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Bob Barry
06-10-2002, 03:45 AM
Airing down for a quick trail-run this Saturday (good way to get the girls out of mom's hair for a morning), I noticed that my right-front wheel was MUCH hotter than any of the others. I figured a sticking caliper or maybe a wheel-bearing going south (been in quite a bit of water without repacking- I know, shame on me... :( )

Once I got the truck up on jackstands and pulled the front wheel, it became somewhat obvious what the problem might be when I pulled a chunk of brake-pad material out through the top of the caliper. After I compressed the caliper and pulled it off, I saw that the whole lining had come right off the backing on the inner pad, after fracturing around the rivets. The reduced braking effectiveness on the right side must have been why the truck pulled slightly to the left under braking. The corners of the inner-pad on the other side were also cracked off.

I also "grooved" a rear drum, probably from debris in the rivet holes (lesson learned; wash out brakes after mudding).

Now I've got a set of performance high-composite graphite/kevlar/titanium/whatever pads (the $28.99/pair kind) to go on there. At least the rotors were in good shape. The axle U-joints were moving a little too freely, so I also got new joints to make my old spares my good installed set, and take these out as spares for the trail.

But my real question would be what was causing this inner pad to break up like this? These were the really cheap kind of pads; do they just not last long? Maybe the thermal shock from hitting water after being heated up on the trail all day? Oddly enough, there wasn't any mud or debris in and around the pads, even though I've got the stock backing-plates in place. Maybe I should install some caliper-brackets that have had the dust-shield broken off? What's people's experience with this?

I originally thought the caliper was frozen, but it compressed easily and didn't look particularly grimy around the seal; I suppose it could still be the problem, but the truck did seem to have brakes on that side still.

Michael
06-10-2002, 04:32 AM
Bob....you get what you pay for with brakes. I went through two pairs of cheapo pads this year....now I am on the 30.00 pair ones like you have. They are great...Stop much better. The cheap ones cannot handle the heat at all. So they break up or intstead of normal wear they basically sometimes would crumble. At least that is what I have found. :D

Bob Barry
06-10-2002, 04:57 AM
Ah; good. These pads have been on there for nearly three years now, and aren't worn out much at all. I think they originally had a lifetime replacement warranty; only problem is that this kind of warranty on junk just gets you a lifetime supply of junk... :(

jeepbob
06-10-2002, 04:59 AM
Yup the heat thing is what causes cheap pads to break up. The size and wt of our rigs really requires the better quality pads. Also while the piston goes back easily, the caliper may have been stuck in the sliders.

[ June 10, 2002, 11:01 AM: Message edited by: jeepbob ]

RustyJeep
06-10-2002, 05:09 AM
I use ceramic pads on my vehicles. I can get a lifetime warrenty on them through work, and they actually do last a long, long time w/no brake dust. :D

Oracle
06-10-2002, 05:53 AM
Rusty, do the ceramics eat the rotors/drums like the metallics? I'm getting ready to order two sets, one for the Puppy and one for Blood, have you got a brand name?