my first Invasion (or any variation thereof) I will delineate to the experts. Black Bear Road kind of skeers me :eek: but I've always wanted to 'wheel the road that C. W. McCall sang about! :drivin:

[bigun]

Since this is my first Invasion (or any variation thereof) I will delineate to the experts. Black Bear Road kind of skeers me :eek: but I've always wanted to 'wheel the road that C. W. McCall sang about! :drivin:
http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/blkbear.html

[grand_wag_85]

http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/blkbear.html

Who's red Jeep truck was that?

[Jeepstress]

Who's red Jeep truck was that?

There are a number of J-truck tour rigs at the Ouray jeep tour companies.

[grand_wag_85]

There are a number of J-truck tour rigs at the Ouray jeep tour companies.

Cool!:cool:

[fulsizjeep]

heck yeah, yeller ones too...

http://frontier.net/%7Emystkblu/06ouray/4yrsago/images/26_jpg.jpg

http://frontier.net/%7Emystkblu/06ouray/4yrsago/images/13_jpg.jpg

http://frontier.net/%7Emystkblu/06ouray/4yrsago/images/40_jpg.jpg

:D

[Heimeken]

I'd like to do something different this time if possible. On Thursday I'd like to go up Engineer and go accross to Lake City. Then depending on who tags along, go down towards Crede and come back on the lost trail or take the highway loop back to Montrose. This is a very long day.... so I"ll have to limit the agave intake the night before :eek:

Friday... i"ll decide Thursday night:thumbsup: Which is what usually happens anyway...

[grand_wag_85]

Flint-Was that yellow one a Cherokee in a former life?

[RiverRat]

I think Bryan and I are in agreement, our definite to-do list includes Poughkeepsie, Black Bear, and Imogene. I'm open to suggestions besides that. I would like to do Black Bear and Imogene on Thursday but I can be flexible. It would be nice to do Governor's and Yankee Boy one day too. Just too many to choose from!

[RiverRat]

Uh-oh, now my brain is starting to go into overfunctioning mode. Happens a lot before big events. I'll try to keep this short, right now my dilemma is planning related as far as groups and trails to run, etc. Seems like planning too much is never a popular thing, and usually a big pain in the butt, but it seems like the group this year is going to be large enough that some sort of planning may be in order? Who wants to do what, when, and how many rigs is a reasonable number for a group? That sort of thing. Last year it was hard enough to decide what time we were leaving camp! I'm just as guilty as the next person there! But I'll leave it alone. Maybe we can just have campfire discussions about the next day's groups and trails... if we will be able to remember it the next day that is!:alc: Hey, we're going to need lots of wood, and some sort of rectangle fire, or double row of chairs, or something this year with all these people! At least we can make the argument that it doesn't matter how loud we are, since we're pretty much taking up the entire back end of the campground :D.

[Gambler68]

Although it will mean missing one night of KOA shennanigans, I want to do Yankee Boy AND Governers, and end in Governers, and camp out that night there. Anyones welcome to join, but I dunno if it's 'allowed' (and don't care really). There's a secluded campsite that would be good for maybe up to 3 rigs. There's an 'entrance' to it right before entering Governers at the top, but its narrow, we came round the backway, which is a nice way to end Governers anyways. Shoot, may just spend the day there in the back basin with the dog.

[RiverRat]

I thought about camping away from KOA, overall seems like more hassle though. I really like the idea, if it were anything other than the Invasion I would never stay at KOA or any other campground of that nature. Normally I'm all about getting as far away from civilization (and RVs!) as possible. In this case I think we're grounded at KOA for the evenings and nights. Kind of fun to be with the group, and easier to sleep in a bit before the morning departures. Just Bryan and me though, I'd vote for backcountry any day (or night). We are staying in a slightly more remote area in Glacier. Grizzly bears have me a little worried, gonna keep a fire, not cook anything, and try to smell like nothing. And make noise ;). Besides, if we have trouble there's always a big box or 2 of shirts to hide under!

[Gambler68]

I'm bringing my BB gun. I should be safe up there ;) :D

[Gambler68]

Just FYI: I just called the Ouray BLM and asked if camping was allowed up there, they said YES, and NO PERMIT required. So..groovy. :)

and found this listing of trails, may be worth a printout and toss in your glovebox:

Near Durango

Kennebec Pass
Take 160W, 11 miles to Hesperus. Turn right onto La Plata Canyon Road. It's 16 miles from there to the top of the pass; the last 5 miles require 4-wheel drive. It's a moderately difficult route beginning at 8,600ft, and terminates at 11,880 ft. This drive offers scenic views of the La Plata Mountains and various waterfalls. You'll also see remnants of old mining towns along the way.
Bolam Pass/Hermosa Park Road
Travel north out of Durango on Highway 550 for about 28 miles. Your turn is just after Durango Mountain Resort. Turn left at the Forest Service sign labeled "Hermosa Park Rd." This road takes you behind the ski resort and onto Sig Creek Campground. Continue west on this road, which follows Hermosa Creek and eventually ends near the town of Rico.
Lime Creek Road
Travel north out of Durango on Highway 550 for about 27 miles. Lime Creek Road will be on your right after you pass Cascade Village. This route offers great views of Lime Creek and the surrounding San Juan Mountains.
Miller Mountain
Take Florida Rd. (County Rd. 240) northeast out of Durango for approximately 16 miles to Lemon Reservoir. You can access Miller Mountain by continuing north on the dirt road above the reservoir.
Near Silverton

Ophir Pass
Take 550N out of Silverton for 4.5 miles. Turn left onto Ophir Pass Road (FS679). This is the easiest pass connecting Silverton and Telluride. This route was a toll road built by Otto Mears in 1881. It offers great views of Mt. Wilson, Wilson Peak, El Diente Peak and Ophir Valley.
(Difficulty: Easy-Medium)
Stony Pass
Travel northeast out of Silverton on Colorado 110 to Howardsville. Turn right at Howardsville and up Cunningham Gulch. Drive about 2 miles and look for Stony Pass Rd. on the left. The summit of the pass is in another 3 miles. This road was built as a supply route between Silverton and the San Luis Valley. The route passes the headwaters of the Rio Grande, crosses the Continental Divide, and offers spectacular views of the San Juan Mountains. (Difficulty: Easy-Hard)
Cunningham Gulch
Travel northeast out of Silverton on Colorado 110 for about 10 miles. This road offers access to Cunningham Gulch, Minnie Gulch, Maggie Gulch; the sites of old mining operations.
(Difficulty: Easy)
The Alpine Loop Backcountry Byway
(Engineer & Cinnamon Passes)
From Silverton, head east on Colorado 110 for 12.4 miles to Animas Forks ghost town. From here you can take either Engineer or Cinnamon Pass. The loop connects Silverton with Ouray and Lake City. This route offers many historic sites including Animas Forks, Mineral Point, Rose's Cabin and Sherman.
Distance from Silverton to Lake City via Cinnamon Pass: 44 miles
Distance from Silverton to Lake City via Engineer Pass: 37 miles
(Difficulty: Easy-Medium)
Near Ouray

Imogene Pass
Turn onto Camp Bird Rd. (County Rd. 361) just south of Ouray. You will pass the Camp Bird Mine on the left. The road forks in less then 2 miles. Turn left for Imogene Pass. This route connects Ouray and Telluride. It passes historic sites such as the abandoned Tomboy Mine and Fort Peabody, a former guard station during the labor-management conflicts at the turn of the century.
(Difficulty: Easy-Medium)
Yankee Boy Basin/Governor Basin
Turn onto Camp Bird Rd. (County Rd. 361), just south of Ouray. You will pass the Camp Bird Mine on the left. The road forks in less then 2 miles. Stay to the right and proceed past Sneffels, an old town site. Another fork will appear. Go left here for Governor Basin. Stay on the main road for Yankee Boy Basin.
Black Bear Pass
NOTE: This pass is extremely difficult; it is only recommended for very experienced four-wheelers. Take 550N out of Silverton. At the summit of Red Mountain Pass (just south of Ouray), turn left (west) onto Black Bear Road. This is a one-way route that ends near Bridal Veil Falls in Telluride.

[fulsizjeep]

Flint-Was that yellow one a Cherokee in a former life?

YES, a wide track Cherk. :cool:

[fulsizjeep]

Ouray Jeep Trails status:
http://www.ouraycolorado.com/Jeep+Road+Conditions

I was also told that as of today, the only pass closed going out of Ouray is Imogene. I confirmed with the VC that Black Bear Pass, California Gulch, Engineer Pass are open even though the web site indicates they are closed.


We'll be rolling with some FJs while we are there too: The First Annual 2007 FJ Cruiser Summit will be held July 12th-15th and will mark the first national event for all FJ Cruiser owners. The Summit will include three skill level trail runs every day, from near-beginner to advanced. Expect FJ Cruiser Forum (http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/) vendor booths and participation, special guests, a raffle or two, and plenty of good times had by all. All are welcome - families, singles - there is no exclusion for this event.

[uglyjeepling]

We'll be rolling with some FJs while we are there too: The First Annual 2007 FJ Cruiser Summit will be held July 12th-15th and will mark the first national event for all FJ Cruiser owners. The Summit will include three skill level trail runs every day, from near-beginner to advanced. Expect FJ Cruiser Forum (http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/) vendor booths and participation, special guests, a raffle or two, and plenty of good times had by all. All are welcome - families, singles - there is no exclusion for this event.

Hmm this can be good or bad. Is it going to be ridiculously crowded out there making us go to trail we may not of wanted to before. Or not be able to sit around at some spots because of it being full. What do you think? Its not gonna make a diff. I am still comin, but just so I am prepared to do far away trails or something.

[fulsizjeep]

Every year we deal with traffic. It depends on how big the FJ Summit is. In 2003, we were over run by GOX (gathering of Xterras) at KOA but did not see that much of them on the trails.

Edit: Since we started running the trails on Wed, Thu & Fri beginning in 05, we have seen less traffic on the trails since our FSJ Invasion doesn't run over the weekend. We do leave Saturday open for trail rides too in case anyone missed that point. It is just not part of the 3 days we plan for. I am not too concerned with a bunch of FJs myself... ;) ...as long as they don't camp next to us and party all night like the OBX dweebs.

[Ralph Rogers]

What!!!! Party all night!! How dare they!!
So these folks will be at KOA?
Ralph

[Ralph Rogers]

I'd also like to do Picayune, or whatever that's called.

Ralph

[fulsizjeep]

So these folks will be at KOA?I don't know.

I'd also like to do Picayune, or whatever that's called.I think we ran this and Placer last year on Saturday (unplanned). This is the first left you come to going to CA Gulch from Animas Forks. It takes you through Placer and back down to the road TO Animas Forks via Picayne. Some info indicates the name is Picayune, but most references call it Picayne. It is a nice drive with great vistas and you usually see herds of sheep up there too.

[RiverRat]

I am not too concerned with a bunch of FJs myself... ;) ...as long as they don't camp next to us and party all night like the OBX dweebs.

Oh, man can you just see poor Joe trying to run back and forth between two big groups of 4x4 enthusiasts trying to tell us to keep it down all night? :lol:

[Ralph Rogers]

It's all fun and games until he has a ***** hemorrhage and has a heart attack.

Ralph

[Gambler68]

fixed that up for ya :D

It's all fun and games after he has a ***** hemorrhage and has a heart attack.

[flatbackdragon]

going thru the FJ site, as of 6-13 they have 150+ vehicles w/350+ peoples, not including dogs, they are to be there 12th-15th.
It is an organized run w/insurance etc. and new registers will pay $100 per
vehicle AND $20 per passenger and a lot of them are concerned about gas prices too, some will be in KOA others in motels or tenting wherever.
It may be a little crowded

[fulsizjeep]

so what yer saying Phil, it will be crowded... :cool: thanks for looking into it deeper

It could be there will be 30 year old FSJs in a throw down against new FJs. :D

[RiverRat]

going thru the FJ site, as of 6-13 they have 150+ vehicles w/350+ peoples, not including dogs, they are to be there 12th-15th.
It is an organized run w/insurance etc. and new registers will pay $100 per
vehicle AND $20 per passenger and a lot of them are concerned about gas prices too, some will be in KOA others in motels or tenting wherever.
It may be a little crowded

OOOF :eek:

[Gambler68]

We're heavier. Plastic flies pretty well too.

[ColeTrickle]

they don't camp next to us and party all night like the OBX dweebs.

OBX? Dweebs? LOL! Now what does OBX stand for?

And...FSJ's have the right of way!:D

[fulsizjeep]

OBX? Dweebs? LOL! Now what does OBX stand for?

And...FSJ's have the right of way!:D
I musta had duh OBX on da brain der bud. That is abbreviation for Outer Banks, NC.

It is GOX, GOX, GOX Dweebs from 2003... I had to hold Krista down to keep her from coming out of the tent at 1:30 am to kick some punk butt. They talked big all night about Black Bear blah blah blah but we didn't see much of them on the mountains. :grumble:

And...yer right, I jus fergot...

[will e]

First off, three levels? Where are they going to find 'Advanced' out there?
Second, I think it is cool. I hope we hook up with them some and they can see how the 30 year old iron gets it done. Maybe we will get some of them to convert? I like the FJ's and I hear they are pretty good rigs. At least it isn't a H2 convention....
Third, Bet we break down more.....

[will e]

oh yeah, and I am glad we are not that 'organized'. Sounds like a lot of work.

[uglyjeepling]

FJ's are FSJ's without the 'S' which stands for Size and everyone knows that Size matters. :p

[fulsizjeep]

Getting beyond the whole FJ thang... I drafted this up a while back on page 2 and never got any feedback. So I throw it out again for consideration. We are always open to change our plans and stay as unorganized as we want to. Pam asked if one of the CFSJA folks could offer a plan and this is it so far. If you think this is bunk, I won't take it personal... ;)

might I recommend this for starters - it offers two choices each day
http://frontier.net/%7Emystkblu/07ouray/trails.gif

[uglyjeepling]

BUNK!!! Just kidding.

I guess you are skerd of Corkscrew now (only an optional). I can understand that from what we saw.

Is Imogene going to be open you think, sure hope so. Money shot on top. ;)

[Gambler68]

Is Imogene going to be open you think, sure hope so. Money shot on top. ;)

warn me so I can look away :D

That was so cool up there last year, Flint, yourself, Jason and I. The next two hours kinda sucked though :rolleyes:

[BRUTUS]

warn me so I can look away :D

That was so cool up there last year, Flint, yourself, Jason and I. The next two hours kinda sucked though :rolleyes:

Oh contraire! That was the best part... we were living on the edge so as to not take up too much room! :D

[fulsizjeep]

BUNK!!! Just kidding.

I guess you are skerd of Corkscrew now (only an optional). I can understand that from what we saw.

Is Imogene going to be open you think, sure hope so. Money shot on top. ;):cool: Last year was a HOOT! fer sure... We almost died up there! :eek:

At the rate of melt here lately I would expect Imogene to be open by Invasion time.

Oh contraire! That was the best part... we were living on the edge so as to not take up too much room! :D YEEHAW!!! :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

Iffin iz not, we're opening it :D

:fsj:

[grand_wag_85]

YES, a wide track Cherk. :cool:
I knew it!:D

[flatbackdragon]

looks like 186 FJ's so far, alot will be in KOA, amphitheater or motels.
Will keep checking their site for runs, they haven't posted yet.

[Gilgar]

I would like to do Imogene, Black Bear, and Poughkeepsie for sure. As long as I get those in, I will be happy with any of the other trails that I can go on.

[grand_wag_85]

looks like 186 FJ's so far, alot will be in KOA, amphitheater or motels.
Will keep checking their site for runs, they haven't posted yet.

For a second I thought I saw FSJ's:o

[flatbackdragon]

ah....

[RiverRat]

ah....


Hmm. Is that recent? Well there's still 3 weeks to go...

[fulsizjeep]

Hmm. Is that recent? Well there's still 3 weeks to go...

HA HA HA, that there is funny Phil! Not very recent tho... But a shovel could still come in handy. Someone in our crew left one at Poughkeepsie in 05. Why?

BECAUSE FSJs were used to open that trail and someone left it behind! :thumbsup: Now who was that...

So, there is info on the net about Jeep trails. I was told last week the only trail accessable from Ouray that was still closed at that time was Imogene. With the weather we have had the past week, it could be open.

This will give you general trail info:
http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/4X4.html

This page keeps going up and down, so good luck with the link:
http://www.ouraycolorado.com/Jeep+Road+Conditions
It shows Imogene as the only closed trail too...

[Jeepstress]

looks like 186 FJ's so far, alot will be in KOA, amphitheater or motels.
Will keep checking their site for runs, they haven't posted yet.

Are we talking fugly new FJs, or classic old Cruisers? If its the classic old cruisers I'd be happy. I love those old FJs.

[bigun]

When I went through 2 weeks ago there sure looked like a lot of snow up on top of the mountains still

[flatbackdragon]

we talking fugly new FJ's

[Jeepstress]

we talking fugly new FJ's

:grumble:

Oh well............. Do they have a trail schedule? We should make sure our paths don't cross up in the hills. Or maybe we should........... :bluelaugh:

[flatbackdragon]

as of now they do not have a trail listing...
they have been told some rules they must follow (yeah right as if thats going to happen):

"As a condition of our permits and for safety reasons we will be limited to 8 vehicles per group per the National Forest Service and BLM. This is a safety precaution to facilitate backing to turnouts for on coming traffic. The good news is we are permitted to do staggered starts with interval between. This is an important rule which comes down from their vast experience with event in this area. NFS are thrilled we are coming and quite supportive of our efforts.

The NSF has also restricted a couple of areas for guided trail rides, but have also indicated these are still open to the public and small groups can still travel them. The only reason for any restrictions is safety."

I had warned them of the rock obstacle on Poughkeepsie and the fear factor of dropping off BlackBear.

[Jeepstress]

I'd like to see a FJ try Poughkeepsie!

[flatbackdragon]

you may get the chance to
some of these peoples rigs are lifted/locked etc....

[Jeepstress]

I don't care how lifted and locked they are. Doesn't make 'em any less fugly. :D

[flatbackdragon]

I don't care how lifted and locked they are. Doesn't make 'em any less fugly. :D

dated a girl like that once way back in high school:cool:
what made it easier to be around her was that her daddy owned the local chrysler/dodge/plymouth dealership and we had a new hot car every weekend (roadrunner etc.)

[BRUTUS]

dated a girl like that once way back in high school:cool:
what made it easier to be around her was that her daddy owned the local chrysler/dodge/plymouth dealership and we had a new hot car every weekend (roadrunner etc.)

I saw a bunch of lifted and locked girls in Sacramento last week! :lol:

A friend of mine took a stock F150 up the Telluride side of Imogene and said he got to the mine before there was a "trail closed" sign. He then drove back to To-hell-u-ride and took the highway to Ouray and tried it from the Ouray side. He tracked both sides with GPS and said there was only 4 miles of difference between the ends of both the trails. That was two weeks ago.

He also said that Black bear was closed because it was pretty soggy. Of course he was also told that Imogene was open... so who knows.

[fulsizjeep]

so, I heard Black Bear was open... hmmm...
We are seeing 100-103 temps the last few days here.
We know snow is melting!
:fsj:

[flatbackdragon]

snow melting...snow falling
Tues 26th GJ paper reports canoeist found after falling out of canoe Sun in San Miguel river "that was swift and cold because it had SNOWED the day before" which would be LAST SATURDAY!
Just another typical day in Colorado.

let's see...
bring shovel..
bring heavy coat or leather jacket...

[grand_wag_85]

And sleds:D

[Ralph Rogers]

Geeeez, Flint. 100 - 103?? :eek: Heck, it's only been 106 at my place here!! I thought you lived in cool Colorado.:rolleyes:
I hope you have AC in your yard if we be camping out.:thumbsup:
I hope the week we be in Ouray is nice like the last two years.:D

Ralph

[flatbackdragon]

Ouray forecast thru next week- highs in low 80's and low 50's at night..

[Jeepstress]

let's see...
bring shovel..
bring heavy coat or leather jacket...
Remember to put said shovel back in jeep. :p

[flatbackdragon]

hardee har har

[Jeepstress]

hardee har har

:D You know you love me! :D

[fulsizjeep]

Geeeez, Flint. 100 - 103?? :eek: Heck, it's only been 106 at my place here!! I thought you lived in cool Colorado.:rolleyes:
I hope you have AC in your yard if we be camping out.:thumbsup:
I hope the week we be in Ouray is nice like the last two years.:D

Ralph

Well, are on the edge of the desert with humidity hovering below 10% during the day. The AC comes on at sunset and goes off 2 hours after sunrise. ;) The gnats have been bad from here down to 5200 feet in the canyons and that may turn into a bigger issue than the heat if they don't move on soon. They usually do by July. June is gnat month here. We are not up in the ponderosa's like the other place. It is pinion/juniper here and about 600 feet lower elevation. We are about to go to extreme fire conditions in the area. May have restrictions on back country camp fires soon. The grasses this year are over knee deep in some places and will make flash fuel for ground cover start ups.

:p ==> Ouray should be Nice <== :D

Jury is still out on the monsoons, some say 2 weeks some say longer. Last year the monsoon season was wetter than the previous few years. That condition can change fire situations in areas. I ain't no weather man but our house thermometer has been bouncing between about 50 and just over 100 every day for a week. It was 100.9 yesterday, whew...

[flatbackdragon]

last count for the "FJ" group
Numbers of People:
Drivers:179
Passengers: 155
Children: 62
Total Number of people coming: 396

TIME FOR WAR NOW I GUESS, someone posted on their site:

"You know what this Summit needs? ...The perfect cheer!"

"J-E-E-P,
your 4xtoy can't hang with me,
you ugly (whut whut)
you ugly!"

maybe I won't put a grill on, Jon gave me his 83 grill but it mounts a bit dif and will have to trim where hood release goes.

[Gambler68]

TIME FOR WAR NOW I GUESS, someone posted on their site:

"You know what this Summit needs? ...The perfect cheer!"

"J-E-E-P,
your 4xtoy can't hang with me,
you ugly (whut whut)
you ugly!"



oh, it's ON! :mad:

[Jeepstress]

last count for the "FJ" group
Numbers of People:
Drivers:179
Passengers: 155
Children: 62
Total Number of people coming: 396

TIME FOR WAR NOW I GUESS, someone posted on their site:

"You know what this Summit needs? ...The perfect cheer!"

"J-E-E-P,
your 4xtoy can't hang with me,
you ugly (whut whut)
you ugly!"

maybe I won't put a grill on, Jon gave me his 83 grill but it mounts a bit dif and will have to trim where hood release goes.

Those rat bastards! Do they even know what an FSJ is or do they think we are baby jeeps?

Jason! You FSJ Den Mother humbly requests that you leave that grill off of Brutus so he has that evil toothy look. And go get an RC FJ and hang it off of a tooth so it looks like he's snacking on it! :bluelaugh:

[turtlejoe]

"Jeep Trail Only - All (new) FJ's will be Winched"

"FJ Recovery Vehicle"

I'd like to see how many of them are coming to Ouray when THEIR rigs are 15-30+ years old!!:bluelaugh:

[Ralph Rogers]

Do we need Colorado hunting licenses to deal with this? Or are they just considered nuisance varmits. No, seriously.


Can't we all just get along?:rolleyes:

Ralph

[will e]

Those rat bastards! Do they even know what an FSJ is or do they think we are baby jeeps?

Jason! You FSJ Den Mother humbly requests that you leave that grill off of Brutus so he has that evil toothy look. And go get an RC FJ and hang it off of a tooth so it looks like he's snacking on it! :bluelaugh:

With almost 400 people there are bound to be a few schmucks in the group. Ignore them. I am sure they run the entire range of enthusists from the guy who plunked $0 down, took a 72 month loan and the only mod was a charger for his cell phone -- all the way to hard core folks who do their own mods and only got 10 miles on the truck before they started pulling stuff off and modifying. (and the schmucks could be in either group). I will hang with the cool folks and ignore the smucks (and then feel bad for the rest of the FJ folks who are stuck with them).

I will run my jeep toe to toe with most any FJ out there. :)

And I repeat. Thank goodness it isn't a Hummer convention

[Jeepstress]

You're right. There are gonna be good guys and bad guys. Heck, we have our share of those with the IFSJA. I'm just funnin' with the rat bastard comment, but I still like my idea for Brutus. :D

[flatbackdragon]

"Jeep Trail Only - All (new) FJ's will be Winched"

am going up there this weekend, may have to rig up some signs real quick for placement!

[will e]

You're right. There are gonna be good guys and bad guys. Heck, we have our share of those with the IFSJA. I'm just funnin' with the rat bastard comment, but I still like my idea for Brutus. :D

I know you are just funnin', didn't mean to single out your post. I will tease of few of them if they are the type that can laugh along with us. If they are a jerk I will just ignore them. If they are Wheel'n I will show them my truck can keep up with theirs and make them wonder why they spent so much money.... :)

[Ralph Rogers]

You're right Mike. Shucks.
We need to be the bigger people here and love them for who they are. Love the sinner, hate the sin and all. Embrace them as fellow enthusiasts enjoying the mountians. Go to their web-site and welcome them with open arms. And hugs.
Everybody put your hand to your monitor. Feeeeeeel the love. Think happy thoughts and will that love through the phone lines to their web-site. Maybe even sing kumbaya and all that.
Maybe some of them drink tequila too.:thumbsup:

Think about it Jason, that'd be the group with the single women!!
Peace out
Ralph

[will e]

Think about it Jason, that'd be the group with the single women!!
Peace out
Ralph

Single women with money! (or at least good credit).

[SVO42]

I'd love to start talking smack about the FJ peeps, but what room do I have to talk going to an FSJ event in an Exploder? :hide:

[flatbackdragon]

because you are part of the family.

[Jeepstress]

Perfect Phil! You want for me to run some off and laminate them? :bluelaugh:

[Gambler68]

I think you should lean the text the other way, and post them on the right side of the trails, so they veer off the road when trying to read vs into oncoming traffic :D

[flatbackdragon]

well pointing it that way at the Po'keepsie trailhead, they'll take Engineer!
point well taken tho sir.
Is there anything else I can do to MAKE YOU HAPPY???!!!


I can print and lam them Krista no prob
in between times I'm cooling off trying to get these broken t-stat bolts out.

[Jeepstress]

Gald to help if you need, Phil! Maybe I need to work up some faux FJ Recovery Vehicle Stickers for our rigs............?? hehehe:cool:

[Gambler68]

Well..it was my birthday tuesday, you can make me a cake for the weekend :P

[fulsizjeep]

dangit... Happy Birthday Bro Ryan! :cool:

I am so done with this place and wanna be in the mountains. Broke Jeeps, lame cat, lost a bird, freakin network at the park went down while I was 50 miles away at the helibase today. Went back and stayed until 7:30 making a temp fix (like a FSJ?) and will finish with perm fix tomorrow. Hoah boy, tires would not come off the Waggy to beat hell for 2 days of PB blaster and kicking, 2x4 cheater stick (busted), loose lugs and bang it against rocks and stumps in low range. Sheesh... This FSJ needs some attention and it may be a bullet... OH, OH, OH, and the shower head and threaded end of pipe fell off takin a shower this morning before I got rinsed off. Bet yer butt that thing is working and thoroughly tested now. Where was I? Then it was only $10 to pay some young feller at the Conoco to knock them front wheels off with a mallet. The mag chloride had caused electrolosis and glued the alum and steel. I must be getting old cause I could not budge it. Did get the rotors turned, new seals, pads, ujoint press and a set of driveline joints this afternoon. I am going above the treeline Saturday. so be it. in low range. with new brakes. with a 401. I am living the Dream. yup. :thumbsup:

[RiverRat]

dangit... Happy Birthday Bro Ryan! :cool:

I am so done with this place and wanna be in the mountains. Broke Jeeps, lame cat, lost a bird, freakin network at the park went down while I was 50 miles away at the helibase today. Went back and stayed until 7:30 making a temp fix (like a FSJ?) and will finish with perm fix tomorrow. Hoah boy, tires would not come off the Waggy to beat hell for 2 days of PB blaster and kicking, 2x4 cheater stick (busted), loose lugs and bang it against rocks and stumps in low range. Sheesh... This FSJ needs some attention and it may be a bullet... OH, OH, OH, and the shower head and threaded end of pipe fell off takin a shower this morning before I got rinsed off. Bet yer butt that thing is working and thoroughly tested now. Where was I? Then it was only $10 to pay some young feller at the Conoco to knock them front wheels off with a mallet. The mag chloride had caused electrolosis and glued the alum and steel. I must be getting old cause I could not budge it. Did get the rotors turned, new seals, pads, ujoint press and a set of driveline joints this afternoon. I am going above the treeline Saturday. so be it. in low range. with new brakes. with a 401. I am living the Dream. yup. :thumbsup:

Geez. I'm tellin you July has got to be better than June, or I don't know what. Things just don't want to be right this month. Lots of bad stuff this month, the worst which is not mentioned here because I can't even try to make light of it. But at least we're all getting stuff done! We'll be outta here in just about 40 more hours!!

[HOOT]

Geez. I'm tellin you July has got to be better than June, or I don't know what. Things just don't want to be right this month. Lots of bad stuff this month, the worst which is not mentioned here because I can't even try to make light of it. But at least we're all getting stuff done! We'll be outta here in just about 40 more hours!!

Be safe out there. CYA in the mountains or possibly Utah.

I'm scheduled for takeoff in 6 days. Screw the bad Karma here in KY.

[Jeepstress]

Safe Trips to everyone hitting the road. I'll make you a cake Ryan, if'n you really want one. Or I could just stick a candle on a bottle of Jeiger/tequila/boozy beverage of your choice for ya! :)

We've had such rotten juju here at the farm that I am ready to call in a Shaman and get the whole place smudged and blessed! :(

[flatbackdragon]

Well..it was my birthday tuesday, you can make me a cake for the weekend :P

u will have to settle for some cupcakes with candles bro...
it's your birthday and you been in CO five yrs?, double celebration.

Will still make the trip to Ironton even if I don't get the t-stat bolts out/replaced, will tow camper up with GC tonight or fri a.m. and Sue will bring her 2000 Toy Tacoma DHL pickup (yeah I know don't start on me!) and we'll take shell off and wheel it for the weekend. Finish work on jeep next week if have to. 16" elec fan don't go into hole in front, hmmm may have to replace the belt driven with it, need to insulate fuel lines somehow.
All the non-work I haven't had to do to this ol thing is coming back to haunt me, needed to buy the 79 up in Wheaton, it looks(ed) just like my old one, so much time so little $$$.

[Gambler68]

Mercury Retrograde!

Thanks guys! I like chocolate and rum. :D

Safe tripz to everyone hitting the highway!

[Ralph Rogers]

Safe trips all.

Happy b-day.

Smoke some ceder around the farm.

Hoot, stay off the motorcycle trails this year will ya??

Ralph

[will e]

I said it in the other thread but will repeat it here. I know we are just having some fun with the FJ's but....

I am not going to wheel with anyone who is tossing the first insult volley's at the FJ club. This includes cards, bumper stickers, shirts or whatever. Even if it is meant in good fun. They might not get the joke.

[Ralph Rogers]

What about privately? You know, something like a FJ driving up the crack of your underwear. I wouldn't expect you to show that to just anyone ya know.

Ralph

[RiverRat]

I said it in the other thread but will repeat it here. I know we are just having some fun with the FJ's but....

I am not going to wheel with anyone who is tossing the first insult volley's at the FJ club. This includes cards, bumper stickers, shirts or whatever. Even if it is meant in good fun. They might not get the joke.

I'm pretty sure nobody is really serious. It's one thing to make fun on the boards and another one entirely to behave badly in person. But I'm just speaking for myself. Another subject, I guess we should have a birthday party in Ouray with all the recent birthdays. Bryan just turned the big 3-0 Monday. :thumbsup:

[Gambler68]

I'm pretty sure nobody is really serious. It's one thing to make fun on the boards and another one entirely to behave badly in person. But I'm just speaking for myself. Another subject, I guess we should have a birthday party in Ouray with all the recent birthdays. Bryan just turned the big 3-0 Monday. :thumbsup:

Cancers RULE! :thumbsup: I was tuesday :) Big three-three.

Ok..we'll be the bigger 4x4'ers..since we are by default :D, but I'm gana have my stuff ready just in case :D

[flatbackdragon]

Cancers RULE!

hopefully not lung, breast,testicular, stomach,brain....
whatever it's hot, I'm on my way to Ironton for the weekend...

[uglyjeepling]

Good luck all. Drive safe and watch out for all the crazies!

Now I gotta lots of work to do. My girls had to start riding the bike to work. :D No more time had to take it apart. Nothing but upgrades, nothin to show stop.