rear steer?

[shadowjeep]

hey guys and gals, i need help and ideas for rear steering a GW for off road only use. anything from mild to wild is welcome:thumbsup:

[Elliott]

I don't know too much about rear steer, but I think Sumner is doing 14 bolt front axles so I'd think that would be pretty tough in a rear application as well.

http://image08.webshots.com/8/2/59/46/131325946aSFwqK_ph.jpg?

[shadowjeep]

linky no worky:D

[jaber]

Hydrolic pump off the motor to a valve in the cab to a ram on a steerable axle of your choice. Probably get most or all the parts from NorthernTool.com . (http://www.northerntool.com/)

[Elliott]

Opens fo me... you have to click on it though:p I saw a quote from 2002 this axle went for $7,000.

Here's John's contact info: http://www.sumnermachine.com/ it uses D60 outer components.

[jaber]

Tells us we're Forbiden!!!!!

[Elliott]

Hmmm, try this link then... http://community.webshots.com/album/124988550UOsOXn

[shadowjeep]

Tells us we're Forbiden!!!!!

told ya:D

[Elliott]

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10016/14BoltFrontAxle.jpg

[shadowjeep]

link works now, thanks.

if i turn a front axle around for the rear, what will i have to do to make the wheels turn in the right direction?

[shadowjeep]

Hydrolic pump off the motor to a valve in the cab to a ram on a steerable axle of your choice. Probably get most or all the parts from NorthernTool.com . (http://www.northerntool.com/)

thanks for the link, jaber:thumbsup:

[bigun]

Nothing this has been discussed many time over on pirate.

[scotty]

link works now, thanks.

if i turn a front axle around for the rear, what will i have to do to make the wheels turn in the right direction?

nothing. just turn it around and mount it up.

its a common misconception that if you rotate an axle 180* from its origninal orientation it will rotate the wrong direction,but this is only true if you try and use the axle upside down! :eek:

id love to make a 14 bolt front axle,but the oddball 30 spline diff stops me.ill use a 70 rear sos i can set it up to use run of the mill stock 60 shafts.

if i were gonna run rear steer(which i wouldnt,but if was gonna),id try and use an axle with the biggest u joints i could find.in other words,dont bother trying to do rear steer with a front 44 :eek:

id also use a standard cut front axle. using a HP 60 in the rear will drive the gears on the "coast side" wich is not as strong,just like running a standard cut gear in the front.

[Desert Beast]

http://www.fullsizejeeps.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10016/14BoltFrontAxle.jpg

well thats why it went for 7g's. it used the very pricey invisible axle shafts. :D

[yeep74]

well thats why it went for 7g's. it used the very pricey invisible axle shafts. :D

:lol: I bet they were the 90 spline ones! Why a centered front diff for 7 big wads I would want an offset diff.

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[Elliott]

I don't know that the axle above was the $7,000 Sumner unit... prolly not or it would have the 90 spline shafts in it...:thumbsup:

[Crazy_Jeepman]

I want to see the Transfer Case.............Centered Front output? Cross over under trans and engine oil pan? Two Diffs to push through the center of the trail. 7K............... Must be a JOKE! :eek: Or I am completly missing something :huh:

[shadowjeep]

high priced axles are out of my reach, can this be done with junkyard axles and parts?

[shadowjeep]

scotty
ill use a 70 rear sos i can set it up to use run of the mill stock 60 shafts.


that sounds like a good idea. how would you set up the carrier to accept the 60 shafts, just use a 60 carrier and larger bearings?

[BRUTUS]

I want to see the Transfer Case.............Centered Front output? Cross over under trans and engine oil pan? Two Diffs to push through the center of the trail. 7K............... Must be a JOKE! :eek: Or I am completly missing something :huh:

Since they are mudders... I bet they are running the t-case in a vertical orientation. Either that or they are just SOOO lazy that they didn't want to cut the C's off and re-tube the diff. I guess I don't see the point of having two huge pig diffs to shave instead of one. To each his own.

At that price you can get a D60 Pro Rock with 35 spline inners and outers BRAND NEW.

[Elliott]

Since they are mudders... I bet they are running the t-case in a vertical orientation. Either that or they are just SOOO lazy that they didn't want to cut the C's off and re-tube the diff. I guess I don't see the point of having two huge pig diffs to shave instead of one. To each his own.

At that price you can get a D60 Pro Rock with 35 spline inners and outers BRAND NEW.

Like I tried to communicate above, I got found the quote on the Sumner axle from a different search then where I got the pic of that axle. I doubt WMS would build an axle like the one pictured, that is the only example I could find to post a pic of. There has to be some DIY writeups out there on this though...