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I have been using axle straps to haul with. This year is the last year for this set that I'm now using. So which is best for securing FS Jeeps loaded on a trailer?
A) Axle straps and ratchet straps.
B) Axle straps and chains.
C) Chains only.
D) Wheel Web things.
How would you rate each one for performance? I'm sure they all have there purpose. Mine is hauling Jeeps and my Tbird.
I'll probably never haul anything heavier than a FSJ. Maybe a M715 if it's in the region.
What's a M715 weigh?
Anyone know if an old style alum, Avion slide in camper really weighs 2500 LBS.
chrisnsarah
05-24-2007, 10:14 AM
I prefer towing hooks and either chains or good straps. The hooks go in the frame holes and you cinch down the frame. It doesn't bounce around so much on the trailer.
If you aren' t going very far, or don' t have a lot of highway driving , the axle straps will be fine.
Big fat trucker ratchet straps to the frame.:thumbsup:
IMHO
710 Burner
05-24-2007, 10:24 AM
I usually chain the back of the vehicle (if facing forward) to the trailer in case I have to get on the brakes hard. I usually use some big ratchet straps up front. I would use tire webs on the front side if A) i had mountings for them and B) they fit the tires. The tow hook idea has my interest instead of ratchet straps.
FSJ Guy
05-24-2007, 11:58 AM
Tire straps scare me, but I've never used them and I've seen them used by some car haulers. Either way, I prefer chains and RATCHETING binders when you can use em. Otherwise, appropriately rated straps are OK.
My M715 weighs in at 5,500 lbs. that's with an AMC 360/TH400/QT, but I don't think the stock 230 is much lighter.
I have a BigTex car hauler. I usually strap just to the axles. Is that so bad? I don't trust straps to draw down with a frame hook up. I used a 4 strap set up for cross country FSJ hauling with no problems. I also check them EVERY stop I make as well.
I like the chain hooks ideal.Anybody use the binders from Tractor Supply? Is there a good quality name brand to watch for? What hardness are good chains for straping?
My trailer has side pockets down the side for the tire webs and a small rail around the front 1/3. I think a set of webs for the car since it has no frame to grab onto.
710 Burner
05-24-2007, 06:09 PM
Tire straps scare me, but I've never used them and I've seen them used by some car haulers. Either way, I prefer chains and RATCHETING binders when you can use em. Otherwise, appropriately rated straps are OK.
My M715 weighs in at 5,500 lbs. that's with an AMC 360/TH400/QT, but I don't think the stock 230 is much lighter.
Lindel and I have both used the tire straps on the UHaul trailer. They attach to a ratchet and work pretty good, but a 31.5 tire is about all they will hold.
AlsChopShop
05-24-2007, 06:21 PM
when towing my jeep i just use a chain on one end (usually around the axle or springs) and a come-a-long or two on the other to keep the chain tight. :eek:
actually the last trip it was just a come-a-long on each end. :omfg:
i really need to invest in some of those big arse trucker straps with hooks. these jeeps have nice big holes in the front of the frame that are perfect for hooks. and i like tying to the frame best, you don't get that push-pull feeling on bumps at high speed.
Al
Wagoncrzy
05-24-2007, 06:38 PM
My trailer is a 18' dovetail with a small winch bolted to the head... I leave the winch line on and chain her down....I also screw a rubber chock in front and back of the vehicles tires. I tow with my Liberty Renegade and don't need any movement. I've towed from Ny to Ky and Ky to Mo with it. I wouldn't trust anything less. jim
JmHO but thats what I use. It's big heavy and it don't forgive.
Edit:No Hijack intended...personal note.
Never ever tow without trailer brakes.....I almost wrecked both vehicles once...there was a short in the trailer wiring and I figured I'd take it easy...That incident proved you can predict how easy your gonna take it....But not the people on the road...if you have to stop quik...you must have the adequate power to do so....I learned that while the trailer almost pushed me into another vehicle, when a accident occurred in front of me and I was cut off.I was lucky at the last second and had an out. Scared the Bejesus outa me.
RentACop2
05-25-2007, 10:42 AM
We've always justed used some good ratchet straps. I have found this out though, the poundadge that the ratchet strap is designated for means jack squat if the hook point for them on the trailer is rated for less than the strap.
Example: if the hook point on the trailer is rated for 2500lbs and your strap is rated for 5000lbs, you will only be able to secure 2500lbs. And oddly enough it does not mater how many hook points and straps you use you are still only good for 2500.
Im around truckers all day who haul 50,000 lbs or more and they were complaining about some new laws about secureing loads. Id figure if you had used 4 straps hooked to 2500 lbs rated points you could actualy hold down 10,000 lbs, but was told it just doesnt work that way.
Lindel
05-25-2007, 11:05 AM
What they told you is true, you have to go by the weakest point of your tie down. Mil-spec cargo straps are the best IMO, but they can be hard to get hold of.
learfxr
05-25-2007, 11:17 AM
I have a 18' all steel trailer. I run a long yellow ratchet strap around the front axle and then two short ratchets in the rear. I cross the rear straps and use axle straps on those also. I bought all this stuff at Northern Tool. The straps are rated at 10,000lbs. I've only found heavy chain rated at something like 6,000lbs, so I went with straps. They are cheaper than buying a bunch of new chain, hooks and binders. That stuff gets expensive quick.
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