a few ?'s

[Maynard]

ok, first one. how much does a cherokee weigh compared to a '75 chevy 3/4 ton?

how much power does a stock 360 have? how much torque?

the reason I am asking, last year I was started my jeep and went back in the house to let it warm up, when I came back out there was a huge lake of oil underneith, it was smoking like crazy and knocking. turns out that the oil pressure sender hose broke off and it was spewing oil everywhere http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/frown.gif . it was running 4 qts low.

I got the hose fixed, filled up on oil, and it seemed to run ok, smoked a little more, and had a rod knock on start up. but now it is fouling plugs bout every month, and burns a qt of oil a week, and has an incredible loss of power. I have no money to fix it, and it is me and my wifes only transportation.

anyway, to get to why the chevy ?'s. my dad put a crate 350 in his 3/4 ton truck bout 7 years ago, it is way underpowered for that big of a truck. he said I could have it if I helped him finish his other 350 he has been building for it. so I just was wondering if 180 hp is enough to move my cherokee?

Thanks in advance

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Alex
1976 Cherokee Cheif
383 Chevy, th400, d20
d44 f/r, 4" suspension lift,
33X12.50 General grabber A/T's
There are three kinds of poeple in the world, those who can count, and those who can't.

[JeepFreak]

Does he have a tranny and t-case for you to swap in as well? You are talking about allot of work to use a 350. Now if you had the tranny and t-case I would say go for it.

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JeepFreak

[Maynard]

I already have the chevy 383 in the jeep so everything else is all ready. im just wondering if the power the 350 is putting out is enough to move my jeep. my dad says that the 350 will probably have better low end torque then the 383, and I wont have the problems passing emissions because it doesnt have all the performance stuff, hopefully a little better gas mileage. http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Alex
1976 Cherokee Cheif
383 Chevy, th400, d20
d44 f/r, 4" suspension lift,
33X12.50 General grabber A/T's
There are three kinds of poeple in the world, those who can count, and those who can't.

[joe]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maynard:
ok, first one. how much does a cherokee weigh compared to a '75 chevy 3/4 ton?
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The Chev is about 4600 dry shipping weight(no fuel etc) and the Chero is about 3800(ship wt.)
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how much power does a stock 360 have? how much torque?
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76/360/2v/ 175hp, 275 ft-lb
76/360/4v/ 195hp, 285 ft-lb

As JeepFreak said if you have a good Chev trans/x-case it's a feasable swap but if you need to come up with both then the $$$'s increase quick. You'll need to concern yourself with the locations of the differentials also. Are they on the same side(pass) as on the Chero. If not you may need to swap axles also depending on what x-case you use.


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-joe
63 2-dr Wag, 72 J-4000, 73 J-4000, 82 CJ-8

[mrcat88]

You can get a lot of power out of a Chebby 350 - it makes more than enough power to spin the 31's on my friend's 3/4 ton chebby pickup - and that rig is pretty heavy!

[mahlmann]

I'm confused about what motor you want to replace. Do you already have a Chevy 383 (stroked 350?) in the Jeep now that has the oil consumption problem, or did you replace the AMC 360 motor with the Chevy? If you have a Chevy 383 stroker (which I don't believe the factory ever made) you've got a great motor for the Jeep. That sould have much better torque and HP than the Jeep motor did.

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Mike Ahlmann
'87 Grand Wagoneer
"Steel Brick"
Sunnyvale, California

[Maynard]

about 3 years ago I took out the 360 and t-18, and put in a 383 stroker that my dad built along time ago and a th400 with my stock d20 xcase. everything worked great until the oil problem last year. I am thinking about throwing my dads 350 in while I rebuild the 383 over time, because I am a poor married college student http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/smile.gif with only one vehicle that we can't go without for more than a weekend . I was just wondering if the low powered 350 my dad has would have enough guts to move my jeep. I think the only reason it even moves my dads truck is he has such low gearing.

SEAGULL...sorry just saw one flying straight at my window http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

If i wouldn't of sold my 360 and t-18 I would probably rebuild that and put that back in. geez i like creating more work for myself.

thanks for the info guys


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Alex
1976 Cherokee Cheif
383 Chevy, th400, d20
d44 f/r, 4" suspension lift,
33X12.50 General grabber A/T's
There are three kinds of poeple in the world, those who can count, and those who can't.

[243]

It sounds like a no-brainer for a "poor, married college student" http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

The 383 typically puts out more torque than the 350 and was a sweet, docile looking 350 to unsuspecting eyes at the Saturday night street fights...

Pay for the 350 with a little work wrenching for you Dad while you take your time refreshing the 383.

This advice is coming from a "poor married college graduate, with two kids, a mortgage and two car payments" guy who just dropped a 401 in his 79 that had been sitting for years...all I did was replace the oil pan gasket, change the oil, prime it twice and start driving it to work.

Sometimes how FAST you get there is not as important as IF you get there http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

Good Luck with the Jeep and school,

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243

Ol'e Blue
79 Wagoneer 401/T400/QT

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[jeepbob]

The 350 will be fine for now. Put it in and then redo the other motor when you have the cash. The Jeeps are not as heavy as the Chevy, they just look that way. That is the secret of a FSJ, they are (conparitivly)light.

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65 wag. 360/edelbrock rb4/t400/20 t-case/4:10 d27/d44 broken power lok/onboard air/onboard 110v power(no inverter)/1999 Lincoln t.c.leather buckets/Lincoln ctr console/winch/33x12.50/tunes/water proof door pads
soon to have new motor/d44frt/d60r(4:10)welded diff/custom bumpers
see ya in da mud

[Maynard]

thanks you guys for the info and suggestions, i pretty much planed on doing it, just wanted to hear what you guys thought. I kinda ticks me off that after all that work to put the 383 in that I have to change it again. oh well, ya live and ya learn right http://www.ifsja.org/ubb/smile.gif thanks again


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Alex
1976 Cherokee Cheif
383 Chevy, th400, d20
d44 f/r, 4" suspension lift,
33X12.50 General grabber A/T's
There are three kinds of poeple in the world, those who can count, and those who can't.