post bj's 6" lift flex pics please

[j20krawler]

i just want to see some pics of the bj's 6" lift in some flex action, i would also like to see some j trucks with the lift, thanks alot.

[83waggy]

i wish i could give you some flex shots, but it doesnt flex yet, maybe next year

[funwheeling]

Check out my web site below. Page 7, I think.

I think I can get more flex if I did't turn the wheel.

[j20krawler]

i wish i could give you some flex shots, but it doesnt flex yet, maybe next year

it wont flex yet? oh its new, so how long would it take to break in??

[83waggy]

it wont flex yet? oh its new, so how long would it take to break in??

its been on the road about 2 months now, off road a few times, it is loosening up a bit, but very very slowly and im not sure how good its gonna get. Chances are i will be doing spring over before they get worn in

[funwheeling]

Remember these are leaf spring. They will not flex like coil overs. Do a search for these conversions.

[j20krawler]

for the SOA, how will it let you get mroe flex?

[funwheeling]

for the SOA, how will it let you get mroe flex?

Good question. I thought it gave you more room for bigger tire with less money. Not more flex.

[j20krawler]

i heard the soa gives you more flex because you can use springs with less arch witch will give you more flex or something like that.

[mudslider]

will these work? its not a bjs but its the same size lift.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid176/p7daff32dc7f19657b22843ef69ebdb27/f365e57a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid210/p2a7990816ece171acb1c9a8ec343a2bb/ede2b73b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid176/p313115bfe71f32e201dfb882e2b78d65/f365e583.jpg

[j20krawler]

will these work? its not a bjs but its the same size lift.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid176/p7daff32dc7f19657b22843ef69ebdb27/f365e57a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid210/p2a7990816ece171acb1c9a8ec343a2bb/ede2b73b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid176/p313115bfe71f32e201dfb882e2b78d65/f365e583.jpg



yea those are awesome what kind of lift is it??

[mudslider]

its a rusty's but i would advise to use a bjs. the shocks are a heck of a lot better and better service. this lift was a rough ride.

the springs will take about 1 year to wear in good.

im actually in the process of an soa/shackle flip. i shouldve done that the first time around.

[j20krawler]

on the soa and the flip, what exactly do you all have to do an what do you need?

[AlsChopShop]

for the SOA, how will it let you get mroe flex? soa using stock (soft and flat) springs will get you more flex, the lift springs are less leafs per pack and stiff from the arch, makes for less flex.

Al

[mudslider]

well you will need someone with a welder for this, for sure.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=59440&highlight=shackle

this looked to be a good idea. you will need longer brakelines and shocks for the rear.

for the front thats a whole other ballgame. one i havent got to yet. ill give it a shot. youll need again longer shocks, brakelines, drop pitman arm, spring perches and notch your transmission xmember maybe im not sure about your driveshaft. im doing a custom one. for the bottom side towards the axle youll need to either do a x over steering or high steer. someone else will have to chime in now.

it sounds like alot but it will be for sure worth it.

[j20krawler]

using stock springs, will it sag?, how many inches of lift will this net you??

[mudslider]

it will net you about 6-7 inches as far as sagging that depends on your current springs. if they sag then yup youll have sag but if they are gfood then nope.

[j20krawler]

if i use stock springs front and rear while making the front soa, ill get a 6-7 inch lift without blocks and all spring?

[mudslider]

yup if you use front and rear stock springs doing a shackle flip and soa youll net 6-7" of all spring lift.

[j20krawler]

the back is already soa, then i would have to do the soa in the front and do some other stearing system, but about the flip, i dont really know what that is

[crazydog]

Search is your friend.

http://ttsfabworks.home.mchsi.com/welcome.htm

Look at the SOA kit and RB's Flip Kit. They are great kits, but you will still have some fab work to do.

[mudslider]

the rear is soa yer right. youll need to shackle flip it to make it level with the front of your truck. what this is, the link i put earlier...look in it at the first pic. the shackle faces up, that pic is of the rear spring/rear hanger. now look at the link i put here...the first pic in this one the shackle got flipped, now its downward. thats what is going to bring your axle up.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=45663&highlight=shackle+flip

[Moose79J20]

Heres some pics of the J20 on 36's at the Mounds in MI. It has the BJ's lift. Its not the best flex yet because this is the 2nd trip on the new leafs.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/Moose_92/The%20mounds/MoundsFirsttrip018.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/Moose_92/The%20mounds/MoundsFirsttrip019.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/Moose_92/The%20mounds/week1Fall06017.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j296/Moose_92/The%20mounds/week1Fall06018.jpg

[j20general]

thats not bad...how does it ride with the new leafs? mine bjs6in lift is on the way

[Moose79J20]

The ride isn't much worse than stock as I remember, I only drove 10 miles with it before I put the lift on.

[j20brett]

here's what a shackle flip looks like...
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=59440

[Stuka]

An SOA is not cheaper than a 6" spring lift.

As for an SOA giving more flex, its because the springs are flat and not really arched, so they have a softer spring rate.

Here is my cherokee with 6" front springs, but the back is a shackle flip with stock springs, so the back flexes better than if it had 6" springs also:

http://stuka.fsjnetwork.com/fsj/swampers/rear-flex.jpg

http://stuka.fsjnetwork.com/fsj/swampers/front-flex.jpg

[wickedwagon767]

Thats true, SOA involves more tech to get everything in the right spot and will end up costing as much if not more than just using lift springs. Typically, new spring perches will need to be welded on the top of the axle tubes, a hi-steer conversion is basically mandatory and pinion caster may or may not be satisfactory without cutting and turning the steering knuckles, which can be expensive.

www.ttsfabworks.com (http://www.ttsfabworks.com) makes a sooooooooo easy bolt-in shackle flip kit for the rear of FSJ's that will get you approx 7 inches of lift for about $250 to your door. If you're a beginner and looking for 6-7 inches of suspension lift and aren't ready to get into the somewhat complicated SOA route, I'd recommend bolting on a set of 6" lift front springs with a dropped pitman arm for steering correction and using the shackle flip keeping the stock springs in the rear to level out the ride, like stukas setup. A small body lift and/or fender trimming will allow you to run some beefy 35-37" tires with decent flex after the new springs wear in. Don't forget to get longer shocks and lengthened brake lines, plus you will probably end up having to lengthen your driveshafts, or have custom ones built(depending on your budget).

[87Wagon]

i wouldnt think you would need driveshaft mods with 6inches of lift. The only reason i say this is because Bjs 6inch lift doesnt require driveshaft mods. I could be wrong but i have heard plenty of people running 6inches of lift on this forum without problems. Lol but hey what do i know

[funwheeling]

Mines working good without new drive shafts.

[Stuka]

Drive shaft mods depend on the year and drivetrain. Some do, some don't. With an SOA, you do need them, as you get closer to 7-8" of lift and you have more articulation. With that added droop, you normally need a high angle front drive shaft.

[Thumpszilla]

Well as far as soa and shackle flip being as expensive as a 6" lift I would disagree. I built my lift shackle flip and perches for $40 worth of steel. I also did not need to go with x-over or highsteer. I was running a 4" drop pitman arm from bj's with no problems whatso ever. For those who are gonna say I must not have flexed it out here is you a few pics. Worked great and steering was great.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/thumpszilla/WHEELIN%20PICS/9-17-06%20Bumpus/z09-17-06Bumpus070.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/thumpszilla/WHEELIN%20PICS/Paint%20Creek%2011-25-06/100_1476Small.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/thumpszilla/WHEELIN%20PICS/Paint%20Creek%2011-25-06/100_1435Small.jpg

[Stuka]

Well as far as soa and shackle flip being as expensive as a 6" lift I would disagree. I built my lift shackle flip and perches for $40 worth of steel. I also did not need to go with x-over or highsteer. I was running a 4" drop pitman arm from bj's with no problems whatso ever. For those who are gonna say I must not have flexed it out here is you a few pics. Worked great and steering was great.

There are also people that have body lifts made of wood, and just because it does technically work, does not mean its done correctly.

If you never drive on the street, than the DPA may work for offroad only (although I have seen this setup bind up offroad). But on the street, not having a correct steering setup can lead to some bad things happening (like hitting a pot hole and having the wheel ripped out of your hands). So it may have worked for you, but that does not means its a safe way to do it. There is a reason the people that have been here and done the stuff say to do things a certain way.

[Thumpszilla]

Mine works fine on the street I have had the truck at 65mph+ on the street. Never had the wheel ripped out of my hands. My truck was driven to every trail and alot of other places.

There are also alot of people here that follow whatever everyone else does. Here is a pic of the passenger side from the first pic I posted. I think if it was gonna bind it would have then. It kills me how you people think you have to spend a fortune to be able to wheel it and drive it on the street. Also my lift is just as beefy as ttfab works kit is. The rear is made from 1/4" thick 3 1/2" in box tubing and perches are 3/8 plate. No offense to tadscal or R.B. but they are not the only ones who can make an Soa and shackle flip kit for an fsj. Anyone that knows how to weld and halfway fab can. I admit that crossover or highsteer may be better becuase of clearance issues but I don't think either are mandantory. If I hadn't torn the tranny out of my truck I would take it anywhere anyone with soa, shackle flip, and x-over or highsteer goes.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/thumpszilla/WHEELIN%20PICS/9-17-06%20Bumpus/100_1011.jpg

[Stuka]

Actually if it was going to bind, it would be when the passenger side tire is drooped. As the drag link angle gets better when the passenger side tire is compressed.

I never said anything about your fab work though. TT's just makes it easy for those whom can't do their own fab work. Its not ment for people whom can.

[Thumpszilla]

There are also people that have body lifts made of wood, and just because it does technically work, does not mean its done correctly. Kinda hard to tell from your post Man! Didn't bind then either.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/thumpszilla/WHEELIN%20PICS/Misc/100_1386.jpg
or then
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/thumpszilla/WHEELIN%20PICS/Paint%20Creek%2011-25-06/100_1434Small.jpg

I have never had a binding problem whatsoever with my setup. I am not saying that it is not possible but in all the flexed out situations I have been in it has never bound up on me. But to each his own I guess. Saying that x-over or high steer is recommended ok but saying it is mandantory to be safe bull.