little rockwell update.

[Desert Beast]

well its been a while since ive been on here. been busy w/ work and jeep.

not a whole lot done since last time, but i did sling the rear rock in and mounted the 2 rear tires.

front rockwell is almost ready to go in.

see stuka, im gettin rid of those toothpicks. :D

http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/42drvrs.JPG

http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/42pass.JPG

front axle almost ready to go in
http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/hydro/DSC01102.JPG

got my 203/205 all prettied up also

http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/203205.JPG

[funwheeling]

Sweet. I don't think my wife would let me do this to mine.

[bigun]

Sweet!! Waiting to see pics of it working. We have discussing going to 2.5s or mogs I like the idea of mogs but I can't afford them right now. Craig has a line on some of the old GMC 2.5s and one front top loader fairly cheap.

[Stuka]

Starting to look pretty bad ***! Out with the old and in with the beef :)

[mudslider]

thats tough looking, great job.

[rockjeep44]

Looks great. Are you keeping the leaf springs or have you just not had a chance to start the link suspension?

[orangecherokee]

looking tough DB. i would start the linking right now if you have the budget and time.

[Desert Beast]

ya ya, at this time the budget will not allow linking it. it will come soon enough, but im gonna run it w/ the leafs for now. there will be a traction bar and limit straps and bumps to make the leafs last as long as they can.

ive dropped enough $$$ on this thing at this point ive gotta get out there and start wheelin it soon.

when i come up on 5g's to link it, i will.

[83 BEAST]

man that thing is a beast!!! can't wait to see it all finished. great job so far!!! :D

[Stuka]

5 grand to link it up? That sounds kind of high. Granted I havent personally payed for doing 4 links front and rear, just seems like you could do it for like 1500 or so, all parts and materials included?

[KaiserMan]

Looking good.

I have to agree with Stuka, $5K seems pretty high.

[Desert Beast]

5 grand to link it up? That sounds kind of high. Granted I havent personally payed for doing 4 links front and rear, just seems like you could do it for like 1500 or so, all parts and materials included?

haha, not the way i would build it.

i would run coilovers (not coils) and 4 of those w/ springs would run about 2700.
heims about 2k
link material about 540
and thats just for the links, and shocks. thats not including the misc brackets and odds and ends that would have to be added in there.

ya it could be done cheaper w/ other materials but if your going to do it, why not do it right the first time.

ive wheeled w/ too many people that have build it on the cheap, and then had to spend more in the long run to get a setup that they like/will hold up to abuse.

so, ive got no beef w/ waiting for a little to do it right the first time.

but when i do it will be bad ***.

[Stuka]

Ahh yes, going coil overs does jack the price up a whole lot :)

[Thumpszilla]

Looks sweet but to rich for my blood.

[Rompn]

Looks good Garrett. So what are you going to do with those 38's now that you have the 42's?? ;)

[mark]

awesome!

[krek]

That thing rocks!

[Sambo]

wow garret nice work;)
btw what sized meats are ya running with those???
and brakes??

[Desert Beast]

thanks,

pat, the 38's are already spoken for (i think).

sambo, im runnin 42" iroks w/ pinion brakes.

[rustywagoneers_com]

looks like fun to me...
hard not to love rockwells...


side note... is that the 203 / 205 setup which does not require one of the new shafts? i thought i had heard about a version which had a longer adapter like that and kept one of the original input or outputs, but i may be remembering it all wrong...

peace
Dave

[Desert Beast]

looks like fun to me...
hard not to love rockwells...


side note... is that the 203 / 205 setup which does not require one of the new shafts? i thought i had heard about a version which had a longer adapter like that and kept one of the original input or outputs, but i may be remembering it all wrong...

peace
Dave

what shafts? im assuming drive shafts.

my set up is the shortest way to get the 203/205.

a 203 that was behind a th400 w/ the stock .5" adapter.
there are other ways to get the 203/205 but this way is the shortest. and w/ a 108" wheelbase i was starting to run out of rear dshaft length.

and this setup will need new front and rear dshafts.

[rustywagoneers_com]

no, not driveshafts..

i have been told that there is a new 203 / 205 doubler kit which does not replace either the input of the 205, or the output of the 203, i cannot remember the whole deal, it is a little longer than other 203 / 205 doubler rigs, it just saves a few bucks..

peace
Dave

[orangecherokee]

from what i've heard you can just send your original shaft to Wagoneer Machine Shop now ATOR and have it resplined for $60. pretty cheap if you ask me.

[rustywagoneers_com]

well, yes indeed, that is cheap... i may be all wet on the doubler thing... i saw the pic and thought i remembered someone telling me something about a 203 / 205 doubler that used an unmodified (input or output, cant recall)

anyway, end of doubler hijack...

are those re-centered H1 12 bolts?

peace
Dave

[Desert Beast]

well, yes indeed, that is cheap... i may be all wet on the doubler thing... i saw the pic and thought i remembered someone telling me something about a 203 / 205 doubler that used an unmodified (input or output, cant recall)

anyway, end of doubler hijack...

are those re-centered H1 12 bolts?

peace
Dave

the output of the 203 always has to be modified. it is shortened like 6 or 8 inches or so.

most of the kits these days come w/ a intermediate shaft w/ them.

the NWF doubler comes w/ a new billet intermediate shaft. not a weaker re-splined one.

and yes they are re centered 12 bolt h1 rims.

[Desert Beast]

got the front 1/2 way in.




http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/oldout.JPG

and got this giant hunk of s#!t in there :D no hubs on there yet.

http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/frontrock.JPG

and the rear.

http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/rearaxle.JPG

[Desert Beast]

so no more wussy axle cracks stuka ;)

[Stuka]

I dont know, I saw a truck the other day with 49's and 5 tons. Now thats beef :P

Looking good :)

[Desert Beast]

dont worry, if i ever need any more beef, ill go w/ the 2" 47spline shafts from Ouverson Engineering and Machine.

[bowtieman55]

dont worry, if i ever need any more beef, ill go w/ the 2" 47spline shafts from Ouverson Engineering and Machine.

:eek:-dayyum

[bigun]

dont worry, if i ever need any more beef, ill go w/ the 2" 47spline shafts from Ouverson Engineering and Machine. :eek: -dayyum Just think of this the reason these exist is somebody twisted a set of stockers up LOL!
here you can check them out for your self
http://ouversonengineering.com/

[scotty]

no, not driveshafts..

i have been told that there is a new 203 / 205 doubler kit which does not replace either the input of the 205, or the output of the 203, i cannot remember the whole deal, it is a little longer than other 203 / 205 doubler rigs, it just saves a few bucks..

peace
Dave

crazyjeepman built his own doubler using an uncut 203 output. he found a yoke that fit the splines and somehow modified the shaft for a nut or bolt to keep the yoke on. i think he made a plate that bolted to the range box and uses the stock tailsahft housing.

he runs a divorced 205 behind it. its in a truck,so hes got plenty of wheelbase ;)

was this maybe what you were thinkin of?

DB you not gonna paint your axles up all purdy and shiny before you bolt em down for good?

[blt2krl]

DB, that is looking very trick my friend. I love my doubler setup from NWF. What was your impression of the kit?

[Rompn]

Rig is looking good Garrett. Do you have the driveshafts already made?

[mudslider]

that is sweet DB. can wait to see it in action

[Slick Willie]

Man, your driveway looks way too much cleaner under your Wag. :mad:

[FSJeeper]

5 grand to link it up? That sounds kind of high. Granted I havent personally payed for doing 4 links front and rear, just seems like you could do it for like 1500 or so, all parts and materials included?

After conferring with Rockjeep44 late last year, I bought a competition buggy frame/links partially outfitted during the xmas holidays and picked it up in Utah. Got some of the receipts for the build.

Quality 1.25" heims, bought at cost, were over $1800. Tubing, plate, misc brackets, and other items for the frame were about $1,900. This is just the basic materials cost for the bare frame and links. I do not know how you could do it cheaper unless you downgraded to lesser materials and the must cheaper 3/4" heims.

$1,500 would not even be enough just to buy links.

When you put pencil to paper, to build a NEW everything buggy, you are looking for at least $20,000 to do it the right way. And if you start going with exotic axles, fancy FI crate motors, etc., you could get into the $40,000's very easy. That is building it yourself.

A buddy of mine has $72,000 in his, but it was all shop built and with the best of the best, he never got his hands dirty.

[Stuka]

Pascal: Yeah, after loooking into it more from when I made that post, it looks like 5k is about right on targe, and could even be higher.

[FSJeeper]

Pascal: Yeah, after loooking into it more from when I made that post, it looks like 5k is about right on targe, and could even be higher.

Not a cheap hobby if you build right. My solution was to buy a 1 season used buggy frame/links with a proven track record. Got it for just the price of the heims.

When I was thinking about having my old choptop project 4 linked with coils, a reputable fab shop specializing in this wanted $6,000 for the job.

[Desert Beast]

DB, that is looking very trick my friend. I love my doubler setup from NWF. What was your impression of the kit?

i was very impressed w/ the kit.

the fit and finish is supurb. i also got the 205 billet bearing retainers and those are trick.

i havent used it yet, i am fabing up some triple stick cable shifters for it as we speak.

overall i like the kit.

[Desert Beast]

Rig is looking good Garrett. Do you have the driveshafts already made?

no d-shafts yet, im machining the d-shaft end yokes now for the square tube.

[Desert Beast]

DB you not gonna paint your axles up all purdy and shiny before you bolt em down for good?]


nope, gonna run'em as is. have you ever tried to get that old military paint off of ****?

**** stuff is like 1/8" thick.

[Rompn]

no d-shafts yet, im machining the d-shaft end yokes now for the square tube.

Cool deal. So when do you hope for a maidan voyage? And where at?

[Desert Beast]

no exact date yet, but it will be in the not too distant future. a few months maybe.

very first will prabably be at the new offroad park in irvine (its pretty lame, just some hills and ruts) just for a shakedown run to make sure that everything is dialed in. then im goin to the hammers.

ill let you know when the time comes.

[Rompn]

no exact date yet, but it will be in the not too distant future. a few months maybe.

very first will prabably be at the new offroad park in irvine (its pretty lame, just some hills and ruts) just for a shakedown run to make sure that everything is dialed in. then im goin to the hammers.

ill let you know when the time comes.

Hell ya you let me know when the time comes. A 24 pack reserves my shotgun seat. :D

[Desert Beast]

got the front rock all squared away. and the other tires mounted.

http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/rockdone.JPG

http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/rockdone2.JPG

http://www.southbaycustoms.com/fullsizejeeps/buildup/rockwells/front.JPG

[Stuka]

That thing looks bad ***. Is there going to be enough room for a front pinion brake, looks close to the spring, although it may just be the angle I suppose.

So what do your neighbors say when they walk out of their house every morning and see that thing sitting there?

[DanHS]

Holy crap, that looks quite beastial. I bet the neighbors like watching it grow in your driveway. I like the pic with the rear axle and wheels/tires vs the front. Looks really good and stable too, I like it, it's the sort of thing I'd want to build. Got any plans for a front bumper/stinger bar setup or anything? Looks like it'll do a lot just on leaves, and you could always link the rear first and see how it does then.

[Rompn]

Holy Fock Nuts! That looks diguistingly sick!

[Desert Beast]

That thing looks bad ***. Is there going to be enough room for a front pinion brake, looks close to the spring, although it may just be the angle I suppose.

So what do your neighbors say when they walk out of their house every morning and see that thing sitting there?

ya it looks close but it will fit. i started to worry about that when i was lining it up. the rotor will clear the spring by about 1.5".

most of my neighbors think that its cool. im lucky here, my last neighbors were douchebags

[Desert Beast]

Holy crap, that looks quite beastial. I bet the neighbors like watching it grow in your driveway. I like the pic with the rear axle and wheels/tires vs the front. Looks really good and stable too, I like it, it's the sort of thing I'd want to build. Got any plans for a front bumper/stinger bar setup or anything? Looks like it'll do a lot just on leaves, and you could always link the rear first and see how it does then.

no plans for the front, other than making a winch mount for a m12000. im going to sink it back into the grill as far as i can go.

not a huge fan of the boner in sweat pants look, but i might try a stinger later.

[Sambo]

D@MIT man that is friggin kewl lookin:eek: :D