ferd TTB front axle, anything worth keeping?

[JeepsAndGuns]

So are there any parts on the early 80's f250 TTB front axle that worth keeping? Does anything interchange or swap over to more useable axles? Only reason I ask is my dad has found a rolling frame from a early 80's 4x4 f250 diesel. (for the dana 70 rear that I am looking for) He was just gonna get the rear axle for me, but said he could give the guy a little bit more and just take the whole thing, if it would be worth it. He said it has lockouts and the hubs look pretty good sized (kinda like the ones on the D60 front I scored) and asked me if there were any parts off this front end I might could use. He hasnt got it yet, just wondering if we should get just the rear or the whole thing. I dont know anything about those funky TTB front axles and I didnt know if anything like steering knuckles, spindles, hubs, brake parts or anyhting else like that would be worth keeping? I figured I would ask yall. If there is nothing worth keeping then I will tell him just to grab the rear axle. (its in VA so I cant see it for myself or take any pics) Just figured it might be worth a shot.

[Bob Barry]

So are there any parts on the early 80's f250 TTB front axle that worth keeping? Does anything interchange or swap over to more useable axles? Only reason I ask is my dad has found a rolling frame from a early 80's 4x4 f250 diesel. (for the dana 70 rear that I am looking for) He was just gonna get the rear axle for me, but said he could give the guy a little bit more and just take the whole thing, if it would be worth it. He said it has lockouts and the hubs look pretty good sized (kinda like the ones on the D60 front I scored) and asked me if there were any parts off this front end I might could use. He hasnt got it yet, just wondering if we should get just the rear or the whole thing. I dont know anything about those funky TTB front axles and I didnt know if anything like steering knuckles, spindles, hubs, brake parts or anyhting else like that would be worth keeping? I figured I would ask yall. If there is nothing worth keeping then I will tell him just to grab the rear axle. (its in VA so I cant see it for myself or take any pics) Just figured it might be worth a shot.

If it's a D50 front axle, the lockouts are the same as for a D60. Aside from that, it's scrap-value (which in these parts is $135/ton)

[bigun]

Bart has been talking about trying to build a buggy using the duel ford ttbs, but with all the work he has taken on it'll be 3007 before he can look at another he says

[scotty]

the rest of the TTB is not completely useless,if youre crafty :)

you can use the goofy knuckles to make your own front 60 or 70. it take some fabbing,and the ball joints maybe arent quite as strong as a real front 60,and it maybe looks alittle goofy,but if the end result is a 60 or 70 diff with 35 spline shafts and big u joints it fits the bill.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=519881

[KaiserMan]

That's a great link Scotty. Pretty cool idea that guy had. Reminds me that I need to get over to Pirate more often.

[scotty]

yup,lots of good info over there. ive had that idea for awhile now. ive got a rear 70 housing and a TTB 50 in my friends garage,just need to find some time to put it together and make it work. it was nice to see someone actually do it and make it work sos i know im not wasting my time.

the big worry i had was the camber with the TTB ends,but looks like thats not gonna be too big an issue.

[KaiserMan]

Yeah the guy building that thing doesn't seem concerned about the camber.
It will be interesting to see how it holds up. This would be a sweet (cheap) way to end up with D70 or even 14b front ends. I sort of like the hi-nine idea someone had. Not for me, but something like that would go well under my cousins TJ.

[JeepsAndGuns]

Very interesting thread. A little more work than I want to do, esp since I already found a good 60 front. I just figured I would check before I wrote it off. Gonna call and tell him just to get the 70 rear and not worry about the front.

[scotty]

A little more work than I want to do, esp since I already found a good 60 front. I just figured I would check before I wrote it off. Gonna call and tell him just to get the 70 rear and not worry about the front.

if youre planning on scrapping it, you can keep the hub/rotor for spares for your 60,and maybe i could send ya a few bucks to cut off the inner "C" and sent that and the outer knuckle my way? :)

shoot me a PM or email if its somethin youre willing to mess with.

[jtr]

I believe that the front spindles/backing plate/ etc. are swapable to Ford High pinion 44. Swap to 8 lug and throw a floater in the rear and your done.

Just make sure the rear end is not a Dana 61.....The 84 F250 (460-no diesel) parts truck I had was sportin the 61 and the front had Dana 44 hubs NOT 60 hubs.

[FSJeeper]

I believe that the front spindles/backing plate/ etc. are swapable to Ford High pinion 44. Swap to 8 lug and throw a floater in the rear and your done.

Just make sure the rear end is not a Dana 61.....The 84 F250 (460-no diesel) parts truck I had was sportin the 61 and the front had Dana 44 hubs NOT 60 hubs.

Should be the TTB Dana 50 with Dana 60 parts from the spindle hub out.

BTW, I have a beater Jcab M715 on a F250 chassis with hot rod 460, etc. It has the Dana 50 TTB up front. I have had that truck airborn and have thrashed the crap out of the truck for years and never had any issue with the front axle.

[jtr]

The truck I had was 44 out:huh: .


More useless info
We just pulled a low pinion 44 out of a mid 70s high boy and put the 8 outers on a high pinion 5 lug 44. Pretty cool because you don't have to swap knuckles. :thumbsup:

[JeepsAndGuns]

So your saying that if it is the M50 TTB, that the spindles, hubs and lockouts will be the same as the ones on the 79 HP 60 front that I just picked up? Or is it only the hubs? It would be kinda nice to have a set of spare hubs, but dont know if it would be worth all the trouble.

Scotty, only thing I worry about would be the shipping part. Those would weigh a ton and shipping would probably be super high. Looking for a little more concrete info on parts interchange before I make the call to bring home just the rear or the whole thing.

[scotty]

The truck I had was 44 out:huh: .

call me crazy,but it sounds like maybe your rig had an 8 lug 44 TTB,not a 50 :)

if the parts rig in question has a 50 ttb,then the spindle out should be the same as the 60,but im not an expert.

[FSJeeper]

call me crazy,but it sounds like maybe your rig had an 8 lug 44 TTB,not a 50 :)

if the parts rig in question has a 50 ttb,then the spindle out should be the same as the 60,but im not an expert.

From direct on hands experience in this matter I can confirm the above is correct. The brakes are also Dana 60 and I have not checked it out, but the outer knuckle may be Dana 60 also.

[JeepsAndGuns]

Ok, so the hubs and spindles and rotors/calipers are the same as my HP king pin D60 front. Since it uses ball joints the knuckle is not gonna be the same.

But a spare set of hubs and spindles would be ok to have. I called and told him some of the parts might work. He is gonna talk to the guy in the next day or two, so I will see what happens.