View Full Version : The township called about my wag today
It isn't road worthy, so it isn't inspected. I don't drive it, so it isn't insured either. Because I'm not paying insurance on it...I can't get it registered. It's a project. I'm sure some of you can relate.
Apparently one of my neighbors isn't happy with it being parked on the street in front of MY house. It isn't ugly. No worse than some of the other cars in the neighborhood. Instead of coming to me...they went to the building inspector. A-hole. No mention was made of some guy's landscaping trailer that sits next to my wag...or the porsche across the street that hasn't moved since December...or the other guy with his boat out front...or...
What they didn't realize is...I've been self-conscious of it being out there all along (I live in a somewhat upity neighborhood). I'm in the process of building a shop/deck/patio. Once complete, I'll be able to move my tools into the shop and the wag into the garage. Until then, looks like I'll be moving it onto my driveway. Maybe I'll buck up the $700-800 to get it insured and registered...and leave it right the F where it is.
I'm pissed!:mad:
baybilly
05-24-2006, 07:06 PM
don't you just hate those kind that have noting to do but bit-ch about someone else. get her taged and leve her right their to piss them off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if your goining to tag it anyway.
91G-Dub
05-24-2006, 07:10 PM
Git er done!
Tag it and leave it there just to p1ss them off! :mad:
Something to be said for living out in the boondocks!
rustywag
05-24-2006, 07:14 PM
I have a rusty primered CJ tub next to my garage about 25' from my neighbors front door. Instead of being "man" enough to ask me about it they complained to the local zoning department and I got a nasty letter RE: Dispose of the unregistered vehicle or you'll get a BIG fine" 'cause it's a 78 tub (eligible for historic tags w/no inspection required) I took the title to the MVA and tagged it two years ago. I have to keep it insured at a cost of $70.00 per year but it's worth it to me. Its a rusty hulk of a tub just sitting there with a valid tag bolted to it. I've been done with it for quite some time but I'm still steamed that they couldn't just ask me about it so I'm gonna let it continue to sit and rust, heck, I can't even see it from my house.
83widetrac
05-24-2006, 08:24 PM
I'd tag it and make em look at it! Then I would return the favor and start complaining on what they have siting around thats a eye sore to the community.
J10Joe
05-24-2006, 09:12 PM
sounds like a shwitty neighborhood. For FSJs i mean. my neighbors are cool, but will tell me if my junk bothers them. i guess i should be thankful for that.
DanHS
05-24-2006, 11:22 PM
Hmm, nobody's bothered me about the '76 Buick sitting there in my driveway going nowhere. I'm gonna put a car cover over it to make it look better tho. Wonder if I'll ever hear anything about the GW sitting around being repaired or anything. People seem to keep out of other's business here.
82j20
05-24-2006, 11:50 PM
I have a rusty primered CJ tub next to my garage about 25' from my neighbors front door. Instead of being "man" enough to ask me about it they complained to the local zoning department and I got a nasty letter RE: Dispose of the unregistered vehicle or you'll get a BIG fine" 'cause it's a 78 tub (eligible for historic tags w/no inspection required) I took the title to the MVA and tagged it two years ago. I have to keep it insured at a cost of $70.00 per year but it's worth it to me. Its a rusty hulk of a tub just sitting there with a valid tag bolted to it. I've been done with it for quite some time but I'm still steamed that they couldn't just ask me about it so I'm gonna let it continue to sit and rust, heck, I can't even see it from my house.
hahahahahaha thats golden dude good on ya :)
babywag
05-25-2006, 12:53 AM
Just went through a similar issue, tag it and park the f*'er in front of the complainers house.
I got my '73 running/driving so the city can't do sheeit:D
Dmntxn77
05-25-2006, 01:07 AM
That sucks... BUT, I have to say, ever time I see the word "township" I have to chuckle... Sounds like you are waiting for the pilgrims to arrive...
Been there gone through that...
City Zoning: Too many vehicles on the property.
HOOT: How do you determine that?
City Zoning: You have a 2 car garage with space to park 3 on the pad out in front. Totals to 5 .
HOOT: But what about the legal parking along the street in front of my property?
City Zoning: Good for 3 more.. Why so many anyway?
HOOT: Don't worry about how many I want to own. Just so you know I also own the 7 adjoining lots to my house. Looks like I'm good for 29 cars now.
City Zoning: These 2 (Chero's) aren't tagged or registered?
HOOT: I just put them there last week so I can strip them down.
City Zoning: 30 days to clear them out and scale down the "car lot".
HOOT: :mad: :mad:
They got me on a cold hard fact and violation. I asked my neighbors about my place and the cars. They all think I'm silly for messing with Jeeps but none had no problem with them. I have always stayed in close contact with all my neighbors to avoid something like this. They were also informed that the 2 Chero's would only be there for a couple of weeks. All you could see from the road was the rear ends of 2 jeeps in the drive. No evidence of a stripping carnage at all.
My neighborhood rant and talking to one neighbor led me to suspect something very wrong with the neighbor across the street from me. I talked to her again this time informing her that Claudie has told me you want my bushes cut down between the house and garage. She then said "I see they came and talked to you about all those cars ". I grumbled about that visit from the city. "So what's wrong with my bushes"? I asked her trying not to lead on that I now know she was behind this visit. She then informs me that it blocks her view of the Ohio River. I laughed and offered to SELL her the bushes. Then I took her over to them to show her that they were the borders to my gardens out back. Her jaw about hit the ground as she stood there looking at a full blown blooming KY landscape with the Ohio River in the back ground. Spring is one of the prettiest months here and this was in early April. I then told her the bushes could be bought for $150,000 and escorted her back to the street. She laughed at the price and I then told her she should of bought my property when it was for sale before I bought it.
I did get rid of the 2 parts rigs. One J cab and a frame. Zoning Violation Sign removed from my yard. I then licensed and insured my B250 Dodge conversion van and brought it home from a friends back field and parked it in the street so now "Miss I want Your View" cannot even see the bushes that blocked her view.:D :cool: I now move it back and forth about a foot every couple of weeks. $150 a year is priceless for my revenge. I also reported her for having a stack of old windows laying against her garage. Not to mention constantly slamming her to the city every chance I get. I even went after the Zoning Comissioner and 2 city council members. All 4 were found in violation thanks to my keen eye and inside connections.
My 174 year old house and 1 1/2 acres were completely over grown, so thick and tall you couldn't walk through 80% of it, when I bought them 7 years ago.My immediate neighbors can't believe the changes made. The house still has a long way to go but the yard looks far better than any in this city. I do enjoy the yardwork and of course My River View. In a couple of years they will no longer be able to see the River from West High Street anymore without crossing onto my property.
Make it legal and make them look at it. :D
kahula
05-25-2006, 04:29 AM
i went thruthe same thing, but here in tx to get it registered/insured. tagged it HAS to be running, thats why i'm paying $2000 (so far due to being in a mechanics garage since late janurary. (he's also working in it intermmittenly when he gets the parts in)
Sounds like a resounding...F'em. I'm going to talk to my insurance guy after work to see what it'll cost to insure it. If it's not too crazy much...it'll sit right where it is. Makes me wish I had "SeriousJohnson's" place up in the mountains.
drlocke
05-25-2006, 06:23 AM
Whenever I read threads like this one I thank God that I live in the boonies, where no doctor's wife or pale-faced milquetoast accountant can look at my place and tell me how to run my life. Were I to be served such notice about one of my lowly rides I would calmly roll said paper into a diploma form, wrap it in a bob-wire ribbon and put it where it belongs. I'll even be a good Sammy and offer a tube of Preparation H to the recipient.
710 Burner
05-25-2006, 07:04 AM
That sucks... BUT, I have to say, ever time I see the word "township" I have to chuckle... Sounds like you are waiting for the pilgrims to arrive...
Too funny. Not only have they arrived, the Quakers have moved in.:cool:
JeeperJay
05-25-2006, 07:32 AM
I guess I have a slightly different perspective than the rest of you fellas...
If the vehicle is tagged, I have NO problem with it being parked on the street. But, if the vehicle does not have plates and it hasn't moved in a few months, I'd be pretty ticked off as well. Heck, I went through this with a few of my neighbors. They would buy a different car, then park the old one ON the street with no plates. That **** car sat in the SAME spot for over a year. They did this on 2 separate occassions.
It just makes the neighborhood look bad if there are "abandoned" vehicles parked on the street. If they have plates, park it wherever you want. If it doesn't have plates, it belongs in the yard.
I'll also be the first to say that I've had my fair share of crappy cars and parts cars sitting in my yard, but never more than one Unregistered on the property.
vstargirl
05-25-2006, 07:59 AM
Heck we use old cars to stop erosion around here!:D We live in the huge city of Alamogordo, NM. We can fit 2 Jeeps in the garage and at least 6 more in the drivway. Our neighbors park in front of our house because they don't have room to park all their cars in their driveway. We also have a Chevy Luv in the back yard that will be moved to the garage as soon as my husband finishes going thru all his "stuff":rolleyes: .
mudslider
05-25-2006, 08:21 AM
Git er done!
Tag it and leave it there just to p1ss them off! :mad:
Something to be said for living out in the boondocks!
i agree with ya totally. i have mine jacked up in my yard, i live in the country and its great.
Chris Barry
05-25-2006, 08:31 AM
Well, I live in the city in a nicer subdivision(everyone around me are doctors lawyers and computer geeks and I'm a mechanic, only one in the neighborhood) and I have a '78 in the drive with the entire front end off it parked next to a utility trailer with a tranny on it and on the other side is an old Citroen wagon that is painted urban camo and noboby has said a thing yet. And if they do, I'll tell 'em to "git off me land ya hosehead"
shakari
05-25-2006, 08:34 AM
With neighbours like that, I'd be inclined to go out and buy a few more barely legal old puddle jumpers and park 'em anywhere I could fit 'em - but always in a place to inconvenience the so & so's ......... but I can be an akward cuss on occasion............
rawdave
05-25-2006, 09:01 AM
That's what I like about South Georgia. If you don't have a car on blocks in the street, the DMV will issue you one...:D
chr1s
05-25-2006, 09:02 AM
funny thing is, Souderton IS the boonies, well, at least it used to be :(
710 Burner
05-25-2006, 09:32 AM
I guess I have a slightly different perspective than the rest of you fellas...
If they have plates, park it wherever you want. If it doesn't have plates, it belongs in the yard.
You must live in one of those areas where the plates follow the owner instead of the vehicle.
funny thing is, Souderton IS the boonies, well, at least it used to be :(
Depends how you classify "boonies". Maybe Foxworthy would say "if there are more than 3 pig packing plants within walking distance from your house... you might live in the boonies". Or "if you can see the beef rendering plant from your driveway... you might live in the boonies". I'm guilty on both accounts:eek:
Yup Souderton is 95% boonified... I just happen to live in one of the newer upity subdivisions.
I hate making waves with the neighbors. I think it'll be on the driveway tonight.
AZJ10
05-25-2006, 10:46 AM
I say make it legal and then go out and punch a few holes in the muffler and every Saturday morning fire it up and run it at a high idle for an hour or so.
Old Jeepy
05-25-2006, 11:09 AM
Everytime I read one of these threads I am more and more thankful that my neighbors are either cool or simply don't care. I have had my Rover project parked in my side yard for 4 months now--no plate/registration since it was a buyback from insurance--rearend up on jackstands(to do the brakes and fuel filter) drivers' fender sitting on my front porch(dent removal is almost done), front bumper in yard next to Rover, along with the safari rack, not to mention the rusty 79 Jeep parked next to it, or my motorcycle garage(the back porch). I guess since I keep the grass cut (and weedwack around the Rover) and wave when i see them, the neighbors have been cool.:)
Josey88
05-25-2006, 12:26 PM
The wife & I moved out to the country into a house where my nearest neighbors couldn't even been seen so we would avoid this problem. Then a year later, the bean fields sprouted realitor signs. That was when I moved both cornbinders up front, and my grandparents totalled out town car before and after I stripped it. I took my sweet time to. I wanted those "future homeowners" to know who they'll be living next to. Unfortunately, that didn't deter any of them, but I got my point accrossed after speaking to one set of them. Folks, I fall under the "I'm the one paying the mortgage" and if you can the "I was here first" group. I didn't have any say on what their homes should look like, so why should they be able to tell me how my yard looks like. I think it is great that you went back and played their game on them. Your aggresive defense hopefully will remind the old gal to think before she goes on another beautification project.
A wise old farmer told me, if you didn't want neighbors take a 4 x 8 sheet of plywood, and make it look real professional with
"FUTURE HOME OF (your name) HOG FARMS".
kahula
05-25-2006, 02:49 PM
If the vehicle is tagged, I have NO problem with it being parked on the street. But, if the vehicle does not have plates and it hasn't moved in a few months, I'd be pretty ticked off as well. .....
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i agree, but mine was in my driveway, i just hate living in the city...they can literally make a new city ordinance every month at the city hall meeting, it makes me sick.....
Crazy_Jeepman
05-25-2006, 05:20 PM
I went through the City against me War several times. I have done everything from painting a Number on the door to loading them up on a licensed trailer. I have used the 30 days to clean up the cars provision several times over. I have also covered up two wagoneers with Tarps, and had the city come and ask me what was under the tarps, I told them FIRE WOOD.....................I do not burn wood, they knew it, but never said a word. All is fair in love and war :rolleyes:
Well...I stopped in on my insurance agent on the way home from work. Turns out the annual premium is only $290. I told her to hook me up...then went home and renewed my registration online.
Here's what I've decided. I've always planned on moving the wag into the garage once my shop is built. I'm going to be seeing the local building inspector next week when he comes to sign off on the deck and shop. He's sure to ask what I'm doing with the wag. It's legal now...I've done my part. I'm going to tell him that when the neighbor calls again (surely they will)... he's to tell them it's legal and they should come and talk to me. I'm a nice enough guy. Maybe if they man-up...I'll do 'em right and move it in (was going to anyway). Really, I just want to know who I should be watching out for in the future (inspector said the report is confidential and he couldn't tell me who complained).
JeremySmith
05-25-2006, 09:34 PM
Nice! Now that its legal - give it a nice paint job. I'm thinking a camo pattern, but instead of the red OD/Brown/etc - use fluorescent green, yellow, and pink.
Justin Kerns
05-25-2006, 10:36 PM
I live in central Denver and there are tons of "abandoned" cars around here. But if I let a vehicle with expired or no tags sit on the street for 48 hours it'll get ticketed. Also, the local law here is that any vehicle on the street has to move at least 100 feet every 72 hours. Not enforced, except for the jackass that always calls on my J-10. My driver's rear tire is literally covered with wax marks. It pisses me off! It's a legal, running vehicle.
Oh well, if you don't like it move right? Well, I am. Moving further out to the burbs where, ironically, the HOA is more lenient than some lame neighbor of mine (identity protected by the cops of course) in my current hood.
jlewis
05-25-2006, 10:55 PM
Show me some pics!!!!!!!
Spectre
05-25-2006, 11:02 PM
i went thruthe same thing, but here in tx to get it registered/insured. tagged it HAS to be running, thats why i'm paying $2000 (so far due to being in a mechanics garage since late janurary. (he's also working in it intermmittenly when he gets the parts in)
I don't know who told you that. Here in Texas, inspection is not required for registration, unless your car was last owned by someone out of state, then an inspection is required before you can register it here. Inspection and registration are not linked here. You can register a bare chassis with no engine here.
Spock
05-26-2006, 12:00 AM
Haha well have any of you had FOUR neighbours team up on you? And assault you, and try to throw mud at you, and tell you every possible swear...
And I'm in the country!
710 Burner
05-26-2006, 06:55 AM
Haha well have any of you had FOUR neighbours team up on you? And assault you, and try to throw mud at you, and tell you every possible swear...
And I'm in the country!
You sound right popular.
Kahula, love your avatar.
475thFG
05-26-2006, 07:21 AM
Depends how you classify "boonies". Maybe Foxworthy would say "if there are more than 3 pig packing plants within walking distance from your house... you might live in the boonies". Or "if you can see the beef rendering plant from your driveway... you might live in the boonies". I'm guilty on both accounts:eek:
Yup Souderton is 95% boonified... I just happen to live in one of the newer upity subdivisions.
I hate making waves with the neighbors. I think it'll be on the driveway tonight.
I classify "Boonies" as a place where you can't see or hear ANY house or business from your home, and if you see more than 2 vehicles a day that don't belong to you (or a relative), you get the urge to say "Lotta traffic today". And if someone is complaining about how many vehicles you have parked in the yard (or pasture, as it were), whoever they complain to offers to arrest them for trespassing if they don't shut up and go away.
475thFG
05-26-2006, 07:29 AM
Haha well have any of you had FOUR neighbours team up on you? And assault you, and try to throw mud at you, and tell you every possible swear...
And I'm in the country!
Did any of them survive it? Because I can promise you, had they done that to me, you guys would've heard about it on the national news services. "Four attackers beaten senseless and shot dead by Missouri man with permit to carry concealed weapon".
I classify "Boonies" as a place where you can't see or hear ANY house or business from your home, and if you see more than 2 vehicles a day that don't belong to you (or a relative), you get the urge to say "Lotta traffic today". And if someone is complaining about how many vehicles you have parked in the yard (or pasture, as it were), whoever they complain to offers to arrest them for trespassing if they don't shut up and go away.
Oh...then I guess I'm city folk :D
Tahnka
05-26-2006, 12:46 PM
That's what I like about South Georgia. If you don't have a car on blocks in the street, the DMV will issue you one...:D
LOL!
I realize no one likes this type of response but I thought I'd throw it out, just in case. If you can determine who the "hater" is, then why not invite them over for dinner and make friends with them? Once they're friendly you can probably talk it out. If you start a war then you'll have nothing but war.
richard567
09-10-2007, 07:25 PM
If I lived closer, I’d bring both of mine to your house and park them in front just to make a statement. I have neighbors that started that with me, and with some help from my friend…… every other weekend they all come to my house and leave in the wife car to do our running around. LOL LOL LOL LOL. They don’t complain so much now. Good luck. Tag it and let it sit till it rust away…Jeep on..
:fsj: :thumbsup:
tndonor
09-10-2007, 08:51 PM
claim it is art and protected under the first ammendment. Call it the circle of my life or something. Call the ACLU and get them involved citing discrimination against your art and choice of vehicles:D . Put a tow bar on it and register it as a trailer????
Thats all I can think of at the moment.....
zmjeeps
09-10-2007, 09:33 PM
Really, I just want to know who I should be watching out for in the future (inspector said the report is confidential and he couldn't tell me who complained).
I went through similar BS when I first set up my warehouse with a parking lot out back. I'm zoned commerical, but back up to a residental neighborhood. Long story short, retired ahole with too much time on his hands turns me into the city. I get the notice and go to city hall. They say I have to 'clean it up'? I say 'clean up what?' I got the 'you know' line a couple of times and I finally said, if you don't tell me what's wrong, I can't fix it. So out come the pictures. Hmmm, let's see, you HAVE to be standing on the complaintants property, looking at my property to take the picture. Wasn't hard to figure out which neighbor it was...
Z.
jeeping1974
09-10-2007, 09:46 PM
Really, I just want to know who I should be watching out for in the future (inspector said the report is confidential and he couldn't tell me who complained).
now i'm not sure about the laws in your state, but here in NH that is a totally huge amount of F$*%ING B#LLS*%T! we have the right to ask who the accuser is and they have to tell us becuase we have the right to comfront them about it. i've had to deal with people calling the cops on my friends and i just for having our jeeps in the street and "causing a commotion". we asked who it was and we comfronted them. cop couldn't do anything to stop us either. we were nice and simply told the woman that if she had a problem with us, to act like an adult and come talk to us. thing was, it wasn't even a neighbor of mine. the lady lived 7 houses away and just happen to drive by the end of my street (i lived on a dead end with two other houses). heck all my neighbors loved to see our jeeps even though they were not jeep fans and they were always supportive and helped us out when we needed it. i got a call a few days back asking when i was bringing my jeep back over to my parents just so they can hear it running..... and i can't wait to do so. he he he.
i can't stand people like that. it just pisses me off to know that there are people out there that are willing to make other peoples lives harder just because they themselves don't "approve" of how we are or what we do. we don't do it to them.
sorry to rant, i get like that sometimes when people get treated unfairly.
Spock
09-10-2007, 10:41 PM
I think it's because they have their own problems in life and are inadequate somehow, so they have to point at others to boost their self esteem.
We have such crazy neighbours, they called our firewood about 15 cords worth, "a pile of crap". Wow, if there's ever an ice storm I hope you freeze to death.
Howard1964
09-10-2007, 11:10 PM
Well see...to get the neighbors to stop complaing...just mount a GAU-17 Minigun to the roof of your Jeep. Then sit behind it and glare at anyone who dares give you a second look:) Also, play the theme song from the terminator real loud.
Ahnold says..."we cant let those gurly mans beat us!!"
Bill Moore
09-11-2007, 05:32 AM
Alabama looks better every day, we get points for having over 5 cars on the lot!
mattmopar440
09-11-2007, 10:16 AM
heavy metel 81 has a neighbor like that every time where working on are jeep she come waddling here fat Great Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogley by with her little barking dogs then gose home and the police or the village calls even if its in the drive way but blocking the side walk she calls mostly because she takes up the whole thing when she walks down it :mad:
Scoot
09-11-2007, 09:02 PM
Can you get vehicle storage anywhere? Lot's of places here that you can park a car in a fenced yard for a nominal fee. My neighbors got a little edgy with my project stuff until they needed help with some home repair or auto problem. After that they didn't mind. I still try to keep it cool though, nothing out front without a motor, glass, no cobwebs, etc. . Seems like you should stash the car a few months until the heat dies down. If you have AAA they will tow it for free.
Redman
09-11-2007, 09:18 PM
in my neighborhood we are not allowed to park cars in the street period. DumbGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogleyes didn't think that it would make everyone with more than 2 cars in a household park in their yards, and now it looks worse than parking on the street.
P.S. if I felt like getting of my arse I would go take a pic of me Jeep parked in the side yard :D:D (my case is different though, Mines a Jeep:D)
ohioj20
09-12-2007, 12:18 PM
our newly formed city of New Franklin, Ohio is trying to pass this Nazi crap. Oh well, if a city garage can have junk trucks sitting around, I can too :) I got around this by having the Jeeps I'm parting out on my grandpa's farm, sucks though since I can't have air tools out there.
JeepNOFEAR
09-12-2007, 02:40 PM
Mine are painted camo so no one can see them anyway. :thumbsup: All my neighbors are real nice, but some new ones just moved in near us so we'll see.
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