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stephen43
08-13-2003, 11:09 AM
has anyone used one? experiences? for around 300 bucks for a locker that I can install myself, it sounds too good to be true. Also, if anyone has one for a d60 they want to sell, let me know.

Stuka
08-13-2003, 11:17 AM
The "lunch box" lockers are not nearly as strong as a locker that includes the carrier. Yes its easy to install, and cost less, but wont last. A detroit locker will last forever almost. You really dont need to worry about breaking it.

Although i wouldent mind one in the front, as the front sees less stress then the rear.

J10/J20 Project
08-13-2003, 11:39 AM
Do they make one for the semi floating rear? I know a couple people that have them I think there a great locker for the front. These are in XJ's auto hubs. I have an EZ-locker in the front of my XJ I love it. Like Stuka said there is a lot of weight with our rigs so I would go with a locker that also upgrades the carrier for the rear.

Paul

[ August 13, 2003, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: J10/J20 Project ]

rockjeep44
08-13-2003, 02:06 PM
Every guy in my club that runs those or something similiar (ie ez locker or quicklok) has broken them. The guy with the red 4 runner has broken 4 over a period of a few years (granted his a crazy sumGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley MoogleyGreat Googley Moogley), and another guy with a fullsize bronco has broken one. The 4 Runner dude finally said screw it and welded his junk front and rear and hasn't looked back. With a rig as heavy as ours I'd go full locker.
-Andrew

jode
08-14-2003, 04:20 AM
I know a guy in UT with a FS Chero that runs them F&R. I have seen some carzy pics of his rig in Moab, and of his rig climbing up a vertical wall a few feet with the front tire...(who needs an RTI ramp :D )
He claims to have never had a problem with them.

As for the install, yes, it is pretty easy.

My bro ones one in the F of an XJ on 32s and has had no probs with it yet (just busted U-joints)

U.P.'er J-20
08-14-2003, 04:59 AM
I put a power trax no slip locker in the rear of my dads F-150, he paid almost $400 for it and it didnt last him 6 months and he never beats his rig. I have a Lock Rite in the front of my j20 and i broke the shear pins in it once cause i was to cheap to buy quality axle joints but once i upgraded my axle joints i dont (knock on wood) break shafts anymore, i guess it has more to do with your driving style than anything

Horny Toad
08-14-2003, 05:30 AM
I have a Detriot EZ Locker in the rear of mine and my dad & my bro-law has them front and rear in their CJ's. We have had them for about 3 years with no problems. We have been to Tellico & usually hit Uwharrie twice a month, so we are pretty hard on them. I would recommend them to any body.

Plus, you can get them anywhere from $240-$300.

HT

Heimeken
08-14-2003, 05:52 AM
It depends on the type of wheeling you plan to do. I have had two, first in the M20 and now in the Dana 60. Haven't broken one yet but I don't do xtreme stuff, just hard stuff. It's a good starter locker and good for the $$$. If you break one you should realize a step up.

BTW the D60 version is hard to find.

Stuka
08-14-2003, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by Heimeken:
BTW the D60 version is hard to find.That because most people who need a D60 also want a strong locker smile.gif Although I am sure the D60 version is a lot stronger, being the carrier is way bigger.

stephen43
08-14-2003, 06:39 AM
So im guessing this isnt the locker I want. can you recommend any other ones out there? Is it possible to install a detroit locker by myself? thanks
I also got a new pic of the truck w/ durabak in the bed and on the bumpers in my sig. cant really see it but you get the idea. smile.gif

Rockwagon
08-14-2003, 09:24 AM
I would run it if I was going to spend any money on a locker. A friend of mine is running a lockright in the front of a FSCH$VY with tons, 203-205 doubler, 44" swampers, built 400 small block, and not to mention it wieghs well over 6,000#. He has broken stock U-joints 35 spline stubs, and warn hubs during this time but not the lockright.

jode
08-14-2003, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by stephen43:
Is it possible to install a detroit locker by myself? Yes, but judging by the fact that you have to ask this question, I'm going to say that, for you, the answer is "no."

The difference between an "ez locker" and a detroit or "full carrier" locker is that with the detroit, you actually pull the entire carrier assembly (where the Ez style lets you leave the ring gear and carrier in place). So what that means is that you will need to have the proper tools (and knowhow) for setting up gears if you want to do the detroit style by yourself.

Stuka
08-14-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Rockwagon:
I would run it if I was going to spend any money on a locker. A friend of mine is running a lockright in the front of a FSCH$VY with tons, 203-205 doubler, 44" swampers, built 400 small block, and not to mention it wieghs well over 6,000#. He has broken stock U-joints 35 spline stubs, and warn hubs during this time but not the lockright.The D44 lockrite is TINY compaired to a 1 ton axle lockrite. I know the ones for D35's break really easy. I guess I depends on your driving style.

A detroit is the strongest automatic locker made. But it requires setting up the R&P to install. And you can do it yourself if you have all the tools and know-how.

If you on a budget, get the loc-rite, just dont put big tires on and expect to abuse it without breaking it.

Subconscious
08-14-2003, 02:08 PM
I had one in the rear Dana 35 of a '99 TJ. I removed it 10K miles later, and it showed excessive wear on the teeth. I estimate it was halfway through its operational life, if I was lucky. And those 10K were 99% on-road. It worked well and was easy to install, but they've got a clear durability issue. My next locker will be a selectable locker, either an ARB or an OX locker.

[ August 14, 2003, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Subconscious ]

fulsizjeep
08-15-2003, 12:37 AM
I have a D44 Lockright in the back of my 88 GW. It is one of the best upgrades I have opted for. It makes a ratcheting sound when the torque is off the wheels going thru turns. That is normal. The kit does not come with a hardened center pin and I put one in mine with 3.73 gears. If you use the stock pin, you are asking for trouble. It has been to Moab a couple times and on the rocks around the 4 Corners a good bit. No problems so far after 18 months. I say it is a good buy.

Manhattan
08-17-2003, 02:48 PM
I have a LockRight in my 88 GW (D44 with 3.73s). I've wheeled many times and it's been the best upgrade I've done to Bushwood (is this sounding like the previous post?).

But... I have had 31 ATs. and just went to 32 MTs. We'll see how it holds up.

Of course a Detroit is stronger than a LockRight. A Detroit will survive between 44 Boggers and a 600 HP motor. That's great. But my GW makes a whopping 140 HP and maybe 220 ft/lbs of torque. Combine that with tiny tires, an automatic transmission (easier on parts), sober/grown-up use of throttle and the Detroit starts to seem like a huge overkill. Sure, if they were the same price and same level of installation... but they're not... I love my little LockRight. smile.gif

bigblack'74
08-22-2003, 11:03 AM
both my old roomate and my buddy broke e-z lockers in wranglers in less than several months..i feel they are junk..they didnt even wheel them hard..just my 2 cents

jode
08-24-2003, 05:15 PM
That's cuz wranglers suck tongue.gif

Seriously though...seems like people who stick em in D35s run into trouble. Maybe, the axletube flex on those lame 35s are what cause the premature failure. What other axle bends to easy as a 35? And you know that any flex would cause bad things to happen to the locker.

Or maybe, the locker breaks to protest it's installation into a Wrangler redface.gif

Stuka
08-25-2003, 01:27 AM
Well a D35 has a muchh smaller carrier, meaning thelocker itself has to be much smaller.. In say a D60, the locker can be quite large as the carrier has lots of room in it.

dnixon
08-25-2003, 04:55 AM
Hey guy a new entry into the EZ-locker, Loc-Rite market is the Aussie Locker coming out of Australia. It can be found at www.offroadlockers.com (http://www.offroadlockers.com) Its supposed to be like one of those Loc Rites, but much better quality. And its only 199.00 so a little cheaper....

J10Mike
08-25-2003, 06:28 AM
i just looked over the aussie locker website. the price is right. i just wonder if it would turn out to be "you get what you pay for".

jode
08-25-2003, 10:32 AM
Only 1 way 2 find out :cool:

Stolen76
08-25-2003, 01:59 PM
has anyone run an Aussie locker yet ? I saw their ad in a 4 wheel mag a couple of months ago, been waiting to hear from one of you hard wheelin guys that tried it.

Stuka
08-25-2003, 02:22 PM
tell ya what, 20 of you donate 10 bucks and i will buy one, and test it then write up a nice report smile.gif

Heimeken
08-25-2003, 02:33 PM
I have pics:

Here's the M20 version
http://home.elp.rr.com/bela/AMC20_Lockright_low.jpg

And here's the Dana 60
http://home.elp.rr.com/bela/D60_Lockright.jpg

fulsizjeep
08-28-2003, 11:09 PM
Sweet Heimeken! Wish I had taken pix on my rebuild. I don't care what folks say about these, they work good in a D44. Mine is well used and no complaints.

kodiak1232003
10-10-2005, 07:27 PM
i have heard only good things about the aussie locker..and that is from the crazy mofo's over on pirate4x4.com....

if those guys and gals give somethin the thumbs up...i would take that as gospel...

.02 for ya

regards
brian

jaybird
10-11-2005, 12:02 AM
alot of the durability issues i've heard about come back to 2 things, improper setup ( even though it is a lunchbox locker, ya still gotta check clearances ) or just plain tryin' to break it! It wasn't made to turn 44's on a dana 35 with a v-8

shredby4
10-11-2005, 07:02 AM
That's not all. The fact is too many people drive like idiots. That's 90% of breaking one. My friend has broken 2 driveshafts,3...count 'em 3...Moser 1 piece axles in his CJ-7 and not toasted his Lock Right yet. However, he broke a Superwinch hub and shattered his front locker... So take that for what it's worth. People just need to be mindful that they aren't intended for huge tires or huge power. Plus, since they are self installed, there's no accounting for how many of the complaining owners screwed up during installation.

Michael
10-11-2005, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Stuka:
The "lunch box" lockers are not nearly as strong as a locker that includes the carrier. Yes its easy to install, and cost less, but wont last. A detroit locker will last forever almost. You really dont need to worry about breaking it.

Although i wouldent mind one in the front, as the front sees less stress then the rear.Not sure. I have on one weekend with my lockright, bent my frame and bent an axle shaft from pounding the heck out of it on granite. I say they will do what you need them to do. I have not had any problems with mine either. My weak point is the 44's.

Tell me your "personal" experience Stuka with these.

[ October 11, 2005, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: Michael ]

Chris Barry
10-11-2005, 01:05 PM
got a friend that has done the Rubicon and moab several times a year for the last few years with a lock rite in the rear and a power trax in front. Never had any problems

Sgt Rock
10-11-2005, 05:05 PM
Say, I just so happen to run a Aussie in the rear of my d44, with 35's. I am off wheeling at least 1 time per week. I would say I am not hard on my truck, but run it serious, whatever gets in my way on the trail. It has worked flawless and without complaint. You can see I have some serious torque going to it as well. I highly recommend it and it is 'easy' to install, and inexpensive.
I have had many miles of off roading on it, have any questions, let me know.

Sgt Rock

J10Mike
10-12-2005, 02:17 AM
Wow...this is an old thread going back before I installed my Aussie Locker.
I would have to agree with the good Sgt. My Aussie installed relatively easy and has functioned very well in the M20 with 35s.
But, since I swapped in J20 axles, I went to a full Detroit locker in the D60.

will e
10-12-2005, 06:15 AM
I have an aussie up front with my PT TC. It works great. I have a low torque engine and off road with finesse.

Chris Barry
10-13-2005, 05:16 AM
Aussie locker has a two year warranty and I think the Lock Rite has a lifetime no questions asked warranty.