Ok made up mind, NV4500, but......

[Tubro]

What xfers will bolt to it without a problem, someone told me (sorry don't remember who) in my last thread, that all the NP units will bolt up. Should I go for a NP208 or a NP205? As stated I won't be taking it offroad, but I do use to to pull cars around and sometimes skid logs and such. Now right now its a 258, but it will be a 360 soon. Can the 208 hold up to a slightly warmed over (Cam, headers, intake and EFI) 360 when I put it in compound low? Do either bolt up without special adapters? I'm sure I know where I can get either one. I have a 4X4 junkyard in my town with lots of old 70s and 80s pickups and a few FSJs. Where should I look for one? I do not want a slipyoke type rear, and it needs to be passenger side drop.

Thanks, you guys are more than helpful
Brian

[scotty]

ok let me rephrase: the dodge nv4500 has the circle pattrn and 23 spline output that will accept the aluminum jeep or dodge new process case of your choice.

i could be wrong,but i do not believe that dodge ever used the np 205 in a married application behind the nv4500. gm and ford had versions of the 205 that used the circle pattern,but ford used a 31 spline,and gm used either a 28 or 32 spline input.

if you use a dodge nv4500,you can use whatever case is on it,you can use the dana 300,or you can use any of numerous dodge or jeep aluminum new process cases(207,208,219,228/229,231,241,242). be aware that most dodge cases have a slip rear yoke instead of a fixed yoke,as do the 207,231 and 242 that you will not find in a factory fsj application.these cases were found in xj,tj,yj and also have a slip rear yoke.

since your front diff is on the passenger side,id reccomend using the dana 300.you can twin stick it if you want,and even tho you dont care about low range,or the option of adding a 4 to 1 low for a d300,id use it for no other reason than its cast iron,gear driven,and very strong. your other option for using a pass side diff would be to use a full size dodge 241.its prolly plenty strong for your application but again you have a rear slip yoke instead of a fixed yoke,can you live with this? you can convert to a fixed yoke but that costs more $$$

if had a driver side diff ,or wanted to swap your front axle,i think your best bet would be the jeep 208. its prolly plenty strong if you get a good one in the first place and maintain it. it will bolt right on,and you have a fixed rear yoke allready.

the jeep 242 is farily strong,and has the benefit of a fulltme 4x if you drive in alot of ice and snow,but it was never found in a fsj,and all the "little jeep" versions have a slip rear yoke.

FYI,the d300 and most aluminum NP cases share the 2.61 low range,cept for the 207,which is 2.72.

FYI all 80 and up jeeps(cept the 80-86 cj) use a driver side diff.

FYI full size dodges use a pass side diff,while the small dodge used a driver side

id avoid the 207 since it is an older,light duty case.the 231 is ok,has a better lubrication system than a 207,and can be beefed up with aftermarket stuff including hardend planetary gears,bigger chain and sprockets,plus the avaiability of fixed yoke conversion,4 to 1 low, and a 2wd low position on the shifter. but youll hafta spend a buncha $$ to make it as stong as the HD dodge 241,or even the jeep 208.

hope this helps. further questions? smile.gif

[ January 15, 2002: Message edited by: scotty ]

[Tubro]

Ah hah thanks scotty this helped out alot. Since I am gonna get a used one from a 4X4 dodge, I will just use whatever is behind it, since they are pass side drop. They do have real sticks right? I know my dad has two 2001 4X4 dodges, but they are autos. I want a stick thru the floor and no complicated vacume lines and switches. Well I would switch to a drivers side axle, but after I go find a WT to get one out of, I'm just better of getting a pass side xfer.

I'll start looking for that NV4500. Oh yeah, what dodges should I be looking in? 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton? I know nothing about Dodge 4X4s smile.gif Been a Jeep and IHC man too long!

[Tubro]

Oh yeah, if I use the xfer thats gonna be on it, 241 right, could I use a fixed yoke output off say a Jeep 208? I know where i can get one out of a wag, or if its not one, can I use parts off that to convert it. Its not really that big of deal, other than I like the option of pulling the rear driveshaft and driving home in front wheel in an emergency, BTDT.

[scotty]

it would prolly be a 241. the 208 tailshaft,hosuing and yoke willnot interchange.

i prolly wouldnt wory bout it too much.i have seen people simply duct tape a plastic pop bottle over the tailshaft and roll with it.it may seep alittle,but it will keep enuff of it in there so you can get home. just make sure that you have a roll of duct tape and the appropriate size pop bottle in your spare parts box smile.gif thats what i did.i ran a 207 with a rear slip yoke for a long time,and as long as i had the bottle and ducttape with me,i didnt really worry bout having to pull the rear shaft.

dont know much bout dodges either,cept that id like to find an 85 1/2 to 90-something dodge front 44 with a pass side diff and axle disconnect smile.gif im pretty sure a full size dodge 4x4 should have a real stick stead of a button or vaccum doohicky

[ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: scotty ]

[64Trvlr]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by scotty:
ok let me rephrase: the dodge nv4500 has the circle pattrn and 23 spline output that will accept the aluminum jeep or dodge new process case of your choice.
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Not all Dodge NV4500's have the 23 spline output shaft. Only the light duty ones have it, I had to buy a light duty shaft to put in mine ( about $200 new ). I'm going to use a D300 behind mine so that's as far as my opinion on the transfer case goes. Sounds like a great swap, good luck.
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[TexasJ10]

I think starting in 1994 the dodge full size trucks switched to a drivers side drop. The 241HD that I have to mate to a NV4500 has a drivers side drop and came from a 3/4 ton truck with an automatic. Unfortuantely it came with 23 spline shaft and I needed the 29. The 241HD came with both 23 and 29 spline inputs and a rear slip yoke. The Chevy version dropped on the passenger side. Dodge is now shipping the 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks with a NP271 with a 29 spline input. Ford also switched to this transfer case for the biggre trucks, but uses a different input size. The case is stronger and it comes with fixed yokes. Just my observations.

[Panther]

here's one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1819365124

[TexasJ10]

Be careful with this outfit. They did not ship mine setup as I had instructed, and the cost of returning it was too great to justify having them fix it. They also do not even provide the shift tower components. When they say they don't provide a shifter, they mean that they do not even provide the shift tower. It costs over $200 to get a stub shifter shaft, spring, retainer and lower boot. They painted over grease and dirt on the outside of the case rather than properly cleaning it as well. I would avoid this place in the future.