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Rande
12-15-2006, 07:21 PM
Well. Jeff and I have been busy working in the shop and now his cheap Jeep.

We've been insulating the walls and adding studs and interior wall covering. The wall covering consists of painted OSB on the bottom level, peg board above that and then metal to the ceiling. We also vented the gas furnace and insulated the overhead door.

The $250 Waggy needs a flexplate (flexplate, flexplate), we're also going the replace the rear seal while the engine is out, and it needs some attention to the gas tank coffin and frame rail.

We finished insulating the overhead door this morning then got started on pulling the engine out of the Waggy. We'll get the engine out tomorrow.

Here are some pics. In the last photo, Jeff is wondering: "can we do anything about that latch?"... Anyone here want to guess why?

JeepBountyHunter
12-15-2006, 08:34 PM
Warm and cozy or??? I've been going after the folks to let me do this to our garage, even though my new 210,000 BTU forced air unit heats the place well...the cost of kerosene here has gotten bad...
I like how you guys did it...

Rande
12-15-2006, 08:45 PM
Thanks JBH, it sure is warm now. We have one more wall to do. I remember changing the engine in my old '80 J10 C-Note in that shed before we had done anything to it at all. Dirt floor, 2x4s hung from the rafters with plastic sheeting draped down and a couple Knipco kerosene heaters inflating it like a blimp.

Its been expensive but well worth the effort. Jeff puts up the money (its his place afterall) but I help with the work. We scrounge, scrounge, scrounge.

JeepBountyHunter
12-15-2006, 08:51 PM
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Its been expensive but well worth the effort. Jeff puts up the money (its his place afterall) but I help with the work. We scrounge, scrounge, scrounge.[/quote]

I hear yah on that one :thumbsup: The plastic was stapled obviously? Seems like a perfect draft barrier, and what did you use on the garage door?...I'll have to see what I can do with our building...lol.

Rande
12-15-2006, 09:55 PM
Plastic was, indeed, stapled. We used fiberglass insulation and masonite on the door. There are rigid foam kits for the overhead door but you have to seal around the edges of the foam for full benefit. What we did has added a good bit of weight to the door and we need to have the door springs adjusted to compensate for the added weight. The opener still works good but you can tell its working hard.

Here are a couple more pics. These of the west wall and the north wall (the wall with the overhead door is the east wall, we still have the south wall to do). The OSB, pegboard, and metal wall coverings are going to go completely around the inside of the shop.

82j20
12-15-2006, 10:04 PM
heat , a hoist , and a crane:banghead: ...........**** son im jelous:mad: ...........nice shop dude:thumbsup:

Rande
12-15-2006, 10:17 PM
Thanks, but remember its Jeff's not mine. Jeff and I have been best buds since 7th grade and with all the work I've done, I have full access and use of it pretty much anytime I want. Its just 60 miles away is all. :eek:

Jeff has 10 acres there and I have my Comanche, the '37 IH, the '64 Gladiator and the '82 J20 stored there. Farms are great aren't they?

JeepBountyHunter
12-16-2006, 04:00 PM
:O 60 miles away..geez Rande....you use gas don't cha!

Rande
12-16-2006, 05:41 PM
Ya, but around here its a long way to work, a long way to my sister's, a long way to my brother's etc. Its a long way to anywhere.

grimgaunt
12-16-2006, 10:46 PM
Rande,
I have worked in a shop and know how useful a 2-post lift can be. We used to use it mostly for mufflers, exhaust, some brake work and hard to reach engine stuff.

Question though - apart from exhaust and undercarriage stuff, how useful is a post lift for the average FSJ'er ?

Hud
12-16-2006, 11:22 PM
Real men don't need no stinkin shop, Till it gets cool, or hot or rainny orr , hell ya we need a shop, and that one looks good to me...

Rande
12-16-2006, 11:26 PM
Probably not as useful as we find it. We do all our own work and our trucks are usually well used. We also all have multiple vehicles.

The lift does get regular use. There's a core group of 6 guys using the shop on a regular basis. Today there were 3 trucks on it. A week ago last Tuesday, I had my DD minivan on there for a timing belt replacement. That sure would have been much more difficult without it.

Of the 6 guys, 4 of us are real hobbiests. My DD, my Mustang, the Comanche and the '82 J20 have all been on there several times.

For us, its a Godsend. Well worth the money spent. For our friends and relatives who use it occasionally, its a real asset.

Rande
12-18-2006, 01:02 PM
Well, we got the engine out. Jeff's going to pressure wash it today. The parts should also be in today (flexplate, gaskets, seals). Tomorrow, we should begin replacing the valve cover gaskets the rear main seal, and the tranny front seal.

Once the engine is back in, we begin on the exhuast, frame and gas tank coffin. Then Tires, then the road!

madmule
12-18-2006, 01:32 PM
Now I have shop envy. That's a fine job y'all have done there. It motivates me to rearrange my garage, and shed to get maximum benefit of the small space I have. Thanks for the pics.

John

FSJ Guy
12-18-2006, 01:40 PM
MAN, that's a NICE SHOP!!! And it's even better now that you've got it insulated. SWEET! That's a nice hoist, no dragging a cherry picker around for you guys, huh?

Where's the green-with-envy-smilie?

Rande
12-18-2006, 11:15 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys. Its been a lot of work, and for Jeff, a lot of money. That hoist has a 16' reach and swivels 180*. Its bolted to the floor (which was poured an extra 8" deep there for a total of 12") and also bolted to a wall column at its top. The building shifted the first time we used it. Everything stayed where it shifted to and hasn't moved since. One more wall to insulate but we're working on the Waggy for his wife. The wall will wait another week or so.

Gotta keep the missus happy, I guess. She liked her '79 Cherokee (blown engine) and wants us to get the Waggy fixed up.

ArtsiFrtsi
12-19-2006, 01:47 AM
I guess I'll need to start working on my garage fairly soon... needing a place to keep the hobbies!

Rande
02-17-2007, 02:54 PM
Ok, its 2 months later and we're finally getting the engine back in. We were going to go straight at it til it was done but Jeff changed plans.

Here's Jeff with that dull look of a trapped animal we all get when we dive deep into these trucks. He's wearing a jacket in the heated garage because the pilot light in the furnace went out. It was about 30F when we started work. In the second photo, notice the ladder under the furnace? It got warmer...

He's getting ready to install a new front seal in the tranny.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/I66coupe/jeffjeep.jpg


Why we love the hoist and crane.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/I66coupe/jeffjeep1.jpg

Once we lifted it up I noticed Jeff hadn't installed the new oil pressure sending unit and choke switched he bought. Then I hear: "oh ya, I uh...I guess I forgot to order them...".

Well, there we are so far. The sender and switch are ordered but he doesn't want to install the engine until he has them on the engine. We're not sure if the engine mount would interfere with installing them if we went ahead and put the engine in. I figured we'd be just fine but he doesn't want to find out later that there's something in the way, so we wait. I figured we could look at the '83 J20 to see but at -2F neither one of us was going to want to crawl in the snow. So we wait...

Probably middle of next week we'll have it again.

710 Burner
02-17-2007, 09:53 PM
Real men don't need no stinkin shop, Till it gets cool, or hot or rainny orr , hell ya we need a shop, and that one looks good to me...
You forgot something besides gravel to lay on. I scored a property with a 24 x 30 insulated garage this year. I added my 24,000 BTU heater and I'm lovin' the work space. Its a great place to smoke cigars and twist my nuts. :cool: On the waggy!!

Mud Thrasher
02-18-2007, 07:47 AM
Yup, that's the shop that dreams are made of! With 10 acres you can park a lot of cars out there and lose/misplace them. Those heaters don't have a self ignitor? I guess I'm just used to working on regular central gas heaters. I dont think i would be working on anything without them. My brother in chicago said it was only 5 degrees friday when he left coming down here. I thought i saw sweat on his forhead when he got here and it's 50 outside.;) I started tearing all the stuff off my engine yesterday also so i could pull it. I hate vacuum lines!

Ristow
02-18-2007, 08:14 AM
nice shop rande.


looks like about the same as my heater,'cept mine's in a 2 car garage.-10 to jungle in minutes.140'000 btus'.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/milltownmike/heater.jpg




mine's coming out when i get the remote wood burner here,if we're still here next fall.

710 Burner
02-18-2007, 08:59 AM
...Those heaters don't have a self ignitor? I guess I'm just used to working on regular central gas heaters. .
I like mine manual. I can fire it up in an emergency (no electricity required).

FSJ Guy
02-18-2007, 09:29 AM
Mine has a pilot, too. I light it manually because you can actually HEAR the pilot light roar, it's that loud. Also, being in a garage (gasoline, etc), I don't like the idea of un-monitored open flames.

Shop heaters sure are nice. One thing I'd really like, however, would be a heated concrete floor! That floor NEVER warms up!

bigun
02-18-2007, 10:22 AM
Shop heaters sure are nice. One thing I'd really like, however, would be a heated concrete floor! That floor NEVER warms up!
I worked in a shop that had heat in the floor talk about nice!! If and when I build my shop it'll definatly have under floor heat!!!