View Full Version : Any U-Haul employees, Urgent!!
Lindel
04-12-2007, 06:40 PM
I need to know if U-Haul has (and will rent) a trailer that will carry a stock 79 J-10. This is fairly urgent, as in by next weekend.
Ristow
04-12-2007, 06:43 PM
i believe jon (heavy_metal_thunder81) works for uhaul.
Lone Justice
04-12-2007, 07:05 PM
You did not hear it from me, but the dual axle trailer they have carried a cherokee chief 75 and 81 (respectively) with no real problem besides getting it on the trailer ( winch from a cj ) did use the provided tie downs and an extra come along to tie it down the rear axle from the Chief to the trailer.
Now I hear tell that originally it was rented to haul a s-10 pick up, which it will do with no problem, but there must have been a change of plans. I would not advise this as it would void all sorts of things? I do not advocate dishonesty.
Sometimes ....Forgiveness....Permission....Blah....Yaddah
Go to the uhaul site and go through the prelim reservation form and it will give you the guidelines.
The best way to go is find the people that rent them as a sideline, not the main uhaul place. You know those gas stations that you pass that always have a few about. You doing the leg work will save you time in the uhaul quagmire that sometimes occurs. This time of year I would reserve it now, good weather and people moving about and such. Weekends are popular.:cool:
LJ
Lindel
04-12-2007, 07:20 PM
Thanks LJ, I'll keep this in mind. I know they'll haul a Waggie, but I was concerned with the width.
PlumCrazy
04-12-2007, 07:36 PM
Where are you needing a trailer?
Wayne S
Crazy_Jeepman
04-12-2007, 08:21 PM
If the J10 has wide wheels it will be a bear to get on the trailer. I loaded a couple J20's with the stock wheels I had to let most of the air out of the tires to get it on the trailer. There are two widths, old trailers are a bit narrower than the new ones, so get a new one.
CowKiller
04-12-2007, 08:38 PM
when my j10 was picked up, it was on a uhaul dolly. VERY tight to get it on.
Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
04-12-2007, 08:45 PM
Ok, yes I work for U-Haul. You will have to tell them it is for an MJ or somthing because they will not allow you to put an FSJ on their trailer. The tires of the Jeep will rub on the fenders of the trailer on the way up just be slow and try not to run the trailers fenders over or theyll charge you big time for it. The driver side fender folds down too so thatll make loading a little easier. Depending on the tire size you may have to let air out of the tires too to get the straps around the front tires. Hope this helps.
qtrac82
04-12-2007, 09:19 PM
Lindel,....I just hauled a wide track Cherokee from Knoxville to Detroit on a
U-Haul tow dolly and here's what I did. First, tell 'em you're hauling an XJ or CJ. Like the others said, lower the air pressure in the tires. (I know this doesn't make sense cause when you lower the pressure the tire gets wider at the bottom) I got a newer trailer and had about an inch to spare on each side to the plastic fenders. IMPORTANT!!...The tires wil not be centered in the depressions that they're supposed to sit in (too wide). Also, they won't be centered with the hold down straps that wrap around the tires and the straps will tend to want to work their way off the tire towards the inboard side. You'll understand what I mean as soon as you pull the straps over the tire. Also, if you use a dolly, you'll see when you roll the jeep onto the dolly that the tires have to roll over the outboard welded loops that the tire straps attach to. Use the safety chains, DO NOT ATTEMPT TIGHT TURNS 'cause the dolly will only pivot so far and then the ouside tire will try to pull itself back off the dolly. Check the straps every few miles until you get the hang of just how to locate them over the tire so they'll stay for the long haul. Also if using a dolly, dont forget to center the steering and lock the steering wheel. Oh, and backing up with the dolly is a B!#ch.....
grand_wag_85
04-12-2007, 09:26 PM
Artsifrtsi towed a sprung over '79 Chero on 38's via Uhaul trailer but had to put it on backwards IIRC
I towed a 66 Chevelle w/my 69 Charger on a Uhaul trailer about 150 miles...Technically it was too big for my tow vehicle as per them, so we said it was a Cavalier IIRC, but I felt alot safer towing with the Dodge rather than the XJ plus it was cooler:cool:
Tell them it's an XJ or Comanche.
tylerd13
04-12-2007, 09:34 PM
I Uhauled my 72 waggy.
AlsChopShop
04-12-2007, 09:50 PM
yes it will fit on the newer trailers. if you know your tow rig well (how level it sits) you may be better off putting the truck on backwards as the trailers axles are so far back you'll have too much tounge weight with the j-truck forwards. but be sure that if it is loaded backwards that there is a few hundred lbs of tounge weight (why its good to know your tow rig) or you'll have a disaster above 45mph. also be sure on tight turns with it backwards so the bumper of the j-truck doesn't contact the taillights of the tow rig as it will hang over quite a bit. but it will tow much better with it backwards if that tounge weight is right. when i tow my cherokee on my flatbed it tows worlds better loaded backwards.
Al
Lindel
04-12-2007, 10:29 PM
The truck I'm going to use to haul the Jeep back home (from OKC to 65 miles SE of Dallas, about 260 miles) also towed an 88 GW from Little Rock, AR to the same home address. No issues with tounge weight that I remember.
dirtysouthjacket
04-12-2007, 11:03 PM
I just picked up my 79 Cherokee WT from Atlanta to Columbia (200 miles) on a Uhaul car hauler last weekend (not the dolly). My Jeep has a 6" Rusty's Spring Lift with 36 x 12.50's on it. I didn't have too much of a problem with the trailer wheel wells or getting it on (didn't have to let air out of the tires or anything like that). The tire straps of course did not fit the bigger tires ( I think they only work on 31" tires or smaller). I bought some really nice tiedowns from Home Depot. The trailer had shackles front and back for me to tie down to.
I did have to put the Jeep farther back on the trailer to keep the tongue down, however you definitely want some tongue weight. I had the Jeep pulled on the trailer forwards. I also couldn't go above 50 mph an hour on the interstate otherwise the trailer would start trying to push the truck and start fishtailing badly. I'd recommend a F-250 or Chevy 2500 or bigger to haul it. Also, one more point. I did tell Uhaul I had a 79 Cherokee on two occasions and they didn't have a problem with it. Final point - check to make sure your insurance company will cover a newly bought vehicle on a trailer. Some don't, but it can be added very reasonably, don't want anything bad to happen and be stuck. Anyways, Good luck and BE SAFE!
grand_wag_85
04-12-2007, 11:40 PM
The thing with tounge weight is that if you have too little of it it will take weight off the rear of the tow vehicle and fishtail above 45 as mentioned above.
Too much tounge weight can cause overloading of the rear axle on the tow vehicle as well as breaking issues. The key is to find the happy median so to say.
Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
04-13-2007, 06:01 AM
...I didn't have too much of a problem with the trailer wheel wells or getting it on (didn't have to let air out of the tires or anything like that)...
...Also, one more point. I did tell Uhaul I had a 79 Cherokee on two occasions and they didn't have a problem with it....
Some locations probably wont care what you put on it, I know mine does. Also the little side shop U-Hauls wont care much either. And for the first statement, I did some looking and it looks that the newer trailers are wider. I had an older trailer for my '81 W/T back when I went to bring it home.
I just work on the trucks, I dont sell them lol
Jayrodoh
04-13-2007, 06:35 AM
If yo uget the newer wide trailer, they fit just fine. Done it twice over 300 miles. Tell em your S10 has wide off road tires on it so you'll need the newer style. Works for me.
As stated before though, according to their computers an FSJ is too large and will void any coverage you got from them, and you'll probably be presonally liable for anything bad that might happen.
TexTJ209
04-13-2007, 10:19 AM
You can't tell them its a J10, I went with a 4-Door XJ.
Heres a pic of my WT Golden Eagle on a U-Haul. Width is juuuuust right.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p308/TexTJ209/DSC00048.jpg
waggy401
04-13-2007, 10:43 AM
I've towed FSJs with a Waggy on a UHaul trailer a couple times. Twice I had problems. Once was when I loaded backwards - almost lost it because the weight was wrong. Found a spot to unload the non-running Jeep, turn it around, and reload front first. That was an adventure. The rest of the way was smooth sailing. Just take it easy and go slowly.
The second time I had a problem was going up the Ashland Grade on I-5 from Medford, OR into California. My tranny started dumping fluid and I slowed down to 10 mph on the busy freeway. At night. I got it turned around and headed back since I was only about 35 miles from where I started, and on the way the trailer caught fire. It turned out one of the brakes on the trailer was dragging and overheated. UHaul refunded my money the next day, but I wasn't able to tow the Jeep home that weekend.
ArtsiFrtsi
04-13-2007, 10:57 AM
Artsifrtsi towed a sprung over '79 Chero on 38's via Uhaul trailer but had to put it on backwards IIRC
Absolutely correct. I turned the Chero around because of the tongue weight... was towing it with a 91 S-10 Blazer. Went fom OR coast to southern ID, without incident. The only real issue was that with those huge 38x15.5x15 tires were on top of the side rails. I used chains and binders to hold the Chero to the trailer.
Initially I used the trailer to haul a Suzuki Sammi, just didn't tell them what I hauled back. :D :fsj:
PhilG
04-13-2007, 01:14 PM
I hauled my 71 J2000 with one on a 3 hour trip. I havd to deflate the tires once I got it on and it was a tite fit, but it worked fine. The model I used the trailer fenders hinged out of the way and that help me get it on there easier. I told them I was hauling a Jtruck . .I told them AMC . .Jeep. .they couldnt find it in their computers and didnt give me any slack about it.
mrtazwrench
04-13-2007, 09:29 PM
all this trying to fit things on trailers reminds me of trying to get a 70's F250 on my own trailer, it has fender height rails the lengeth of the trailer too narrow for the lock-outs on a F250 to fit in between, luckly a J20 fits just right, anyway I put down some thick planks/beams ans had an inch to spare between the lock-outs ans side rails. my 87 J20 pulled it without a problem.:D
Jeep_Guy
04-13-2007, 11:46 PM
Heres some pics of mine on a the U-haul the day I got it. Dont remember what they called this one but it was a nice all aluminum, double axle. My dad said it towed really nice too. My honcho fit perfectly, as you can see. There was plenty of room width wise, but dunno if a long wheelbase J would have fit.
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2753/1000154sg2.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideontrailerqm1.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9618/tailgatevr3.jpg
duracell
04-14-2007, 10:51 AM
so i go to the uhal web site and in the spot that asks what you're towing and towing it with. it tells me my 88 grand wagoneer is not big enough to tow a 77 cherokee with either a car dolly or full trailer. the funny one was when i put in my dads 93 dodge 2500 club cab and it said the same thing. so would i be able to tow a 77 chero with an 88 gw or not
Lindel
04-14-2007, 11:02 AM
The GW will tow it, but you'll need to take it slow. The short wheelbase of the GW will make it very easy to "wag the dog".
Jeep_Guy, what size tires are on the truck in the pics?
duracell
04-14-2007, 11:27 AM
the short wheel bas i can under stand but saying my dads dodge 2500 isn't big enough is kinda funny
Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
04-14-2007, 01:46 PM
Heres some pics of mine on a the U-haul the day I got it. Dont remember what they called this one but it was a nice all aluminum, double axle. My dad said it towed really nice too. My honcho fit perfectly, as you can see. There was plenty of room width wise, but dunno if a long wheelbase J would have fit.
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2753/1000154sg2.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideontrailerqm1.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9618/tailgatevr3.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9618/tailgatevr3.jpg)
That is an AT auto transport K model. Those are the newer models.
Jeep_Guy
04-14-2007, 01:47 PM
Lindel, I think they were factory size but i'll go check to see if I still have one.
EDIT - Just checked, theyre 235 x 75 on factory 8" wide wheels.
Lindel
04-14-2007, 02:53 PM
The 31's I've got shouldn't be a problem then. MJ with wide tires it is then. Thanks guys. :thumbsup:
FSJ-Earl
05-23-2007, 03:11 PM
OK, so what ever came of this? Will a LONG BED J10 fit on a UHAUL trailer? I need to go pickup my latest purchase and all my baby jeep friends' trailers are too short!!!!
chrisnsarah
05-23-2007, 05:04 PM
OK, so what ever came of this? Will a LONG BED J10 fit on a UHAUL trailer? I need to go pickup my latest purchase and all my baby jeep friends' trailers are too short!!!!
A long bed is a tight fit lengthwise:eek: . I'm not sure about the camper specials.
I've hauled 4 FSJ's on U-hauls. I've been able to request the silver trailer every time, It's a little wider. If you have 31's or bigger, either let the air out or use your own tie downs. Thiers will barely go over large tires. On my '79, I ended up using the wheel straps around the front axles instead.
PlasticBoob
05-23-2007, 09:02 PM
I haven't read all the replies, but I remember long ago someone on this forum once advised telling them it's a "Jeep." Then when they ask what kind, reply with "I don't know. You know... a JEEP!" :D
Here are pics from when I towed mine:
http://home.off-road.com/~plasticboob/jeeptow.htm (http://home.off-road.com/%7Eplasticboob/jeeptow.htm)
YellowJeep
05-23-2007, 09:13 PM
I'm surprised so many people have had problems. I towed my 79 Golden Eagle Cherokee on a uhaul trailer and I couldn't have been hapier. Towing vehicle was a 1/2 ton Dodge Ram truck. I went to the website, told them I was hauling a 79 FSJ with a 2004 and no questions asked. Drove the Cherokee on the trailer, tied it down and drove it 6 hours home. Honestly, I'd take one of their car trailers in a heartbeat! I think they work awesome and have rented them several times for other vehicles (and NO, I don't work for them...this just sounds like an advertisement!)
<EDIT> BTW..Every trailer I've rented from uhaul was the silver "auto transport"
My $0.02
Jeep_Guy
05-23-2007, 11:09 PM
When I rented the trailer, in the pics I posted earlier, I told them exactly what it was, a 1982 Jeep j10 half ton pickup truck. There shouldn't be problem for them to find a trailer for you, they have stuff you could use for ford, chevy, and dodge fullsize pickups which are bigger than our jeeps. It would also help if you tell them the wheelbase and width.
Edit: I also used a u-haul trailer to bring home my 85 j10 which has the longer wheelbase. I'm looking at the receipt here, but all I can see about the trailer says, Auto transport AT 6364K. Not sure if that number means anyhthing or not. It also shows that I did tell them it was an 85 jeep pickup, and that we were towing with an 04 ford f250 (dads work truck). Only costed 49.95 plus tax for the day, not bad.
I've used u-hauls auto trailers twice so far and one of their car dollies once. So far, I'm impressed. They tow nicely and are reasonable priced to use(considering the only other option would be to own a trailer or know someone who does) You can even take it long distance and drop it off at another u-haul, for a fee of course..
All the ones I've used so far have also been the newer galvanized steel ones also.
Stuka
05-23-2007, 11:19 PM
It should be noted to people posting up WT cherokees, J-Trucks have a wider rear axle by several inches than WT cherokee.
But as pete said, make you you have stock 6-7" wide wheels with skinny tires. And make sure whatever you are towing it with is rated for that kind of weight. If you use a drop hitch, make sure its under 4", and that it also is rated for that kind of weight.
Lindel
05-24-2007, 04:50 AM
Sorry guys, I completely forgot about this thread after getting it home. It was a tight fit width wise, but the trailer was JUST wide enough to drive the truck up on to it. Good thing, cause that's about all the driving the tranny's good for now.
No trouble towing it home, but I didn't break any speed records. I don't have any idea what the weight of the trailer/truck was, but it was close to or over the max of my Chevy half ton.
Any way, thanks for the help. IIRC I did post pics of it on the trailer.
Marvin Gates
05-24-2007, 08:33 PM
I hauled a 79 Ford F150 from here to Calif last summer on a uhaul 2 axle trailer, had no problem at all. That Ford is no lite weight either. :D :D :D
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