View Full Version : Which suspension lift to lift with ? (or apples to oranges)
gearhead77
02-03-2004, 01:00 PM
I am ready to buy a lift kit, but I'm still not sure who's kit to buy. At first I was going to do it cheap with rusty's 4" add a leaf kit. That (thank you RB) turned into BJ's offroad's 4" system. Now I want to know from the people who run BJ's, Skyjacker, and others. Do BJ's springs taper? Have anti-friction pads? Hold up? Who has the low price (east coast) on Skyjacker?Other ideas?
Thank you all in advance.
Donnie Collins
'77 wagoneer narrow-trac
360/th400/dana300
and an eagle wagon,how's that for devotion LOL
Stuka
02-03-2004, 01:17 PM
I have rusty's springs, they flex great, and ride fine. Rusty now uses a different manufacter. BJ's uses the company that rusty's used to use, so they should be the same.
SkyJacker makes a sweet system (if you get the full system, not the kit). And gives closer to 5" or lift or so.
BJ's sells Rusty and BJ's lift kits.
youngjeeper
02-03-2004, 01:21 PM
actually, i herd that BJ's is now using the SAME company Rustys is CURRENTLY using..
Stuka
02-03-2004, 01:23 PM
ahh. i know the previous company that rusty's used had lots and lots of problems with bad product, which is why rusty's switched. Would seam like a good idea for BJ's to also switch.
Manhattan
02-03-2004, 10:21 PM
GearHead...
I started with stock springs (2.5 "negative lift") and went to Rough Country 3" springs. I recently switched to BJ's Offroad 4" system - springs, extended braided brakelines, drop-pitman arm & shocks.
I love the suspension. Tons of flex - but still drives great on the street. I've done Tellico once since the install and loved the springs. Last week I drove 1,200 miles on the highway - still love the springs... although I could use some new CDs smile.gif
Robber80
02-03-2004, 10:40 PM
wow i dont' think my jeep could drive 1200 miles
billyrb
02-03-2004, 10:48 PM
Gearhead, our springs taper and have anti-friction pads. Ride quality is very good. But, you should be aware that with any kit, the first few weeks will be a bit bouncy until the system settles in. Flexing the springs once or twice helps with that. Otherwise, I think you can't go wrong with most any lift. The Rough Country lift's are just that, rough (riding). The Skyjacker's are the top of the line, but carry an equally top-of-the-line price-tag. Our suspension systems are about 1/2 the cost of the skyjacker, and offer what I would call an equally comparable ride (but maybe I'm biased) ;)
I would recommend finding some folks on the forum that have the various lifts, and contact each of them. Find out what they like / dislike, and what they use their rig for 90% of the time. Then, evaluate what you want your rig to do, and how you will use it. Then look at which lift you want.
If you have any questions, whether it's related to our suspension systems or other kits (even if we don't carry them), just shoot me an email at ryan@bjsoffroad.com
J10Mike
02-04-2004, 12:51 AM
i have a 4 inch superlift....superstiff!!! at the time i purchased the lift, i was unaware that bj's existed. otherwise, i probably would have bought from them.
actually, after 8 months, the ride seems to have softened a little bit.
David Allen Racing
02-05-2004, 12:37 AM
We have sold the BDS kits for years, and they are top notch quality for the price. Plus you can't beat their lifetime warranty, that say "If you are the original purchaser of a BDS product and it breaks, they'll replace it." Plus they have a very good ride quality. Tapered spring, anti-friction pads, rubber bushings and they flex great. I sold a lot of these kits to members here several years ago, maybe some of those guys will pipe in as too how they like them.
Dave
Stuka
02-05-2004, 01:15 AM
I know JeepGuzi runs a BDS, and he seams to love it. Back when I bought mine, there wasnt as many choices. Rusty's had prety much just cae around with their 4" kit. I think I was the 2nd person to install a 4"from them.
turtlejoe
02-05-2004, 01:30 AM
I just put on the BDS 4" system with BDS shocks, stabilizer and drop pitman arm. So far so good, but it really hasn't been worked in yet. I love the "no fine print warranty" and am pleased to date with everything. I like the idea of rubber bushings in the springs since poly can be both harsh and noisy.
The system is not cheap, but I've been wanting this system for a number of years prior to BJ's arrival and couldn't break away from my original thoughts. The warranty alone is worth it to me, and the supplier I bought it from is 5 miles from the house and always keeps at least one FSJ system in stock (they're a wholesaler).
Just my $.02. ;) (Check my sig for the "Lifted!" pic's)
Matty
02-05-2004, 06:21 AM
shackle flip & 44044s up front, set of BJ's springs in the rear
Knucklehead
02-05-2004, 07:14 AM
Ok, here is a little different question (not to hijack the thread).
I want a lift, SOA or springs 4-7" (don't care). I do some wheelin but not a lot. Mainly to get to a remote climbing locations up in the hills and it can get a little "challenging". BUT, I also will put ~3000 lb of rock in the bed and haul it 10 miles. This is for a J10. I don't want a spring that will "squat" a lot under weight.
Right now I have a "homemade" add a leaf lift of about 1 1/2" using spring leafs from a chevy truck. They run from eye to eye and are very stiff.
Any suggestions.
FSJ Thing
02-05-2004, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by 66HD:
Ok, here is a little different question (not to hijack the thread).
I want a lift, SOA or springs 4-7" (don't care). I do some wheelin but not a lot. Mainly to get to a remote climbing locations up in the hills and it can get a little "challenging". BUT, I also will put ~3000 lb of rock in the bed and haul it 10 miles. This is for a J10. I don't want a spring that will "squat" a lot under weight.
Right now I have a "homemade" add a leaf lift of about 1 1/2" using spring leafs from a chevy truck. They run from eye to eye and are very stiff.
Any suggestions.Air bags from JC whitney. Deflate to wheel, inflate to haul. I don't remember the exact price, but I think about $150 for a good set. With alot of lift, I have seen a custom set up that is essentially two air bags stacked up, and I've also seen custom drop mounts for the bags. Just my $0.02
Knucklehead
02-06-2004, 01:48 AM
Don't like air bags. want to stay with springs for suspenion.
dnixon
02-06-2004, 02:20 AM
I think you wouldn't have to use JUST air bags it would be air bag helper springs.. So you would have your springs and then ontop of the springs you would have the air bag.. So you would inflate the bag just when you needed to carry some loads otherwise you would leave it deflated and not have such stiffass ride.. Thats about as dual purpose as you can make it...
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